Speculation: All-encompassing Draft Thread

[Gurglesons]

The delusion in this thread is amazing...with all the young talent in the Metro and the competitiveness of the division, the Pens will taking up space at the bottom of the division next season with the NJD...it’s going to take some great trades of current players for younger players and prospects really taking a step forward for the Pens to be a playoff team next year...that’s a crap shoot...we are just too old and stale rn...hopefully a change of GM and/or coach helps...they have to make the right moves...

they have to keep the 15th pick...

Islanders and Philly are about to get f***ed by the Cap. Washington is basically us with less talented stars. Columbus f***ing blows and will continue to blow when they give out ridiculous contracts to keep a solid yet unimpressive D together.

Carolina will likely be really good. Rangers potentially, but their D is still ugly.

 

[Ryder71]

Outside of the top 5 or so, this draft doesn’t seem as amazing as a lot of people make it out to be.

And you predicate that on what exactly? Because I've heard nothing but the opposite.

 

[Lustaf]

lmaooo
Toronto almost won

Where is the pens ball in all that mess? And why is it only the rangers ball that's flying up so high and easily?

Rip

I'd also rather have seen the Leafs get him then the Rangers.

 

[Ryder71]

Islanders and Philly are about to get f***ed by the Cap. Washington is basically us with less talented stars. Columbus f***ing blows and will continue to blow when they give out ridiculous contracts to keep a solid yet unimpressive D together.

Carolina will likely be really good. Rangers potentially, but their D is still ugly.

The Rags will have mad talent on wing but they're thin down the middle.

 

[Dangles78]

I think it's a bit better than solid. According to some pundits this draft is like 2003. Lots of good players to go in the first couple of rounds.

I don't think it'll be a 2003, that's a pretty tall task since that class may be the best ever. I do like the depth in this draft though. The top-10 is legit...I'd love for JR to somehow get in there and get one of Sanderson, Holtz, Raymond.

 

[T1K]

Zary seems like a solid choice at 15. The key is to get a usable ELC guy.

 

[Ryder71]

I don't think it'll be a 2003, that's a pretty tall task since that class may be the best ever. I do like the depth in this draft though. The top-10 is legit...I'd love for JR to somehow get in there and get one of Sanderson, Holtz, Raymond.

1979 was an excellent draft also. 1979, 2003, now 2020? Could be.

JR needs to keep the pick.

 

[Gurglesons]

The Rags will have mad talent on wing but they're thin down the middle.

Plus they'll have to overpay Zibby who is an offensive talent, but really not much beyond that.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Take the best available player period! If all things are equal take a Center.

It always has to be BPA. If Askarov is there and he’s their BPA that’s who they should take. They really need an impact player whoever they pick. I’m hoping they package that pick with a player and move up.

 

[CallArnoldSlick]

1979 was an excellent draft also. 1979, 2003, now 2020? Could be.

JR needs to keep the pick.

Don't forget about the GOAT 2015.

McDavid, Eichel, Marner, Rantanen, Barzal, Boeser, Connor, Hanifin, Provorov, Meier, Chabot, Samsonov, Konecny.

Also decent players in Beauvillier, DeBrusk, Gurianov, Zacha, Strome, Svechnikov, Eriksson Ek, White, Crouse, Juulsen, Roslovic, Larsson.

That's just the first round. Pens should have had the 16th pick, which was Barzal.

Edit: Aho taken 35th.

 

[Dangles78]

1979 was an excellent draft also. 1979, 2003, now 2020? Could be.

JR needs to keep the pick.

no argument from me. Only way I’d say don’t keep it is if I knew there was a 100% chance at Owen Power next year...

 

[Andy99]

I like Lundell as well. Mentioned him in the prospect thread. Love his game as a 2b kind of center in the Kopitar type.

not really as big and without the offensive skill...he’s kind Oskar Sundqvist to me...he’d be a safe but closer to NHL ready prospect who could develop into a 2C but without any exciting offensive talents...won’t be an impact player but he’s just the two way hardworking blah player that Sullivan likes...we need impact, verve, juice...we have to take a risk on getting someone whose ceiling is much higher...

