All-Time International Teams

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  1. sapinvert

    sapinvert Registered User

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    Both Provost and Cournoyer are on the 1960's Habs team as right wingers... and I think Cournoyer deserves the first spot. As for Cammalleri, his longevity in Montreal (only 2 seasons 1/2) is the primary reason why he was left out.

    I'll try to open another thread to continue those discussions as this is not linked to international teams.
     
  2. jcbio11

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    Man, historically we are stacked. What's crazy is that so much of that talent was 90s, early to mid 2000s. We're kind of fading away now, especially compared to the glory days. I still think that only one WCH gold medal is an underachievement of that generation, but I guess that's what happens when most of your talent is speedy skilled forwards, while lacking in the goaltending and defense department. Now we're kind of the opposite at international level. Stacked at goalie position, okay to good at defense, kind of lacking at forward.

    Anyway to nitpick a little bit, because that's always easier than coming up with a roster of my own, I'd make a Stastny line for the chemistry, have them be the 1B line, while 1A is the Gaborik Demitra Hossa aka the Trencin connection.

    Satan, especially based on his international resume needs to be higher, he can't play on the checking line anyway, so 3rd line for him.

    Liba I am not sure about, maybe Zednik, Ciger or someone else from the older eras.

    Svehla was a beast, he should be paired up with Chara to make the best shutdown duo ever. This would push Visnovsky to 2nd pairing, he can pair with Sekera to make it the mobile speedy puck moving pairing.

    Milan Jurcina absolutely does not make the all time Slovakia roster, Meszaros questionable as well. Off the top of my head, Richard Lintner, Ivan Majesky, Lubomir Sekeras are all better choices.

    Goalies I agree with.
     
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    :cry: That hurt. That really hit too close to home. Not saying you're wrong.
     
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    If you can really call him a 'center' in that Tarasov's experimental top unit of the 1971-72 season. His position was quite unique in hockey: a 'midfielder' would probably be the closest description. Like I've said before, in his book Valery Kharlamov does not make any distinction between Firsov's and Gennady Tsygankov's roles/positions.
     
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    The finnish team is very good. Few changes i would make though. Petri Skriko i would switch to Ville Nieminen. But that is mainly because of I have been a fan of his since he was still a junior. Though I still think he was better than Skriko ever was.

    Another change would be Rinne or Rask insted of Ylönen. Sure Ylönen is a legend but let's be real he was never considered being one of the best goalkeepers in the world whereas Rask and Rinne have been.

    I would also love to have Petteri Nummelin in the team somehow. I could see a case for him over Niinimaa for sure. He should atleast be HM. But so should a couple of other guys who mainly played in the europe.
     
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    My Russia would be very traditional - I don't see any reasons to break proved lines:

    Kharlamov - Petrov - Mikhailov
    Krutov - Larionov - Makarov
    Mogilny - Fedorov - Bure
    Ovechkin - Datsyuk - Malkin
    Firsov, Maltsev

    Vasiliev - Zubov
    Fetisov - Kasatonov
    Markov - Konstantinov
    Gonchar

    Tretyak
    Khabibulin
     
  7. Eye of Ra

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    Norway.

    Patrick Thoresen - Knutsen - Zuccarello
    Skröder - Vikingstad - Trond Magnussen
    Erik Kristansen - Skaare - Petter Thoresen
    M.Olimb - Bastiansen - K.Olimb

    Trygg - Holös
    Tommy Jakobsen - Myrvold
    Norstebö - Tollefsen

    Haugen
    Volden

    classic norway hockey song

     
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    Lets do a Denmark.

    Mikkel Bödker - Frans Nielsen - Jannik Hansen
    N.Ehlers - Heinz Ehlers - Jens Nielsen
    Kim Staal - Peter Regin - O.Bjorkstrand
    Frederik Storm - Lars Eller - Nichlas Hardt

    Philip Larsen - Jesper Duus
    Daniel Nielsen - Jesper Daamgard
    Oliver Lauridsen - Jesper.B.Jensen

    Frederik Andersen
    Peter Hirsch
     
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    Indrasis - Zholtok - Balderis
    Darzins - Sprukts - Belavskis
    Daugavins - Fanduls - Karsums
    Pantelejevs - Nizivijs - Znarok

    Ozolins - Skrastins
    Kulda - Bartulis
    Ignatjevs - Lavins
    Tribuncovs - Galvins

    Irbe
    Skudra


    Regarding Poland, Wolski and Sidorkiewicz never played for Poland, both of them was part of Team Canada.

