Confirmed with Link: Adam Lowry Signs ATO

JetsWillFly4Ever · Apr 4, 2013

allan5oh said:
I think he's talking more long term. There should be a few more this fall, and you never know, Trouba and Scheifele could be there as well. Zach Yuen should be there this year?

Ya definitely just more long term. I'm just excited to start having guys that Chevy drafted going there. I'm expecting Scheifele and Trouba to play some games there (probably not many), and then guys like Sutter, Kosmachuk, even Kasdorf and Hellebuyck when they can go there. Not talking about this specific moment, Lowry's just the start.

garret9 · Apr 4, 2013

JetsWillFly4Ever said:
Ya definitely just more long term. I'm just excited to start having guys that Chevy drafted going there. I'm expecting Scheifele and Trouba to play some games there (probably not many), and then guys like Sutter, Kosmachuk, even Kasdorf and Hellebuyck when they can go there. Not talking about this specific moment, Lowry's just the start.

Sutter would be going this fall, if he gets signed...

Gil Fisher · Apr 4, 2013

garret9 said:
Sutter would be going this fall, if he gets signed...

can he be an overager in Junior? Not sure he's ready for the rock. Maybe ECHL for him.

garret9 · Apr 4, 2013

Gil Fisher said:
can he be an overager in Junior? Not sure he's ready for the rock. Maybe ECHL for him.

If he can't make the rock I wouldn't think he's worth keeping as a prospect TBH...
Defencemen as over-agers or ECHL is a bit different, but otherwise that's where prospects go to die.

peter sullivan · Apr 4, 2013

it would be spectacular if this guy could continue his trajectory.....he is exactly what we need.....i could see him and trouba both surpassing scheifele in the long run.

DEANYOUNGBLOOD17 · Apr 4, 2013

The last 10 responses ... to this thread are ASSINE......this GUY deserves a ECL ........givin his progression in CHL he either makes the Jets in training camp or spends a year in the AHL .... B4 moving up ...........Dont *****foot around say it like it is............................ :yo:

allan5oh · Apr 4, 2013

Who said he isn't getting an ELC? He's not getting an AHL only contract.

DEANYOUNGBLOOD17 · Apr 4, 2013

I did not say he is not getting a ELC .... a AHL 10 game would be included in the reg ELC starting in 2013/2014 :handclap:

garret9 · Apr 4, 2013

DEANYOUNGBLOOD17 said:
The last 10 responses ... to this thread are ASSINE......this GUY deserves a ECL ........givin his progression in CHL he either makes the Jets in training camp or spends a year in the AHL .... B4 moving up ...........Dont *****foot around say it like it is............................

Although they aren't even remotely the same player, to play devil's advocate: his pt/gp progression is just slightly a hair worse than Telegin. Just to be DA.

DEANYOUNGBLOOD17 said:
I did not say he is not getting a ELC .... a AHL 10 game would be included in the reg ELC starting in 2013/2014

The only discussion about not getting an ELC was towards Sutter, NOT Lowry.
We all know talks are going on the details just aren't finished.

Guerzy · Apr 4, 2013

Signed!

Scott Brown ‏@BrownScottTN 2m
#IceCaps are proud to announce they have signed forward Adam Lowry to an ATO

jetkarma* · Apr 4, 2013

Guerzy said:
Signed!

Yet gain all the naysayers ...lol

Good to hear , time to continue his hockey year on the Rock.

Gump Hasek · Apr 4, 2013

Guerzy said:
Signed!

Don't they still need to sign him to an ELC though prior to June 1 or they'll lose his rights? Am feeling a bit foggy this morning, am unsure of the exact process.

buggs · Apr 4, 2013

cheswick · Apr 4, 2013

Gump Hasek said:
Don't they still need to sign him to an ELC though prior to June 1 or they'll lose his rights? Am feeling a bit foggy this morning, am unsure of the exact process.

What I'm wondering too. I think the ATO is so they won't have to burn a year of ELC on the few games he'd play, but does signing an ATO automatically mean an ELC is signed too?

Huffer · Apr 4, 2013

Great News! How many games left for the Ice Caps? Hopefully he gets some meaningful icetime so the Org (and us) can get a good read on him.

jetkarma* · Apr 4, 2013

cheswick said:
What I'm wondering too. I think the ATO is so they won't have to burn a year of ELC on the few games he'd play, but does signing an ATO automatically mean an ELC is signed too?

Almost positive that any AHL games don't count , so like Scheifele last year playing 7 games ( I think it was ) then playing on the Rock after Barrie was eliminated , those games did not add on the the NHL games at all.

Jets know how good Lowry is and they aren't going to not handle this right and Lowry isn't going to make signing an issue.

Hank Chinaski · Apr 4, 2013

My understanding is that the ATO is strictly a one-way AHL contract. If he were to be called up to the Jets, he would need to be signed to a two-way ELC. EDIT: Technically could also be signed to an NHL ATO, but those are one game contracts for emergency purposes only.

Gump Hasek · Apr 4, 2013

Hank Chinaski said:
My understanding is that the ATO is strictly a one-way AHL contract. If he were to be called up to the Jets, he would need to be signed to a two-way ELC.

The question though is, doesn't an ELC still need to be signed prior to June 1, or does the ATO suffice to retain his rights beyond that date?

Hank Chinaski · Apr 4, 2013

jetkarma said:
Almost positive that any AHL games don't count , so like Scheifele last year playing 7 games ( I think it was ) then playing on the Rock after Barrie was eliminated , those games did not add on the the NHL games at all.

Jets know how good Lowry is and they aren't going to not handle this right and Lowry isn't going to make signing an issue.

The amount of games played is meaningless in this case. Once the player turns 20 (or if they turn 20 between Sept. 16 and Dec. 31 in the year the ELC was signed), the contract no longer slides.

Guerzy · Apr 4, 2013

Gump Hasek said:
Don't they still need to sign him to an ELC though prior to June 1 or they'll lose his rights? Am feeling a bit foggy this morning, am unsure of the exact process.

I believe that is correct, we must sign him or he goes back into the draft this June.

Paging Holden...

garret9 · Apr 4, 2013

Guerzy said:
I believe that is correct, we must sign him or he goes back into the draft this June.

Paging Holden...

I believe you're right. Unlike Scheifele who already had an ELC, Lowry still isn't under a NHL contract. This ATO doesn't affect his rights until they do.

Rheged · Apr 4, 2013

Yeah, an NHL contract (ELC) would still be required to keep him from going back into the draft.

Hank Chinaski · Apr 4, 2013

Gump Hasek said:
The question though is, doesn't an ELC still need to be signed prior to June 1, or does the ATO suffice to retain his rights beyond that date?

Unless there's some kind of strange CBA exception that I'm unaware of, my understanding was that it must be an ELC. The ATO doesn't have any significance wrt NHL rights.

buggs · Apr 4, 2013

So ATO as a temporary measure while they work out the details on an ELC?

truck · Apr 4, 2013

Hank Chinaski said:
Unless there's some kind of strange CBA exception that I'm unaware of, my understanding was that it must be an ELC. The ATO doesn't have any significance wrt NHL rights.

Yep. ATO is just an amateur try out.

Perhaps they wanna see how he looks before they commit on money. They standard dollars for a third rounder are a probably a little different than what Lowry is due.

Might be a quick way to determine where is immediate value sits.

Saponari is also on an ATO. Other players like Zach O'Brien signed ATOs last year. It has nothing to do with NHL rights.

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