 

[dogthateats]

And you predicate that on what exactly? Because I've heard nothing but the opposite.

Mostly my worthless gut feeling, but also a combination of reading and watching draft content and the fact that there was a lot of playoffs and high pressured hockey cancelled this year. Maybe skewing scouts opinions on players towards the positive. Seems weird that Lafreniere is the clear cut #1, but not a generational talent. I think it will be a good draft just not amazing. We will see in 3 or 4 years.

 

[Ryder71]

no argument from me. Only way I’d say don’t keep it is if I knew there was a 100% chance at Owen Power next year...

There isn't a guarantee for next year as we know. Now we're already looking at next years draft. Well, I doubt it'll much matter because we probably won't be picking high next year.

 

[Ryder71]

Mostly my worthless gut feeling, but also a combination of reading and watching draft content and the fact that there was a lot of playoffs and high pressured hockey cancelled this year. Maybe skewing scouts opinions on players towards the positive. Seems weird that Lafreniere is the clear cut #1, but not a generational talent. I think it will be a good draft just not amazing. We will see in 3 or 4 years.

If it isn't I'll blame you.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

not really as big and without the offensive skill...he’s kind Oskar Sundqvist to me...he’d be a safe but closer to NHL ready prospect who could develop into a 2C but without any exciting offensive talents...won’t be an impact player but he’s just the two way hardworking blah player that Sullivan likes...we need impact, verve, juice...we have to take a risk on getting someone whose ceiling is much higher...

Mate I might have initially been attached to Lundell hype because of the Sully of it all. I might have mentioned that in the prospect thread too now that I remember.

Yeah I go for the highest ceiling prospect available at that pick

 

[The Greatest 101]

Lundell

2020 Draft: Lundell hoping to take two-way game to NHL next season

 

[Kasperi kapanen]

Seth Jarvis could end up like a Braden Point imo I’d go with him. I also like Marat Khusnutdinov, but that’s a bit of a reach.

 

[Gurglesons]

not really as big and without the offensive skill...he’s kind Oskar Sundqvist to me...he’d be a safe but closer to NHL ready prospect who could develop into a 2C but without any exciting offensive talents...won’t be an impact player but he’s just the two way hardworking blah player that Sullivan likes...we need impact, verve, juice...we have to take a risk on getting someone whose ceiling is much higher...

I don’t think he is that at all from what I’ve seen.

He is a high IQ player that fashions himself after Barkov and Datsyuk. So like exactly the opposite of what you are selling him as.

 

[CallArnoldSlick]

Lundell

2020 Draft: Lundell hoping to take two-way game to NHL next season

Lundell is ranked #8 by Future Considerations, #8 by International Scouting Services, #10 by Elite Prospects, and #12 by Bob McKenzie. He could certainly fall to 15, but he's probably taken earlier.

 

[Gurglesons]

Lundell is ranked #8 by Future Considerations, #8 by International Scouting Services, #10 by Elite Prospects, and #12 by Bob McKenzie. He could certainly fall to 15, but he's probably taken earlier.

I think I see us taking him if available was the argument not that he would be. Given our nature with Finland.

 

[Kasperi kapanen]

I think I see us taking him if available was the argument not that he would be. Given our nature with Finland.

If we take more of an “all around” center, Dylan Holloway would be much better. He’s a much better skater and he plays physical too.

 

[Andy99]

I don’t think he is that at all from what I’ve seen.

He is a high IQ player that fashions himself after Barkov and Datsyuk. So like exactly the opposite of what you are selling him as.

Lol...“fashioning” and being as good a player are two different things...I fashion myself after Jimmy Page when I play the guitar..

 

[Gurglesons]

If we take more of an “all around” center, Dylan Holloway would be much better. He’s a much better skater and he plays physical too.

But the whole point I’m making is that Lundell at his worst is a solid two way 3C and at his best is a Hintz type 2C behind Sid in the twilight.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

So I guess we don't have to spend all summer discussing whether or not to trade Lafreniere for two lesser prospects now?