All's Fehr in Love and War (CBA & Lockout Discussion) - Part VII

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Fehr: ''improvement in some aspects, in others...not sure.''

 

[WayneSid9987]

Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC

Fehr: still things we have to wade through, still have much to learn about NHL offer

 

[colchar]

I don't have time to read through all of the posts and links (I hate it when real life gets in the way of surfing the web!) so can anybody tell me how quickly the NHL wants to get to the 50/50 split? Is it immediately? Over two years? What?

Thanks to whomever answers.

 

[WaveRaven]

Aaron Ward Aaron Ward ‏@aaronward_nhl

NHLPA has called a 5 PM (Eastern) conference call for the Executive Board and the Negotiating Committee. #TSN


...is that good or bad?

That's good it means they have not outright rejected it.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Hmmm

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger
NHL intends on calculating lost salary in getting to 50-50 and will pay the players back over time.

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger
The payback to the players would occur over the balance of their contracts.

I guess this is escrow related.

 

[Orca Smash]

Just basically saying they have alot to look at, and discuss and will get back together with them tomorrow?

Not in a position to make any comments beyond also wanting to reach an agreement, but he needs to talk to the players about it, and take a closer look.

 

[Mike Jones]

Michael Grange ‏@michaelgrange

Key move by #NHL ... League needed to take chance to get process moving. 50/50 with salaries preserved puts ball in players court. #NHLPA

I don't think Fehr can reject this right off the bat.
He'll say we're gonna take a look at it.

I think this will be his reaction. While he cannot reject it outright (As others have said - it would be absolutely off the grid stupid) he does have the right to say that the players should have a closer look.

 

[KINGS17]

Don Ferh to address media in next 15 min folks! as per Pierre LeBrun's twitter

Is he going to piss in Bettman's coffee, or fold his hand?

Maybe he plays with his chips for a while before raising?

 

[Uemoda]

at the very least... give the players a chance to vote.

That's my hope.


I still have a very negative vibe going on right now. I'm wary that if the PA rejects it, all will be lost.

 

[ColePens]

Owners did a great job of throwing the ball at the PA. With the PA all about saying the owners aren't willing to work.... this is a gutsy offer. The average fan will scream it's fair and it's all on the players now.

Interesting psychological play....

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Fehr not saying much.

Oh, now saying 50/50 = very large escrow.

 

[falconski]

Dreger's trying to explain the lost salary protection thing, but I'm not getting it, can someone explain it to me like I'm 5?

 

[Mike Jones]

Fehr: ''improvement in some aspects, in others...not sure.''

Yeah - but he has to say that to save face. It's better than tossing it on the floor and stomping all over it.

 

[Casper]

Hmmm

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger
NHL intends on calculating lost salary in getting to 50-50 and will pay the players back over time.

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger
The payback to the players would occur over the balance of their contracts.

I guess this is escrow related.

interesting. It may work depending on how they plan on paying the players back.

 

[cheswick]

I don't have time to read through all of the posts and links (I hate it when real life gets in the way of surfing the web!) so can anybody tell me how quickly the NHL wants to get to the 50/50 split? Is it immediately? Over two years? What?

Thanks to whomever answers.

immedeatly to 50-50 and syat at 50-50. Mechanism in place to address players lost salary due to escrow in year one. Spreading it out over term of deal..

 

[CanadianHockey]

Dreger's trying to explain the lost salary protection thing, but I'm not getting it, can someone explain it to me like I'm 5?

Players contracts are 'restructured' to be more even year-to-year or backloaded.

 

[MaskedSonja]

Fehr: ''improvement in some aspects, in others...not sure.''

Don't like that language-"improvements" in SOME areas?

I realize you don't outright anything, just say "we'll look at it", but I hope this is just posturing, because I think if the players refuse this-they aren't going to see anything like it again, and the fans will be furious.

 

[Mike Jones]

Owners did a great job of throwing the ball at the PA. With the PA all about saying the owners aren't willing to work.... this is a gutsy offer. The average fan will scream it's fair and it's all on the players now.

Interesting psychological play....

From what I've read of this offer it does represent a serious shift on the NHL side. I'm really curious - what was that one thing changing the owners' minds?

 

[SeriousHabs]

we're STILL going to have an 82 game season one month later? So that means the Kings play like 20 games on the road in a row in February

We can't have that. Might as well just cancel the season.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Fehr: Their proposal is at least a 6 year deal.

And he's gone.

 

[ColePens]

From what I've read of this offer it does represent a serious shift on the NHL side. I'm really curious - what was that one thing changing the owners' minds?

Probably not making revenue again this year.

 

[Morris Wanchuk]

From what I've read of this offer it does represent a serious shift on the NHL side. I'm really curious - what was that one thing changing the owners' minds?

The ability to still play 82 games?

Seems like THAT window is closing

 

[falconski]

Players contracts are 'restructured' to be more even or backloaded.

ok, that makes sense...not sure how much the players will like it, but at least it's a creative way to deal with it without completely taking it via escrow

 

[CanadianHockey]

From what I've read of this offer it does represent a serious shift on the NHL side. I'm really curious - what was that one thing changing the owners' minds?

Advertisers/corporate sponsors complaining, probably. TV contracts get paid regardless of the lockout, for example.

 

[ColePens]

Limit folks... gotta lock and move to a new thread.