OT: 99th Obsequious Banter Thread: The Great One

[Hollywood Cannon]

I loved the Aol chat rooms....I remember going on there initially to mess with people. It was funny getting booted off by moderators over such benign stuff compared to now. I remember I met my first online long distance love interest in some chatroom. She was from Michigan. I finally got a pic from her and then probably did my first ghosting action before it was even known as that...lol. It was back around 1998 or 99 when I had my Gateway computer and dial up....

Hate to break it to you... she was a dude.

 

[Embiid]

Hate to break it to you... she was a dude.

Nah.....if it was a dude I doubt they would have sent that bad pic of a female. She just wasn't all that good looking. At that time it was all new to everybody even the catfishers. The dishonesty didn't take long though.

 

[ajgoal]

Well given that people are paying less and less attention while driving I'll take computers over people.

Computers are amazing at computational analysis but they struggle when it comes to discernment especially when it comes to computer vision. I suppose long term they can do decision making with a very complicated tree but it's not very easy to do. Certainly giving the computer stronger algorithms to aggregate data would be useful there.

The idea that AI would make a decision to eradicate the human race isn't really that far fetched of an idea. Humans are a blight on this planet compared to every other species.

Heck almost every topic now has some direct tie to political policy but let's avoid that.

I'm more concerned about electrical vs. mechanical control of a vehicle. Take the gear shift. Some cars now use a knob run through the computer to control the transmission. The physical linkage between the shifter and the transmission is gone. It just seems like a bad idea to take that mechanical control away and put it in the hands of a computer that could glitch or short. This goes the same for vehicles that use a traditional shift lever without a physical linkage. How do you shift into neutral for a tow if there's no power to the computer?

 

[Asnito]

I'm more concerned about electrical vs. mechanical control of a vehicle. Take the gear shift. Some cars now use a knob run through the computer to control the transmission. The physical linkage between the shifter and the transmission is gone. It just seems like a bad idea to take that mechanical control away and put it in the hands of a computer that could glitch or short. This goes the same for vehicles that use a traditional shift lever without a physical linkage. How do you shift into neutral for a tow if there's no power to the computer?

I get what you're saying but airplanes went through the same thing, albeit for different reasons

 

[ajgoal]

I get what you're saying but airplanes went through the same thing, albeit for different reasons

Aircraft are also ostensibly checked more thoroughly, more regularly, with fewer in operation at any given time in any given space.

That said, I would still consider removing mechanical controls from aircraft similarly.

 

[dragonoffrost]

Aircraft are also ostensibly checked more thoroughly, more regularly, with fewer in operation at any given time in any given space.

Someone probably hasn't flown into Atlanta when they are doing triple lands and triple takeoffs.... Holy scary situation.

 

[dragonoffrost]

Hate to break it to you... she was a dude.

2nd floor: Hardware. Children's wear, Lady's Lingerie....

 

[DayoftheGreek]

The concept of self driving cars seems like it will work MUCH better the more people adopt them. Imagine them all talking to each other and connected making decisions as a group to avoid accidents, traffic, shift lanes early to avoid construction or trucks.. Kinda scary but I wouldn't be surprised if you get 3x the throughput of a highway. Just imagine a morning commute where people could actually merge.

 

[dragonoffrost]

The concept of self driving cars seems like it will work MUCH better the more people adopt them. Imagine them all talking to each other and connected making decisions as a group to avoid accidents, traffic, shift lanes early to avoid construction or trucks.. Kinda scary but I wouldn't be surprised if you get 3x the throughput of a highway. Just imagine a morning commute where people could actually merge.

That requires the person programming them to not be the person who waits to the last possible second to merge!

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

 

[DayoftheGreek]

That requires the person programming them to not be the person who waits to the last possible second to merge!

Or the person who comes to a full stop at the end of the ramp until there is a mile of no traffic.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Apparently buses full of Russian soldiers are showing up to hospitals with effects from the radiation there.

The so called genius ordered them to do it.

 

[BernieParent]

"Oh, hey, a cute kitten video ..."

"I've really got to get back to work!!!"

 

[Beef Invictus]

NOT EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE SMART. MAKE IT STOP.

Is that an Effin Birds calendar?

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Is that an Effin Birds calendar?

Yes. Yes it is.

 

[Schwarbomb]

The so called genius ordered them to do it.

