All time worst records in the OHL?

[MJ5]

I was trying to find some history but I can't.

Anyone know where I could find that info?

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[OHLFan90]

I was trying to find some history but I can't.

Anyone know where I could find that info?

I think if you google worst records in ohl history you might get some newspaper clippings.

I know London and Don Cherrys Mississauga are high up on the lists.

 

[ChurchOfAlfie]

1995-96 London Knights. 3-60-3.

The Longest Season: The London Knights - Sportsnet.ca

 

[EvenSteven]

And wouldn't you know it one of those three wins was vs Kitchener. IIRC, What's significant about that win was that the Rangers needed the win to qualify to bid on the hosting duties for the 1996 Memorial Cup. That year, the top two records in each division after the halfway point of the season would qualify to bid.

We Ranger fans thought it was a tap in. The Knights had other ideas.

 

[Hammer9001]

The Hamilton Dukes being the only team I'm aware of who willingly abandoned their Memorial cup spot due to performance. I suppose that franchise simply was no longer meant to be, as frequently is the case when a team packs up from Toronto and moves into Hamilton.

 

[EvenSteven]

The Hamilton Dukes being the only team I'm aware of who willingly abandoned their Memorial cup spot due to performance. I suppose that franchise simply was no longer meant to be, as frequently is the case when a team packs up from Toronto and moves into Hamilton.

The 1990 Memorial Cup in Hamilton was the first in a long line of Memorial Cup money grabs. That team had no business being named as host. But in all honesty, it was the building that was actually awarded that Memorial Cup, not the team.

All in the name of the almighty dollar.

 

[Tarantula]

Mississauga IceDogs

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3

56

7

2

15

157

380

1139

2,616

Rick Vaive

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

2000/2001 season.

 

[Hammer9001]

The 1990 Memorial Cup in Hamilton was the first in a long line of Memorial Cup money grabs. That team had no business being named as host. But in all honesty, it was the building that was actually awarded that Memorial Cup, not the team.

All in the name of the almighty dollar.

I agree, and I'm sure money was a motivating factor yes BUT lets also accept that despite there, there was/is plenty of merit to having the game in Hamilton on the occasion apart from the size of the venue.

For one, at the time the building was still fairly new at the time, any usually any new venue is somewhere a league wants to go and showcase at some point.

Second, apart from Guelph, Hamilton has to lowest total average driving time from every other OHL market (as it stands today, and may have been the case back then). Hamilton's location alone is a huge benefit to drawing outside fans in for a memorial cup.

Third, it's also serviced by an International Airport of its and is also not far from Pearson/Toronto to benefit travelling fans

Fourth, it also was the logic at the time that any new team to get a memorial cup in short order to deal with finances and draw interest back then, unlike today where a host typically is expected to run a festival/make the experience as great as possible and be more then just the big game.

Fifth, Hamilton also has a military presence and history for the Memorial Cup. The James St Armory is just over half a KM away from the venue. The city is also the home of the Royal Hamilton Light infantry, the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders and being the former home of the No119 (Tiger) Squadron of the Air Force. It's also a stone throw away from Stoney Creek, which was the site of a key battle in the War of 1812 and marked the limit of US's incursion into Canada.

However, lets get back on topic though. Has any other team bowed out of hosting a Memorial Cup due to performance issues?

 

[EON]

Erie in 2011-2012 was miserable but I doubt anything "tops" that Knights team.

 

[Savard18]

1995-96 London Knights 3-60-3
1996-97 London Knights 13-51-2
1997-98 tie North Bay Centenniels 15-41-6-4
Toronto St. Michaels 15-41-9-1
1998-99 Mississauga Ice Dogs 4-56-3-5
1999-00 Mississauga Ice Dogs 9-56-1-2
2000-01 Mississauga Ice Dogs 3-56-7-2
2001-02 Mississauga Ice Dogs 11-47-6-4
2002-03 Saginaw Spirit 11-45-5-7
2003-04 Belleville Bulls 15-44-8-1
2004-05 Oshawa Generals 15-48-3-2
2005-06 Sarnia Sting 17-46-2-3
2006-07 Erie Otters 15-50-1-2
2007-08 Sudbury Wolves 17-46-2-3
2008-09 Kingston Frontenacs 18-40-6-4
2009-10 Sarnia Sting 17-46-3-2
2010-11 Barrie Colts 15-49-2-2
2011-12 Erie Otters 10-52-3-3
2012-13 Ottawa 67's 16-46-0-6
2013-14 Sarnia Sting 17-44-2-5
2014-15 Sudbury Wolves 12-54-1-1
2015-16 Guelph Storm 13-49-4-2
2016-17 Barrie Colts 17-44-6-1
2017-18 Sudbury Wolves 17-42-9-0

I just looked at least wins, not least points. As bad as that London team was, the Missy Ice Dogs put together a much more impressive streak. There are a few other franchises that spent time near the bottom for a few years but didn't consistently finish last.