    Mariusz Czerkawski - Wojciech Tkacz - Jacek Płachta should be a line. Here is a nice video of that line when they are dominating in World Championship 2000 B-level:



    All time team:

    Mariusz Czerkawski - Wojciech Tkacz - Jacek Płachta
    Roman Steblecki - Jan Stopczyk - Bogdan Migacz
    Wieslaw Jobczyk - Jerzy Christ - Piotr Kwasigroch
    Mieczysław Jaskierski - Kryzsztof Oliwa - Leszek Laszkiewicz

    Andrzej Kadziolka - Henryk Gruth
    Jerzy Pots - Andrzej Szczepaniec
    Pawel Dronia - Adam Borzecki

    Walery Kosyl
    Andrzej Tkacz
     
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    At least Zabawa, Klisiak, Ziętara, Cholewa missing I think.
     
  11. Bhrangerfan0809

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    Interested to see if you guys think some of the new NHL players since this was posted in 2016 would slot into all-time teams for their respective countries.

    Laine and Rantanen would pretty easily slot into Finland’s wings, not sure who else would make the jump.
     
  12. NyQuil

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    No Miroslav Sikora?
     
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    I think we need to add Viktors Hatulevs to Latvia. He was the first Soviet player drafted by the NHL (1975, Philadelphia). Unfortunately, he obviously couldn't go to the NHL back then, and then alcoholism killed his career (and eventually him as well).

    He played both D and F.
     
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    Kosyl deserves Hall of Fame for his mask alone:

     
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    If we do Belarus, we'll have to put Andrei Mezin in goal. He played for Belarus in several Olympiads, including 2002 (remember the Miracle on Ice 2, when Belarus beat Sweden in the quartefinals?). Both Kostitsyn brothers and Mikhail Grabovski should make the team as well, as should Ruslan Salei.

    If we do Kazakhstan, then we definitely need to nominate Boris Alexandrov, a gold Olympic medalist (1976).

    For Ukraine, Dmitri Khristich and Alexei Zhitnik (even though he eventually switched to Russia).
     
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    If we ever do Lithuania (a very unlikely event), Darius Kasparaitis and Dainius Zubrus will easily make the team. Granted, Kasparaitis played a lot for Russia, but eventually he switched back to Lithuania.
     
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    Why is it Finland can't produce more centers or Finnish centers can't translate to the NHL on a bigger/broader scale? I've wondered this for a while now but I don't think anyone's given me a satisfactory enough answer so far. Saku Koivu ran into injury problems because of an unfortunate combination of size/early playing style, with a slightly underwhelming NHL career as a result, and Olli Jokinen was just a very good bad team scorer with a suspect-ish overall game.

    Lately both Mikael Granlund and Teuvo Teräväinen has transitioned from center to winger, with better overall results. On the flip side you have Sebastian Aho, who have switched sides with Teuvo. But anyways, it seems most Finnish star players are either a goalie or a winger. Just like Sweden has produced tons of quality defensemen lately. It must be something with the national systems/youth programs/leagues....
     
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    Isn't that a Swedish forward there? If so it would make it the 1972 Olympics, as Sweden boycotted 1976?
     
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    Best evidence I received when I posted the tweet was that it was from the 1973 Worlds.

    Some good pictures in that Twitter thread downstream, too.
     
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    Indeed that is some interesting discussion and photos.

    And didn't say before but definitley a neat mask.
     
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    Funny fact: 40 years later Kosyl had a guest appearance in Mad Max: Fury Road with his old mask.
     
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    Does anybody really believe a team of:

    Busher Jackson - Morenz - Bill Cook
    Joliat - Nighbor - Bathgate

    Clancy - Claghorn


    Would beat a team of:

    Kariya - Crosby - Iginla
    Sakic - Lindros - Yzerman

    Pronger - Stevens
     
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    According to the OP, not a single Canadian player born after 1965 should be on either Team Canada
     
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  24. VanIslander

    VanIslander Don't waste my time

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    No Esposito? No Sakic? No Iginla?

    Oh, wait.

    This thread is NOT at all about international teams in hockey history.
     
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    Well. Feel free to contribute.
     

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