All Purpose Trade / Roster Building Thread Pt 11

[CanesFanBudMan]

I have no idea what anytime soon means for Rod

 

[spockBokk]

On Vatanen...yeesh. 18 games to go, seems likely he'll for sure miss the next 3. He's got until next weekend to heal up to even have a chance at playing the 12 games for the conditional 3rd. Heck, at this rate, the Devils may not even be getting the conditional 4th...

The only and unlikely positive outcome of that trade now would be the potential for him to sign a 1 yr show-me deal in CAR for below market value. His highest games-played in a season over the past 3 seasons is 57, so I could easily see him running into issues in UFA procuring a long-term deal. However, he is a bonafide top 4 RD and GMs are stupid so...

 

[CanesFanBudMan]

Also the setback was in today’s skate... there no way there has been a full medical assessment. I’m guessing Vat was feeling some pain and Rod just said the first thing on his mind

 

[WreckingCrew]

Could Vatanen potentially have less ice-time in a Canes jersey than legend James Wisniewski?

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Could Vatanen potentially have less ice-time in a Canes jersey than legend James Wisniewski?

Crazy to think that was actually his last NHL game.

 

[broman]

His highest games-played in a season over the past 3 seasons is 57, so I could easily see him running into issues in UFA procuring a long-term deal. However, he is a bonafide top 4 RD and GMs are stupid so...

[/QUOTE]

Actually that’s not entirely true. Vats used to be a steady 70+ GP performer over the years until Kucherov happened. The first concussion was the backdrop, so when Brassard elbowed him in early 2019, he ended up on an extended recovery. This lost him a significant number of games in 2018-19.

Having said that, he is a relative midget that plays a feistier game than his physique would allow. So you could say that he has a habit of getting bumped and bruised, which doesn’t bode well for an extended career. Methinks no GM should give him more than 4 years, but 5Mx4 shouldn’t come as a surprise.

 

[w e l o s t b o y s]

Even without the setback what could you really expect? Deadline deals are already iffy with so little time to acclimate to the environment, add in getting back to game speed after missing time, and of course the worst possible scenario, exactly what we got.

 

[spockBokk]

Actually that’s not entirely true. Vats used to be a steady 70+ GP performer over the years until Kucherov happened. The first concussion was the backdrop, so when Brassard elbowed him in early 2019, he ended up on an extended recovery. This lost him a significant number of games in 2018-19.

Having said that, he is a relative midget that plays a feistier game than his physique would allow. So you could say that he has a habit of getting bumped and bruised, which doesn’t bode well for an extended career. Methinks no GM should give him more than 4 years, but 5Mx4 shouldn’t come as a surprise.[/QUOTE]​

2 seasons of 71 games played is not what i would define as "steady"...

 

[Bunch of Jurcos]

Allow me a moment to dream about a really nice top 6:

Svech-Aho-Teuvo
Huberdeau-Trochek-Necas

Florida would not go for it and we couldn't pay for it but it sure would be cool to have two lines that could go.

 

[GoldiFox]

Allow me a moment to dream about a really nice top 6:

Svech-Aho-Teuvo
Huberdeau-Trochek-Necas

Florida would not go for it and we couldn't pay for it but it sure would be cool to have two lines that could go.

I've seen Florida fans worried that Huberdeau will go to get rid of Bobrovsky's contract with Florida looking to cut payroll. Dream big:

Bobrovsky ($1-2 millon retained) + Huberdeau for Mrazek/Reimer + Niederreiter + Gardiner + a couple picks/prospects

 

[ONO94]

I've seen Florida fans worried that Huberdeau will go to get rid of Bobrovsky's contract with Florida looking to cut payroll. Dream big:

Bobrovsky ($1-2 millon retained) + Huberdeau for Mrazek/Reimer + Niederreiter + Gardiner + a couple picks/prospects

Hmmm...needs more Staal (remove the Bob retention, if so)

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

I've seen Florida fans worried that Huberdeau will go to get rid of Bobrovsky's contract with Florida looking to cut payroll. Dream big:

Bobrovsky ($1-2 millon retained) + Huberdeau for Mrazek/Reimer + Niederreiter + Gardiner + a couple picks/prospects

Along the same thinking. I don’t know that the deal you proposed is much salary cutting. How about?
Bob @ 2 million retained + Huberdeau for

Mrazek, Dzingle, Bokk, this year’s 2nd, and a conditional 1st next year (if we make the conference finals its a 1st, if not a 2nd)?

of course we would need a deal like Gardiner and Reimer to Ottawa for their lowest ranking 2nd rounder.

then make a decision on Nino as well.

 

[Unsustainable]

I’d like Huberdeau, not sure the costs, 1st, Bean, ???

Nino and Staal to Pitt for Buj and Murray

roll:

Huberdeau - Aho - TT
Svech - Trocheck - Necas
Dzingle - Buj - ????
Foegele - Martyman - McGinn

Slavin - Hamilton
Skjei - Pesce
Gardiner - Keane

Murray
Mrazek

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

I’d like Huberdeau, not sure the costs, 1st, Bean, ???

Nino and Staal to Pitt for Buj and Murray

roll:

Huberdeau - Aho - TT
Svech - Trocheck - Necas
Dzingle - Buj - ????
Foegele - Martyman - McGinn

Slavin - Hamilton
Skjei - Pesce
Gardiner - Keane

Murray
Mrazek

If Gardiner is on the roster and Fleury isnt, DW should be run out of Raleigh

 

[Unsustainable]

If Gardiner is on the roster and Fleury isnt, DW should be run out of Raleigh

Gardiner is better then people give him credit, his flubs come from trying to do something

 

[WreckingCrew]

EDIT: Wrong thread

 

[AeroFishOne]

It’s damn pathetic the national broadcast is this shitty quality

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Gardiner is better then people give him credit, his flubs come from trying to do something

He needs to go for more than his flubs. He cant skate well enough to cover the team’s aggressive play. His flubs + slow skating = liability

 

[broman]

Actually that’s not entirely true. Vats used to be a steady 70+ GP performer over the years until Kucherov happened. The first concussion was the backdrop, so when Brassard elbowed him in early 2019, he ended up on an extended recovery. This lost him a significant number of games in 2018-19.

Having said that, he is a relative midget that plays a feistier game than his physique would allow. So you could say that he has a habit of getting bumped and bruised, which doesn’t bode well for an extended career. Methinks no GM should give him more than 4 years, but 5Mx4 shouldn’t come as a surprise.​

2 seasons of 71 games played is not what i would define as "steady"...

It’s three. His 2017-18 stats are split ANA/NJ. But yeah, all that’s hardly any consolation today with the freak foot contusion at the time of direst need.

 

[GoCanes2015]

Dougie Hamilton is *still* our 4th leader scorer after being out for nearly 2 months.

 

[AD Skinner]

Any new word on his recovery?

 

[Wolfpuck]

Any new word on his recovery?

He’s out of the scooter and in the boot.

 

[geehaad]

He’s out of the scooter and in the boot.

So....he's dead?

 

[Chrispy]

So....he's dead?

And Rod has his best men trying to figure out what to do with Dougie.

 

[A Star is Burns]

So....he's dead?

Let's just say he ain't getting any aliver