 

[battfan888]

The 1991-92 Guelph Storm would be near the top of this worst of list finishing 4-51-11

But yeah single worst season is the 1995-96 Knights at 3-60-3

 

[tony d]

The 1996 Knights get this. Hard to believe that team, a model of consistency now, could have been so poor at 1 time.

 

[Savard18]

Yeah but having to be a STH for the Missy Ice Dogs and having to endure a 3 win season after sitting through 4 and 9 win seasons the previous two seasons might be the hardest.

 

[Purple Phart]

I believe that the only lifetime suspension ever handed out went to the Erie Otters player Mike Liambus for the hit on Ranger player Ben Fanelli.
Back a season or so ago, Ben Fanelli was reportedly working on becoming an OHL on-ice official. Has there been any further report as to his success in this endeavour ?

 

[Tarantula]

Yeah but having to be a STH for the Missy Ice Dogs and having to endure a 3 win season after sitting through 4 and 9 win seasons the previous two seasons might be the hardest.

Before my time but frankly the O has had some goofy situations here from the get go. Essentially the third franchise here now.

 

[three dog night]

I agree, and I'm sure money was a motivating factor yes BUT lets also accept that despite there, there was/is plenty of merit to having the game in Hamilton on the occasion apart from the size of the venue.

For one, at the time the building was still fairly new at the time, any usually any new venue is somewhere a league wants to go and showcase at some point.

Second, apart from Guelph, Hamilton has to lowest total average driving time from every other OHL market (as it stands today, and may have been the case back then). Hamilton's location alone is a huge benefit to drawing outside fans in for a memorial cup.

Third, it's also serviced by an International Airport of its and is also not far from Pearson/Toronto to benefit travelling fans

Fourth, it also was the logic at the time that any new team to get a memorial cup in short order to deal with finances and draw interest back then, unlike today where a host typically is expected to run a festival/make the experience as great as possible and be more then just the big game.

Fifth, Hamilton also has a military presence and history for the Memorial Cup. The James St Armory is just over half a KM away from the venue. The city is also the home of the Royal Hamilton Light infantry, the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders and being the former home of the No119 (Tiger) Squadron of the Air Force. It's also a stone throw away from Stoney Creek, which was the site of a key battle in the War of 1812 and marked the limit of US's incursion into Canada.

However, lets get back on topic though. Has any other team bowed out of hosting a Memorial Cup due to performance issues?

And a classic final this so far the only Memorial Cup tournament final I have attended great time.

 

[bcspragu]

I believe that the only lifetime suspension ever handed out went to the Erie Otters player Mike Liambus for the hit on Ranger player Ben Fanelli.
Back a season or so ago, Ben Fanelli was reportedly working on becoming an OHL on-ice official. Has there been any further report as to his success in this endeavour ?

For accuracy sake Liambas's suspension wasnt exactly lifetime. It was for the remainder of the season (I think close to 30 games). Seeing as he was an overeager ut effectively ended his ohl career but had he been younger he would have been eligable to return.

As for Ben, not sure on the reffing thing but he has been doing a bunch of work in the concussion and sports sector and has a pretty good podcast taking about brain injury and mental health. If you want to give it a listen check out the episode with current spirit head coach troy smith. Talks about the incident quite a bit since smitty was an assistant on that team.

 

[Lycanthrope]

The 1990 Memorial Cup in Hamilton was the first in a long line of Memorial Cup money grabs. That team had no business being named as host. But in all honesty, it was the building that was actually awarded that Memorial Cup, not the team.

All in the name of the almighty dollar.

Ah memories. Weren’t they actually called the Dukes of Hamilton?

 

[Lycanthrope]

And a classic final this so far the only Memorial Cup tournament final I have attended great time.

Oh three dog, so I see you have a few whiskers to shave too By the way I wonder how many people get your moniker.

