GDT: 9/21/19 - 8:00PM EDT - Tampa Bay @ Nashville [Preseason Game 4]

[TheFurryPickle]

wtf are you doing

 

[Hoek]

f*** Duchene man.

 

[Lord Stan 2020]

blah hell volkov looked to stop skating full speed in neutral zone on that earlier and if skates right easy goal smdh

 

[ccman68]

Someone tell the crowd this isn't the playoffs.

 

[DFC]

Actually, I think most of us are simply saying that he's not NHL ready yet rather than he's 'bad.' He does show some nice flashes of talent but could use more seasoning in the AHL and a bit more work with Barb Underhill.

I didn't even expect him to make the team. I just thought he'd be closer than this. I'm not seeing much difference over what he was in camp last year, although I know I read about his game coming along nicely in the A. I'll trust that for sure. It just hasn't played out that way in pre-season. He's always a little, or a lot, behind what we're hoping.

But Nolan really does look closer. I realize it's a small sample size for someone who only watched a couple of AHL games last year.

 

[DFC]

**** it. This way we get to see what a few kids have in open space. The Preds have a lot more of their NHL team on the ice tonight. We knew we'd be outclassed. The big night by Verhaeghe is enough to make it a good game.

 

[Lord Stan 2020]

I didn't even expect him to make the team. I just thought he'd be closer than this. I'm not seeing much difference over what he was in camp last year, although I know I read about his game coming along nicely in the A. I'll trust that for sure. It just hasn't played out that way in pre-season. He's always a little, or a lot, behind what we're hoping.

But Nolan really does look closer. I realize it's a small sample size for someone who only watched a couple of AHL games last year.

i see same thing per my sources plan was at least 2 months to work on power play in ahl obviously that was nice and he needs to work on more then that he needs confidence he needs to be more authoritive

 

[TeslaCoilFan]

Whohoo! 3 on 3 with all the young'ins!! Should be some fast fun!!

Edited: Okay, I expected fast but not THAT fast.

 

[TheFurryPickle]

jesus christ

sakc the coach

 

[ccman68]

They're probably raising a banner for this win

 

[DFC]

i see same thing per my sources plan was at least 2 months to work on power play in ahl obviously that was nice and he needs to work on more then that he needs confidence he needs to be more authoritive

I don't like that he looks soft. But, for me, the skating it the thing I wish had improved. It's going to have to before he can play in the NHL, and we might need that to happen next year. Consider that trading Sergachev is more than realistic. We're gonna need somebody to step up.

 

[Lord Stan 2020]

ill take it wateva one period watched only some things noticed speed was good vokov verhaegh and jo some good stuff imho really liked us being all over them in their side of ice

 

[Fabiobest]

The final recap is: the complete roster of the Nashville Predators needs the OT to defeat a team full of AHL (and maybe less...) prospects.
But they're good, they said...

 

[DFC]

Okay, whatever.

The roster is still shaping up the same. Verhaeghe and Volkov have an inside track to the team. Verhaeghe obviously looked good. If he can play 3C, Cirelli can be a top-sixer.

 

[Hoek]

Pretty good showing considering it was an AHL roster playing against NHLers AND the refs.

 

[Lord Stan 2020]

I don't like that he looks soft. But, for me, the skating it the thing I wish had improved. It's going to have to before he can play in the NHL, and we might need that to happen next year. Consider that trading Sergachev is more than realistic. We're gonna need somebody to step up.

sergy is playing great hockey i hate to say it simplified game no holding puck moves it very fast outlets and shoots from everywhere he gets pucks and gets pucks through since no thought .... worlds and this im seeing a changed sergy.... mistakes bad d can take if he stays this simple and stays this aggressive my two cents... foote has not looked comfortable cal that is think is third game timid not hitting much and not aggressive at all seems overwhelmed but he is 20 i think .... he has the talent if he gets out of his own head imho

 

[TheDaysOf 04]

I’ve never really paid attention during preseason before. What do you mean “3rd out of 4”? Can they only play 4 preseason games?

Just that some of the kids were getting in a lot of game action. Some players haven't played, and some have only been in 1 game so far.

 

[DFC]

Just that some of the kids were getting in a lot of game action. Some players haven't played, and some have only been in 1 game so far.

I suspect we'll see all the "Let's Get a Look" players demoted in the morning. Roster has to start shaping up now, I think.

 

[These Are The Days]

I suspect we'll see all the "Let's Get a Look" players demoted in the morning. Roster has to start shaping up now, I think.

This might sound counter-intuitive but I hope Nolan Foote can be a final cut so to speak. Not that I'd expect him to make the team but I have to imagine a few more games with the Lightning against other team's AHL players has to be of better experience than immediately going back to Kelowna to beat up a bunch of teenagers.

