After trading Marner for Heiskanen, would Leafs be more or less likely to win cup this season?
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Incorrect. Dahlin may have the edge offensively, but defensively, Dahlin doesn't touch Miro.
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Yes because another offensive minded dman that can't defend is exactly what the Leafs need.
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Man I'd love to see Miro on a team with a good offense. Maybe the Stars can do that one day cause I never want to see him traded lol
Short answer: I believe they'd be more likely.
Long answer: they'd obviously take a slight hit offensively by losing Marner but at the same time they're a team that can afford to do that because of their depth, and they'd be adding another dman that can also contribute offensively.
I think getting a dman who would immediately be the best 2 way player on the team would be a huge add for them. A guy who can move the puck just as well as any dman on that team and has the defensive abilities to eat up 25+ mins a game if necessary. Throw him with Reilly or Barrie and watch them dominate together. Stars did it with Klingberg and Miro but never had a 3rd puck moving dman so they have to keep them split up to balance pairings.
HOWEVER, I think in the playoffs they would potentially be physically outmatched, especially on the back end. That'd be a secondary worry though since they'd be able to transition so well it wouldn't happen often.
Short answer: I believe they'd be more likely.
Long answer: they'd obviously take a slight hit offensively by losing Marner but at the same time they're a team that can afford to do that because of their depth, and they'd be adding another dman that can also contribute offensively.
I think getting a dman who would immediately be the best 2 way player on the team would be a huge add for them. A guy who can move the puck just as well as any dman on that team and has the defensive abilities to eat up 25+ mins a game if necessary. Throw him with Reilly or Barrie and watch them dominate together. Stars did it with Klingberg and Miro but never had a 3rd puck moving dman so they have to keep them split up to balance pairings.
HOWEVER, I think in the playoffs they would potentially be physically outmatched, especially on the back end. That'd be a secondary worry though since they'd be able to transition so well it wouldn't happen often.
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It's the otherway around, touted as the next McDavid but hasn't even touched his jockstrap.
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It's funny how people think Heiskanen wouldn't make Colorado better in Makar's place.
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The next McDavid who plays 15 mins a night as a defenseman. Generational.
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Whenever I take a look at the stat sheets, I'm impressed by Makar and Hughes. Both are fantastic talents. But when I actually watch the games, it's Heiskanen that leaves my mouth wide open and my jaw laying on the floor.
Mitch Marner is amazing. In fact, the best Leafs player in my mind. Yet, I can't help but think that the Toronto Maple Leafs would be a better team if Dubas managed to flip Marner for Heiskanen.
Mitch Marner is amazing. In fact, the best Leafs player in my mind. Yet, I can't help but think that the Toronto Maple Leafs would be a better team if Dubas managed to flip Marner for Heiskanen.
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Dahlin is the Better defender statistically. By saying ” he cant defend” you Are letting your agenda shine through. Heiskanen is not becoming a better Playing by you talking down Dahlin using false information. Dahlin is outperforming him offensively and defensively despite being younger and I am sorry, there is no way around that.
He is a brilliant defender statistically. Even if he was a horrendous defender, which could not be further from the truth, he is on pace for a 56 point season, which would be the first time a teenage defenseman scored over 50 since the early 1980s. That would be enough for any team to want him.
Dahlin is generational and along with McDavid the player in the league any Franchise would want. Dahlin and McDavid are in a complete tier of there own as far as young players go.
Heiskanen is not even good enough to be favored against Makar or Hughes, let alone the mightiest of them all in Dahlin.
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And despite not getting enough opportunity, that his metrics suggest he clearly deserves, will be the highest scoring teenage defenceman in almost 4 decades, with f***ing outstanding physical play and great defensive stats. He can still be just as good as McDavid, if not better.
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Leafs would probably be worse if Marner was traded for Dahlin this season. Better in 4 years maybe but not today.
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Well if that is the case, that is the case with Heiskanen too, since Dahlin is much better offensively and defensively compared to Heiskanen, right now! Statistically he has always been and will always be far ahead. Dahlin is litteraly years ahead despite being younger.
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Marner is the leafs best player. Plays the pk, and does well at it, team leading ppg for the least 1.5 years, amongst the league leaders in take aways, etc.
I would have a hard time making the trade but it would make us a more evenly balanced team. With our current defense I cant see us making it far in the playoffs.
I would have a hard time making the trade but it would make us a more evenly balanced team. With our current defense I cant see us making it far in the playoffs.
Dahlin is also having a down year for his standards while Miro is having a great one.
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If scoring at the highest pace by a teenage defenceman in almost 4 decades is a down year, those are some pretty high standards.
what if I told you points shouldn't be all that significant for a d-man since their primary job is defending.
