All purpose trade / roster building thread part 2, the push for the playoffs
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I'm kind of in a place of wondering if making a move for the sake of making a move is really worth it?
Hoffman and Kreider are both left shot LWs. If we could get Hayes in a sign and trade it might be worth it or Huberdeau/Zibanejad type (both unlikely) would definitely be worth it.
Hoffman and Kreider are both left shot LWs. If we could get Hayes in a sign and trade it might be worth it or Huberdeau/Zibanejad type (both unlikely) would definitely be worth it.
That would be dumb. We might both make it and push the Pens out of the playoffs.
Ole Gil
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Eric Staal is the guy who makes sense. A center rental who can be a big upgrade on Wallmark. Hayes would be great but will cost too much as someone will be extending him. Wenneberg/Henrique/Carter 's contracts are blech. Guys like Brassard or Glenden, might as well just stick with Wallmark.
He's the only good option barring a big hockey trade.
Toss them a 2nd and Fleury, and make a real run at this thing.
He's the only good option barring a big hockey trade.
Toss them a 2nd and Fleury, and make a real run at this thing.
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Even if we do nothing, I'm not throwing in the towel. We could still make it. I just think we should do something to improve ourselves. Should we have matched a move with two firsts potentially? No. But like I've said, we have mid level assets to improve ourselves.
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I'm still 100% down with this. It's been reported he isn't keen to move from Minny, but he might make an exception for us.
I think the better offer to the Wild would be Walmark and a pick. He'd be able to step into their lineup and fill a position of need for them and doesn't require a contract negotiation immediately. Given the way Eric has played down the stretch, I'd think a 3rd round pick might be enough added to Walmark.
They're 6 points from 2nd place Washington, with 2 games in hand.
Duchene has been a PPG+ center in his contract year. The Jackets haven't had the horses to compete with Pittsburgh/Washington offensively in recent years. They have them now.
So long as Bobrovsky doesn't melt down, they should be very competitive in the Metro. Tampa is a different story, but you never know what can happen; who saw Tampa getting dominated by Washington last year like they did?
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That's so much for a rental + players rights. Even better, is they are going to pay him some ridiculous contract on top of it.
A lot of pressure to get a big return on Panarin.
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Kreider is crazy good, i dont care which hand he use.
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I'd be good with either Fleury+2nd or Wallmark+3rd for EStaal.
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EStaal could work, but only under the assumption that we don't have to give up a lot to get him.
Also note: he has *not* been good in the last 10 for the Wild.
Also note: he has *not* been good in the last 10 for the Wild.
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Kreider would be the equivalent of giving up a 1st for a very slightly higher producing Ferland for 1 more year. No thanks.
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Staal also has a history of performing poorly as a rental and we know firsthand what unmotivated Eric Staal looks like.
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I'd rather stay away from the Estaalo thing but if the situation is right....have to think he'd come back focused and wanting to make good on the way he left.
That history is too small a sample size to judge by.
And there's no reason to assume he'd be unmotivated. If anything he should be super motivated. He gets to play with his brother again. He's up for what is likely to be his last contract. He goes from a floundering team that's selling to one in the hunt. He gets to play for Brindy his mentor. He doesn't have the pressure of being "the man."
In some ways it's a ideal fit, if he can lose the whole mercurial mopey deal he gets going on for a couple months.
Don't get me wrong, I'd rather leave it in the past too. But sometimes, when the nice pizza place is all the way across town and you're broke, the $5 Little Ceasar's pizza that just happens to be a block from your house will get the job done.
That history is too small a sample size to judge by.
And there's no reason to assume he'd be unmotivated. If anything he should be super motivated. He gets to play with his brother again. He's up for what is likely to be his last contract. He goes from a floundering team that's selling to one in the hunt. He gets to play for Brindy his mentor. He doesn't have the pressure of being "the man."
In some ways it's a ideal fit, if he can lose the whole mercurial mopey deal he gets going on for a couple months.
Don't get me wrong, I'd rather leave it in the past too. But sometimes, when the nice pizza place is all the way across town and you're broke, the $5 Little Ceasar's pizza that just happens to be a block from your house will get the job done.
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Navin R Slavin
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Just because you double up on Red once, it doesn't mean you're gonna double up on Red every time.
I mean, is EStaal better than Wallmark? Yes. Is he worth Wallmark and a 3rd? Probably. Is he worth more than that? Ehh.
I wouldn't hate it. But it ain't no kind of guarantee.
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Now that Skinner got traded for even less than he did, I think Staal would be willing to show his face in Carolina again.
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I think we would and I think TML might but I don't see any way that the Rangers would. At a minimum they are going to want Fox instead of Bean and someone more significant than Ferland coming back for what they lose even accounting for the draft picks.
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