 

[HoseEmDown]

Haven't watched any of the games or even highlights so not sure how Cal has actually looked. But I said after he was drafted he needed 3 years before he would be ready for the NHL and he is on track for that, should get a cup of coffee this year. He's been a slow starter before so I wouldn't be too worried. It took him a good month or two last year before he felt comfortable in the AHL then he looked like our best D on most nights. He might be the defensive version of Palat in that regard. I wasn't expecting him to make the team anyway so him not looking great isn't a concern, I hope they keep him up all the way through camp and get him more games, he needs to see that NHL speed and physicality so he knows what to work on.

Not surprised to see Verheaghe looking good. Kid definitely should be on the team, much better offensively than anybody on our 4th line. He's really come a long way since we got him, worked hard on his weak areas and made himself an NHL caliber player. As for Barré-Boulet I wouldn't say he's just a PP specialist but I think he's been hyped way too much by sum. He did get a ton of PP points but he also did play with our best AHL forwards a lot too. He always had a Conacher, Andreoff or Verheaghe on the ice with him. You still need to finish your chances and he did so you can't take that away but he needs to show he can do it a bit on his own.

 

[Lord Stan 2020]

really good stuff hose and yes i remember they sat down cal and had a talk on what to work on first month in ahl etc... and then he started getting better at one point i agree he was our best player..... my thing is game one was a mess stream what could see is he looked and played super nervous game two he had some moments he actually in my belief blocked six shots in 2 minutes without a goalie so probably 40 seconds was crazy stuff lol.... third game again seemed to back up back off like not fully thinking ok get puck what next type of thing.... i think he will be close to elite if not elite d man he just really needs to get out of his own head probably... met and seen people like this in past.... when he gets his confidence becomes what his god gifts allows him he should really shine.... to not be ready this year is not a concern or at this time for me.... now nolan is noticeable for me part of that is want killer shiipped out sometime after this year so hoping he can take his spot myself and be a true power forward moving forward.... verheagh and volkov have been better.... again stephens hes an assassin like palat might not show up everywhere and you might forget him at times but man he has skillz to play 200foot game....so put it on those three for one spot with smith hoping gets a role so can have a feisty fourth line as needed and a speed fourth line..... for my two cents paq smith maroon I LOVE IT and then run our paq jo and verhaegh? ya that might shine against soft teams

 

[DFC]

Haven't watched any of the games or even highlights so not sure how Cal has actually looked. But I said after he was drafted he needed 3 years before he would be ready for the NHL and he is on track for that, should get a cup of coffee this year. He's been a slow starter before so I wouldn't be too worried. It took him a good month or two last year before he felt comfortable in the AHL then he looked like our best D on most nights. He might be the defensive version of Palat in that regard. I wasn't expecting him to make the team anyway so him not looking great isn't a concern, I hope they keep him up all the way through camp and get him more games, he needs to see that NHL speed and physicality so he knows what to work on.

Yeah. The concern with Foote, if it even is a concern, is that his skating hasn't improved all that much. At least not in ex games. Last night he looked like the worst skater on the team, and it's hard to imagine him in the NHL before that improves. I mean, that was always the case with him, I know, which is why I think it's a bit of a concern. Because it doesn't seem to have come as far as we, or at least I, would have hoped. Masin looked like he belonged much, much more in the games I saw. And I guess I'd just hoped Foote would have overtaken him by now.

All that said, I definitely think the AHL assessments are much more accurate than anything I--who will never have a scouting job, for good reason--might pick up in an exhibition game. So if reports are coming back that he's knocking on the door, I'll believe them.

But he really looks clumsy on skates. And kind of soft.

Not surprised to see Verheaghe looking good. Kid definitely should be on the team, much better offensively than anybody on our 4th line. He's really come a long way since we got him, worked hard on his weak areas and made himself an NHL caliber player. As for Barré-Boulet I wouldn't say he's just a PP specialist but I think he's been hyped way too much by sum. He did get a ton of PP points but he also did play with our best AHL forwards a lot too. He always had a Conacher, Andreoff or Verheaghe on the ice with him. You still need to finish your chances and he did so you can't take that away but he needs to show he can do it a bit on his own.

Verhaeghe has looked better than Volkov so far, IMO. Kind of a solid, balanced skillset (from what limited action I've seen), and instincts that Jon Cooper is going to like. Seems to make a lot of simple, but effective plays, but also has a skillset to make big plays when something opens up for him. Cirelli looks great right now, and Verhaeghe at 3C would allow us to use Cirelli as a top-six option, which might be critical if the Point situation drags out.

Weren't the reports on ABB always that he's an opportunistic scorer? Like, he's invisible, but then pops up to score a goal? So far we're only seeing the invisible part, but that's to be expected, I think.

Anyway. As always, Hose, I appreciate your insight.

 

[VinikToWinIt]

 

[Boltswin]

I watched the game but I don’t remember this happening