All Purpose Stastny Thread

klozge · Mar 3, 2014

ASmileyFace said:
The idea that this could be Stastny's last season with the avs after staying through all the bad years is just heart breaking. I really like the guy despite being "overpayed." Please resign him, he's such a big part of the team now...

Yeah, it will feel strange if he isn't an Av anymore next season or even next week. I don't even want to think about it.

famicommander · Mar 3, 2014

I'm terrified of losing Staz. I'll be doing backflips if Joe and Patrick find a way to keep Radar and Staz.

ColoradoSportsFan · Mar 3, 2014

ASmileyFace said:
The idea that this could be Stastny's last season with the avs after staying through all the bad years is just heart breaking. I really like the guy despite being "overpayed." Please resign him, he's such a big part of the team now...

Agreed "I delt with all the Sacco BS and you trade me to Columbus? Get ready to see me take a discount to go to Chi/STL and rip you up every time"

AvsWraith said:
I'm kinda worried about the effect that trading Staz would have on the Avs as a group. As has been mentioned before, it seems to be a tight group with great camaraderie. If there is a correlation between good play on the ice and the off-ice social dynamic, I wonder how big a blow it would be to remove Stastny, especially where Duchene is concerned because we know that he and Staz are close.

Yeah, it could be rough on Dutchy. In that interview with DMac and Big Al he said Staz was one of his best friends on the team. Think he said it was tough playing against him in the US/Canada game too.

Av-merican said:
Well, to take a comparable situation, Deadmarsh and Forsberg were very close way back when too. Of course Deader hit a rut during his time in Colorado and at the time welcomed a fresh start.

No doubt losing Stastny would be a blow, but even a team as young as this one understands the business side of the game. I imagine they're prepared in the event that #26 gets moved

They might play lip service to the business but Staz wears an A for a reason. Not to mention, that 01 team still had Sakic, Foote, Roy, etc. And both guys were a lot farther along in their careers. I doubt Staz brings us a player like Rob Blake.

Tigervixxen said:
I'm sure they'd all suck it up and deal with it but Duchene especially does need someone to lean on, I think it would be toughest on him.

Especially if you believe Dater when he says there is still lingering tension between him and ROR. That could get ugly quick if Dutchy thinks ROR in some way cost him playing with his close friend. Then again you'd have to believe Dater...

tigervixxxen · Mar 3, 2014

Nah, Duchene and O'Reilly might not be best buddies but if there was anything I bet they have moved past it. They work so well together on the ice, there is a trust factor there. For the group to be as tight as they are now there shouldn't be lingering issues. Not everyone has to be best friends but they all have to get along to some extent. MacKinnon has really taken to O'Reilly, he is a great teammate.

ColoradoSportsFan · Mar 3, 2014

Tigervixxen said:
Nah, Duchene and O'Reilly might not be best buddies but if there was anything I bet they have moved past it. They work so well together on the ice, there is a trust factor there. For the group to be as tight as they are now there shouldn't be lingering issues. Not everyone has to be best friends but they all have to get along to some extent. MacKinnon has really taken to O'Reilly, he is a great teammate.

I don't doubt that. Like I said...you'd have to believe Dater. In retrospect I probably should have avoided that quote altogether.

Pokecheque · Mar 4, 2014

Colorado Sports Fan said:
They might play lip service to the business but Staz wears an A for a reason. Not to mention, that 01 team still had Sakic, Foote, Roy, etc. And both guys were a lot farther along in their careers. I doubt Staz brings us a player like Rob Blake.

Right, Deader didn't bring Rob Blake by himself either, that wasn't my point. I'm saying people might be overestimating the impact Stastny's departure will have on team morale. It'd hurt, sure, but this isn't Brent Mayne being dealt by the Rockies here. There's enough talent and maturity there to weather the storm.

Mind you, my biggest concern about a Stastny trade is the impact of his loss on the ice. No one else on the roster does what he does, and no other forward save for O'Reilly takes on tougher opposition.

Avs For Life · Mar 4, 2014

http://www.denverpost.com/avalanche/ci_25272278/paul-stastny-absolutely-willing-grant-avs-discount?source=rss&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Apparently Staz would "Absolutely" Give the Avs a discount? From Terry Frei

Nzap · Mar 4, 2014

Adrian Dater ‏@adater 1m

Stastny agent and Avs expected to talk later today. Situation still fluid, anything might still happen

Hopefully they get it sorted one way or another.

tigervixxxen · Mar 4, 2014

Dater is sensationalizing it. Obviously anything can still happen but how many times does both Roy and Stastny have to be quoted in different publications with the same message for it not to make sense?