 

[Lycanthrope]

The 1996 Knights get this. Hard to believe that team, a model of consistency now, could have been so poor at 1 time.

I remember clearly they were nothing special until the Hunters stepped in. Neither was Windsor till they got their new rink. Seems a new building can be a catalyst for change. Hoping it will be for the Wolves.

 

[Texcanuck]

1995-96 London Knights 3-60-3
1996-97 London Knights 13-51-2
1997-98 tie North Bay Centenniels 15-41-6-4
Toronto St. Michaels 15-41-9-1
1998-99 Mississauga Ice Dogs 4-56-3-5
1999-00 Mississauga Ice Dogs 9-56-1-2
2000-01 Mississauga Ice Dogs 3-56-7-2
2001-02 Mississauga Ice Dogs 11-47-6-4
2002-03 Saginaw Spirit 11-45-5-7
2003-04 Belleville Bulls 15-44-8-1
2004-05 Oshawa Generals 15-48-3-2
2005-06 Sarnia Sting 17-46-2-3
2006-07 Erie Otters 15-50-1-2
2007-08 Sudbury Wolves 17-46-2-3
2008-09 Kingston Frontenacs 18-40-6-4
2009-10 Sarnia Sting 17-46-3-2
2010-11 Barrie Colts 15-49-2-2
2011-12 Erie Otters 10-52-3-3
2012-13 Ottawa 67's 16-46-0-6
2013-14 Sarnia Sting 17-44-2-5
2014-15 Sudbury Wolves 12-54-1-1
2015-16 Guelph Storm 13-49-4-2
2016-17 Barrie Colts 17-44-6-1
2017-18 Sudbury Wolves 17-42-9-0

I just looked at least wins, not least points. As bad as that London team was, the Missy Ice Dogs put together a much more impressive streak. There are a few other franchises that spent time near the bottom for a few years but didn't consistently finish last.

Nice data dig Savard. It was a good read.
Good luck to your Firebirds. I think you’ll be off the losing express soon. Likely the dreaded morning game vs Sting.

 

[OMG67]

1995-96 London Knights. 3-60-3.

The Longest Season: The London Knights - Sportsnet.ca

I remember I was in London at the old Ice House that year for a 67’s road trip to open the season. I can’t remember if it was the first week or second but it was really early.

I was talking to a long time season ticket holder that game and he actually said to me that the team will not win five games. I laughed and said that that was very exaggerated. Of course they’d win at least five games.

HE WAS RIGHT!

 

[OHLTG]

I believe that the only lifetime suspension ever handed out went to the Erie Otters player Mike Liambus for the hit on Ranger player Ben Fanelli.
Back a season or so ago, Ben Fanelli was reportedly working on becoming an OHL on-ice official. Has there been any further report as to his success in this endeavour ?

Jeff Kugel was banned from the OHL for life and suspended for 25 CHL games.

Fanelli is now an Asst Coach with the Waterloo Warriors hockey team.

 

[BigBuck]

Jeff Kugel was banned from the OHL for life and suspended for 25 CHL games.

Fanelli is now an Asst Coach with the Waterloo Warriors hockey team.

Don't forget Marc Laforge...Laforge attacked eight different Platers while they were involved in other fights, and he was also accused of driving Plater goaltender Andy Helmuth's head into the ice. Laforge was given a two-year suspension from the league (the equivalent of a lifetime ban for a 19-year-old in a league with an age limit of 21) for his actions, ending his career as a junior player.[

 

[SeniorJuniorFan]

Re: 1995-96 London 3-60-3

Does anyone know who the 3 victims were? Wins 2 and 3 were KIT and WSR, New Year’s Day and about 2 months later. But the first one resonates with me. About mid-Nov. when the London winless streak was really becoming a thing, North Bay fans were witnessing a fairly pathetic team as well, one which was on the way to a 35 point season.

At that time I had a look ahead at the upcoming schedule and noted the following 3 factors which prompted me to contact a good friend of mine and predict the first win of the Knights’ season vs. NB:
1) North Bay Centennials had a poor team; and
2) They played the last game before the Christmas break on the road in London; and
3) This game was the 3rd in 3, all on the road.

Result LDN 5 NB 3 with Centennials leading 3-2 after 2. As someone once said "you can look it up". Sportsnet ran an article 5/6 years ago on the London season.