Speculation: Acq/ Rost. Bldg./ Cap Part XXXII: Toys for Trotz

[Monsterrain]

Id love to get two ufa dmen but if that means we cant get a 2nd center then i dont want to do that. I wont be able to deal with brooks groin being our 2nd c.

 

[NoMoreChoking]

I would gladly have Laich as our 2C if that meant getting Erhoff and Orpik/Gorges

 

[Langway]

Id love to get two ufa dmen but if that means we cant get a 2nd center then i dont want to do that. I wont be able to deal with brooks groin being our 2nd c.

They could always trade for the second one or go with a cheaper secondary target. IMO Bellemore and perhaps Weaver could be solid value in UFA. Hard to say with the later after Montreal's playoffs but some of the reported $2M stuff seems awfully reasonable (esp. when compared to Erskine). They could also go the bonus-laden route with Robidas.

@TGfireandice: For those asking, teams can still buy out players by placing them on unconditional waivers tomorrow. Buyout period ends at 5 p.m. tomorrow.

 

[fedfed]

I'd trade away Brouwer to open up cap space. I think Fehr can replace him in the PP formation.

Thankfully, with the summer cap you can make corresponding moves after you went over the cap.

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Marcus Johansson ($2.000m) / Nicklas Backstrom ($6.700m) / Alex Ovechkin ($9.538m)
Brooks Laich ($4.500m) / Paul Stastny ($7.600m) / Evgeny Kuznetsov ($0.900m)
Jason Chimera ($2.000m) / Eric Fehr ($1.500m) / Joel Ward ($3.000m)
Jay Beagle ($0.900m) / Chris Brown ($0.853m) / Tom Wilson ($0.894m)
Aaron Volpatti ($0.575m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Karl Alzner ($2.800m) / John Carlson ($3.967m)
Christian Ehrhoff ($6.000m) / Mike Green ($6.083m)
Dmitry Orlov ($2.000m) / Patrick Wey ($0.640m)
John Erskine ($1.963m) / Jack Hillen ($0.700m)
GOALTENDERS
Braden Holtby ($1.850m)
G Back-up ($1.000m)
FIRST PP
Johansson / Backstrom / Fehr / Ovechkin
Carlson
SECOND PP
Kuznetsov / Stastny / Ward / Ovechkin
Green
FIRST PK
Chimera / Ward
Alzner / Carlson
SECOND PK
Beagle / Laich
Ehrhoff / Orlov
BUYOUTS
Jeff Schultz ($0.000m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$150,000
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,113,462; BONUSES: $2,631,667
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $886,538

This is significantly better than last year.

P.S. Maybe Hillen - Orlov is an even better third pairing. For those two games before Hillen goes down with a long-term injury.

 

[Underpants2]

So far, Teds puppet has failed his first two tests: no Laich buyout, no moves made at the draft.

July 1st is his next test, and I have zero faith in him, or the rest of this management to improve this team.

More of the same it appears.

Shame when a Defense including both Poti and Schultz considered the good old days.

 

[caps4cup]

Trade Green + Johansson for E. Kane + Stuart
Resign Grabo or sign Legwand
Sign Ehrhoff, Niskanen/Stralman

Kuznetsov-Backstrom-Ovechkin
Kane-Legwand-Brouwer
Chimera-Laich-Ward
Fehr-Latta-Wilson

Ehrhoff-Carlson
Alzner-Niskanen/Stralman
Stuart-Orlov

Holtby

 

[fedfed]

Trade Green + Johansson for E. Kane + Stuart
Resign Grabo or sign Legwand
Sign Ehrhoff, Niskanen/Stralman

Kuznetsov-Backstrom-Ovechkin
Kane-Legwand-Brouwer
Chimera-Laich-Ward
Fehr-Latta-Wilson

Ehrhoff-Carlson
Alzner-Niskanen/Stralman
Stuart-Orlov

Holtby

To the bolded, do we hold Jets GM hostage to get him agree to that?

Overall, this roster can be summed up by one sentence: salary cap is overrated.

 

[ChibiPooky]

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Brooks Laich ($4.500m) / Nicklas Backstrom ($6.700m) / Alex Ovechkin ($9.538m)
Eric Fehr ($1.500m) / Marcus Johansson ($2.000m) / Troy Brouwer ($3.667m)
Jason Chimera ($2.000m) / Evgeny Kuznetsov ($0.900m) / Joel Ward ($3.000m)
Chris Brown ($0.853m) / Michael Latta ($0.786m) / Tom Wilson ($0.894m)
Jay Beagle ($0.900m) / Aaron Volpatti ($0.575m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Christian Ehrhoff ($7.000m) / John Carlson ($3.967m)
Karl Alzner ($2.800m) / Matt Niskanen ($5.500m)
Dmitry Orlov ($2.000m) / Mike Green ($6.083m)
John Erskine ($1.963m) /
GOALTENDERS
Braden Holtby ($1.850m)
Justin Peters ($0.750m)
BUYOUTS
Jeff Schultz ($0.000m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$150,000
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,875,961; BONUSES: $2,371,667
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): -$875,961

Hillen in the minors. Move Erskine and it works (just barely). Ehrhoff and Niskanen projected high dollar.