They didn't care about the radiation in '86 either so it's par for the course.

 

[Amorgus]

I loved the Aol chat rooms....I remember going on there initially to mess with people. It was funny getting booted off by moderators over such benign stuff compared to now. I remember I met my first online long distance love interest in some chatroom. She was from Michigan. I finally got a pic from her and then probably did my first ghosting action before it was even known as that...lol. It was back around 1998 or 99 when I had my Gateway computer and dial up....

We borrowed some guy's Prodigy account and got it banned til the year 2000 for constantly impersonating the Chat Host in every room. Ghat Host, Chat IIost, every way we could come up with.

I also fell to the long interest love thing but through Firefly,which was like a proto MySpace. She ended up being a redneck racist POS and was probably at the Jan. 6th insurrection. Never have high hopes for a girl in rural Georgia.

 

[Lindberg]

I'm more concerned about electrical vs. mechanical control of a vehicle. Take the gear shift. Some cars now use a knob run through the computer to control the transmission. The physical linkage between the shifter and the transmission is gone. It just seems like a bad idea to take that mechanical control away and put it in the hands of a computer that could glitch or short. This goes the same for vehicles that use a traditional shift lever without a physical linkage. How do you shift into neutral for a tow if there's no power to the computer?

Electronics can experience soft errors but that's usually not too much of an issue with any sort of redundancy. That's why you don't do what Boeing did with the 737 max and sell a single sensor to customers.... From my understanding the ACAS system wasn't so much the issue as just the single sensor, lack of flight training simulator time, and lack of proper documentation. I don't know what they did to the ACAS system but I believe it's significantly less "error" prone.

So how do you feel about the hydraulic and vacuum systems that control most automotive brakes? The electrical systems eventually still have to move a physical linkage... it's just done with solenoids instead of some fabricated bracket/linkage. Modern cars are still significantly more reliable, safer, easier to drive, and more powerful due to electronics.

Tow? Who tows a car anymore? Put it on a flatbed and be done with it. That being said I'm sure there's still some physical way to put it in neutral.

 

[Lindberg]

That requires the person programming them to not be the person who waits to the last possible second to merge!

Actually that would be the opposite of what you want.

Proper merging acts like a zipper. So yes you want the person programming them to be the person who waits to the last possible second to merge.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

They didn't care about the radiation in '86 either so it's par for the course.

Yeah, that Doc about that is really good. Sad what those people went through due to incompetence

 

[ajgoal]

Electronics can experience soft errors but that's usually not too much of an issue with any sort of redundancy. That's why you don't do what Boeing did with the 737 max and sell a single sensor to customers.... From my understanding the ACAS system wasn't so much the issue as just the single sensor, lack of flight training simulator time, and lack of proper documentation. I don't know what they did to the ACAS system but I believe it's significantly less "error" prone.

So how do you feel about the hydraulic and vacuum systems that control most automotive brakes? The electrical systems eventually still have to move a physical linkage... it's just done with solenoids instead of some fabricated bracket/linkage. Modern cars are still significantly more reliable, safer, easier to drive, and more powerful due to electronics.

Tow? Who tows a car anymore? Put it on a flatbed and be done with it. That being said I'm sure there's still some physical way to put it in neutral.

Admittedly a lot of my distrust probably stems from the impressively bad results of Abrams computers gone haywire. When they started adding more computers, things didn't always get better.

 

[Lindberg]

Admittedly a lot of my distrust probably stems from the impressively bad results of Abrams computers gone haywire. When they started adding more computers, things didn't always get better.

All that stuff is/was built by the lowest bidder.

I'm sorry "lowest technically acceptable bidder"

 

[Flybynite]

The so called genius ordered them to do it.

I was reading some other stuff on that a day or two ago and apparently the Russian commanders actually had the soldiers DIGGING DITCHES IN RADIOACTIVE SOIL in the "Red Forest" without any kind of protection.

 

[Asnito]

I was reading some other stuff on that a day or two ago and apparently the Russian commanders actually had the soldiers DIGGING DITCHES IN RADIOACTIVE SOIL in the "Red Forest" without any kind of protection.

According to Ukraine they have withdrawn from Chernobyl and the city that houses the employees who work there. Hopefully they didn't booby trap the complex.

 

[Asnito]

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