The Mars Volchenkov · Mar 4, 2014

If he's willing to take a hometown discount, then it doesn't have to wait until the summer. If he's so intent on staying, then I don't see what the wait is.

Former Ladder · Mar 4, 2014

My guess is a 5 year deal @ $6-6.5 mil per year. I only say that much because he has reached his UFA years. I see it being closer to 6 if he truly wants the team to be in a good place, financially, going forward. (I hope ROR has the same values this summer)

The Kingslayer · Mar 4, 2014

Should be getting paid as much as but not more then Duchene. Same goes for ROR.

klozge · Mar 4, 2014

No idea how this discount will look like but I like his statement very much.

Avs For Life · Mar 4, 2014

The Kingslayer said:
Should be getting paid as much as but not more then Duchene. Same goes for ROR.

If we had all 3 locked up at 6 mil per for many years to come... Avs would be in a really good position for years to come

Avs For Life · Mar 4, 2014

Adrian Dater ‏@adater 2m
Avs getting lots of calls from teams. Gonna be an interesting next 24 hours on Stastny

FWIW

Colorado Avalanche · Mar 4, 2014

Avs For Life said:
If we had all 3 locked up at 6 mil per for many years to come... Avs would be in a really good position for years to come

Landy/Duchene/ROR and Stastny signed up for next 5-6 years.. That's great core for 5-6 years. We would be pretty much set offensively. Not to mention MacKinnon.. :yo:

The Mars Volchenkov · Mar 4, 2014

Anything over 6M is not a hometown discount, IMO. He's a real good player, but I'm not paying him more than Duchene.

I don't buy the hometown discount until a deal is signed. Players say this all the time and it doesn't always come true.

henchman21 · Mar 4, 2014

Colorado Avalanche said:
Landy/Duchene/ROR and Stastny signed up for next 5-6 years.. That's great core for 5-6 years. We would be pretty much set offensively. Not to mention MacKinnon..

The Avs could easily have 5 of their top 6 forwards under control for 5+ years on good contracts. The last RW could easily a cheaper UFA or a developed player.

Colorado Avalanche · Mar 4, 2014

The Mars Volchenkov said:
Anything over 6M is not a hometown discount, IMO. He's a real good player, but I'm not paying him more than Duchene.

I don't buy the hometown discount until a deal is signed. Players say this all the time and it doesn't always come true.

Exactly 6 million would be hometown discount in my books. He can get 7+ million open market.

If he takes less than his making right now It's discount. Market for centers like Stastny is crazy. Especially in summer.

Former Ladder · Mar 4, 2014

Avs For Life said:
Adrian Dater ‏@adater 2m
Avs getting lots of calls from teams. Gonna be an interesting next 24 hours on Stastny

FWIW

He is just trolling. Stastny will be signed before tonight's game, mark my words.

If not, then mark the following:

:scared:

tigervixxxen · Mar 4, 2014

I'm fine with Stastny getting 6 or a smidge more because of the UFA years. That extra bit is not going to make or break the payroll. Just get it done.

Pierce Hawthorne · Mar 4, 2014

Stastny situation actually looks like it could be interesting over then next ~20 hours.

Figured for sure he'd be an Av the rest of the season regardless of if he signs back or not.

Now.... With the meeting today and everything that's been said the past couple of days, I'm thinking he could be moved out if no deal by the deadline.

Hopefully we resign him. I don't know what Ill do if we trade him. One of my Top 3 favorite Avs players.

Foppa Frossa · Mar 4, 2014

Chambers reporting stazz "absolutely willing to take hometown discount"

Freaky Styley · Mar 4, 2014

Good article highlighting the major points of the stastny situation
http://thehockeywriters.com/trade-paul-stastny-trade-paul-stastny-question/

Holyhell · Mar 4, 2014

He's in the prime of his career, he likes the team, said he'd definitely take a discount, has been with the Avs the longest and is putting up a great season.

Anything less than re-signed is unacceptable to me, don't care about the return in a trade (unless it's ridiculous). Colorado has the cap space to get it done now.

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