 

[caps4cup]

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Brooks Laich ($4.500m) / Nicklas Backstrom ($6.700m) / Alex Ovechkin ($9.538m)
Eric Fehr ($1.500m) / Marcus Johansson ($2.000m) / Troy Brouwer ($3.667m)
Jason Chimera ($2.000m) / Evgeny Kuznetsov ($0.900m) / Joel Ward ($3.000m)
Chris Brown ($0.853m) / Michael Latta ($0.786m) / Tom Wilson ($0.894m)
Jay Beagle ($0.900m) / Aaron Volpatti ($0.575m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Christian Ehrhoff ($7.000m) / John Carlson ($3.967m)
Karl Alzner ($2.800m) / Matt Niskanen ($5.500m)
Dmitry Orlov ($2.000m) / Mike Green ($6.083m)
John Erskine ($1.963m) /
GOALTENDERS
Braden Holtby ($1.850m)
Justin Peters ($0.750m)
BUYOUTS
Jeff Schultz ($0.000m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$150,000
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,875,961; BONUSES: $2,371,667
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): -$875,961

Hillen in the minors. Move Erskine and it works (just barely). Ehrhoff and Niskanen projected high dollar.

Ehrhoff isn't costing 7mil. Probably 4.5-5.5.

 

[ChibiPooky]

Ehrhoff isn't costing 7mil. Probably 4.5-5.5.

The point is that if they want to go after both, they can. I don't care about the exact dollar figures wrt making that point.

 

[Blades of Steel]

There is no way that we don't at least attempt to sign Ehrhoff , whether we get him or not.

 

[Chokingdogs]

There is no way that we don't at least attempt to sign Ehrhoff , whether we get him or not.

like they attempted to with chara?

 

[SimplySensational]

Hey guys, how about we give next years 1st + Johansson for Ehrhoff? Sounds like a great plan!

Then maybe a 2nd + Kuznetsov for Klesla!

On topic, Buffalo needs to get up to the floor, give them Laich.

 

[Carlzner]

Hey guys, how about we give next years 1st + Johansson for Ehrhoff? Sounds like a great plan!

Then maybe a 2nd + Kuznetsov for Klesla!

On topic, Buffalo needs to get up to the floor, give them Laich.

As expected, you have no grasp on the situation regarding the Ehrhoff buyout.

 

[SimplySensational]

As expected, you have no grasp on the situation regarding the Ehrhoff buyout.

Yes I do. People were making a ridiculous offer for a player that had a full NMC and the worst recapture penalty out there.

 

[Chokingdogs]

Hey guys, how about we give next years 1st + Johansson for Ehrhoff? Sounds like a great plan!

Then maybe a 2nd + Kuznetsov for Klesla!

On topic, Buffalo needs to get up to the floor, give them Laich.

for their 1st! done and done. lol

actually, not that greedy, their 2nd.

sunshine and roses all over.

 

[EroCaps]

Trade Mike Green for a C or assets to get a C.

Sign one of Erhoff/Niskanen and a veteran third pairing guy.

Trade for a C.

I'll laugh until I cry if they simply sign a defenseman and someone like David Legwand. It'd be EXACTLY what McPhee would have done.

 

[Cush]

What time does FA start on Tues?

 

[SimplySensational]

what time does fa start on tues?

12 et

 

[CapsJunkie]

I love Johansson...I think he has a great deal of upside.. I would rather see him as our second line center then anyone else, I would rather see him get traded for a 7th round pic then watch him on the first line trying to pass to a triple teamed Ovi because Backstrom and Mojo absolutely will not shoot and every other team knows this

 

[Halpysback*]

Ehrhoff was bought out because his trade value was 2x as much as Johansson + 1st and nobody would pay it up

 

[Mothra]

Ehrhoff was bought out because his trade value was 2x as much as Johansson + 1st and nobody would pay it up

Then how exactly was that his trade value?

 

[BrettXNA*]

Trade Mike Green for a C or assets to get a C.

Sign one of Erhoff/Niskanen and a veteran third pairing guy.

Trade for a C.

I'll laugh until I cry if they simply sign a defenseman and someone like David Legwand. It'd be EXACTLY what McPhee would have done.

gmgm and gmbm were and are nothing more than puppets for ted/dick.
Do just barely enough to convince the stupider fans (of which there alot) that you are serious about being a contender so the ticket/merchandise sales keep up.
Ted has never been serious about winning with the Capitals and never will be. The asinine gm and head coaching hires this summer prove that once and for all.

 

[Halpysback*]

Then how exactly was that his trade value?

Cause Buffalo had to factor the 10 mil recapture at the end in, and they had to factor it in as a certainty. Thus his trade value would have to be his BTV (Base Trade Value) + RDV (Recapture Damage Value). So if you had a top 2 defenseman at a 4 million a year cap hit, and trading him also meant a 10 million dollar hole blown square in the middle of your roster down the road when you planned to be competitive, how much would you want back for him to make it worth it?

 

[Halpysback*]

gmgm and gmbm were and are nothing more than puppets for ted/dick.
Do just barely enough to convince the stupider fans (of which there alot) that you are serious about being a contender so the ticket/merchandise sales keep up.
Ted has never been serious about winning with the Capitals and never will be. The asinine gm and head coaching hires this summer prove that once and for all.

Hencefrom GMBM will be known as GMDP, aka GM Dick Puppet