Straka and Prospal are your typical 'no skill - full grit guys'. Players who didn´t have much talent (Holik was more talented in their junior years) but were willing to do anything coach asked them. Especially Prospal was very dedicated player whom every coach loved and he always overachieved on international scene.
Prospal and Straka were, I think, pretty solid PKers too. I believe Holik didn´t play much PK actually.
Finland
Esa Tikkanen - Saku Koivu - Teemu Selanne
Jussi Jokinen - Mikko Koivu - Jari Kurri
Niklas Hagman - Olli Jokinen - Jere Lehtinen
Petri Skriko - Matti Hagman - Tomas Sandstrom
Teppo Numminen - Kimmo Timmonen
Reijo Ruotsalainen - Jyrki Lumme
Toni Lydman - Janne Niinimaa
Miikka Kiprusoff
Urpo Yvonnen
HM: G Pekka Rinne, G Tuukka Rask, G Antti Niemi, G Kari Lehtonen, G Niklas Backstrom, G Jarmo Myllys, D Pekka Rautakallio, D Risto Siltanen, D Sami Vatanen, D Olli Maatta, D Joni Pitkanen, D Ossi Vaananen, D Janne Laukkanen, LW Ville Peltonen, LW Tuomo Ruuttu, LW Ville Nieminen, LW Sean Bergenheim, LW Lauri Korpikoski, LW Antti Laaksonen, C Raimo Helminen, C Jori Lehtera, C Christian Ruuttu, C Valtteri Filppula, C Teuvo Teravainen, C Niko Kapanen, RW Sami Kapanen, RW Ilkka Sinisalo, RW Antti Miettinen, RW Mikko Makela
See my other post. Bobby Holik is a no-brainer choice, especially if you're playing against Canada or USA. He was a big forward who excelled on faceoffs and was great defensively. Also, had lots of big game experience (maybe more than any Czech player on these lists). I'd put him on my team any day as a shut down guy.
Damn 3/4 of this all time team would play at same time. What a great generation it was Actually 10 of them played in Torino and Ziggy, Handzus and Nagy could as well if they would not be injured or retired mid season ( Palffy). I am so gratefull I could witness all slovakian medals and great performances. Except Lilehammer one. I heard we played some nice hockeySlovakia
Pavol Demitra - Peter Stastny - Marian Hossa
Igor Liba - Jozef Golonka - Peter Bondra
Ladislav Nagy - Jozef Stumpel - Marian Gaborik
Miroslav Satan - Michal Handzus - Ziggy Palffy
Zdeno Chara - Lubomir Visnovsky
Andrej Meszaros - Andrej Sekera
Robert Svehla - Milan Jurcina
Vladimir Dzurilla
Jaroslav Halak
If I have a team full of skilled stars, I'm willing to sacrifice one of them to make room for a player like Holik. He might not have high finishes in Selke voting, but I think most people would say he was much better defensively than Straka or Prospal. You gotta have someone that can be a shut down guy against the top centers from other countries.
Holik is a much different player than Holmstrom, but my post about him has a similar theme. A guy with intangibles that no one else on the team quite has, that should be in the lineup, even if it meant sacrificing a more skilled player in his place.
If I'm playing against the other top countries, I'm not just going to load my roster with guys who demand lots of ice time and are all skill, no grit guys. Someone has to be the grinder or shut down player.
what happen before the 90s I do not take seriously. The hockey world has change to much.
M Näslund - Forsberg - Alfredsson
Zetterberg - Sundin - Nylander
D Sedin - H Sedin - Eriksson
Dahlen - Bäckström - T Steen
M Renberg
Karlsson - Hedman
OEL - Lidström
Klingberg - Öhlund
Kronwall
what happen before the 90s I do not take seriously. The hockey world has change to much.
Straka and Prospal are your typical 'no skill - full grit guys'. Players who didn´t have much talent (Holik was more talented in their junior years) but were willing to do anything coach asked them. Especially Prospal was very dedicated player whom every coach loved and he always overachieved on international scene.
Prospal and Straka were, I think, pretty solid PKers too. I believe Holik didn´t play much PK actually.
Firsov played LW before he switched to center late in his career. He's out of position at RW.
WOW, you thread was moved and lost a very, very long post regarding all-time teams...
The thrust of it : 90ies and 00ies Habs teams need a second look (Sheldon Souray and Roman Hamrlik completely left off feels wrong, and Craig Rivet on the '90ies is VERY wrong, considering he was a regular (bottom-pairing...) for about two seasons. Brisebois instead of Rivet would be accurate.
MaxV, do you know what was the jersey numbers of Alexandrov and Nikolai Sologubov?
I agree with you about Brisebois (instead of Rivet) and Souray (instead of Bouillon), but I think that Gorges had more of an impact than Hamrlik in MTL. I will make the changes, thanks!