Post-Game Talk: 6 Bells and a loss in St-Louis for the Habs

[BLONG7]

Great game by Slaf. Keep him on the top line.

He did have a nice game..................................but Matheson, wow tough night all around for him.

 

[BLONG7]

We lost, oh well, on to the next one. In other news, the Leafs lost their 4th in a row and Edmonton with two of the best players in the league are a tire fire and we don't have anything on the roster that compares to those two teams.

Govt to call an inquiry to the Leafs 4 game losing streak!! Gino Reda on suicide watch....Kypreos hospitalized with panic attacks....
Can you imagine the Oilers tire fire, if McJesus ever says he wants out!!

 

[FloJack]

He's become Petry on his last season as a hab

The last 3-4 games Matheson is worse than anytime Petry was a Hab. I've been joking to myself that he's finally playing like all the exaggerators say he does.

 

[FloJack]

I’m not loving the Newhook pick. He’s great in open ice when he can put on his afterburners but the second he’s in traffic he’s useless. Also his passes are way off. Not sure what’s needed to bring him back to his Boston college Vancouver giants production and potential.

It took ten plus games for Dach to start looking better last season too, so I am still holding out hope for Newhook as it's early and he's on a new team. Didn't help that the Plan A for him went out the window with Dach's knee in the second game of the season.

 

[larek]

The last 3-4 games Matheson is worse than anytime Petry was a Hab. I've been joking to myself that he's finally playing like all the exaggerators say he does.

I know - u would swear he was Bobby Orr and Serge Savard in one !! LoL

 

[The Real Timo]

Whipped by an average team. Reality starting to set in. Loss against a bad team in Arizona. Looking at the draft again this year.

Hope we can draft more defensemen.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

So Caufield hasn't score in 4 straight games... Where's the lynch mob?

He’s getting chances. 4 games is no biggie as long as he’s generating chances to score. He’s also a point per game.

 

[Miller Time]

It took ten plus games for Dach to start looking better last season too, so I am still holding out hope for Newhook as it's early and he's on a new team. Didn't help that the Plan A for him went out the window with Dach's knee in the second game of the season.

You'd think it was a given that we'd be inclined to wait more than 10 games before deciding Newhook's future impact lol

Crazy how impatient some are.

 

[The Real Timo]

Slaf has a good game and that's the headline Habs story on the pulp tabloid like LJM -

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2023/11/05/cest-triste-mais-cest-ca--apres-50-matchs-slafkovsky-est-dans-le-top-4-des-pires-premiers-choix-en-50-ans

Lol... labrador adolescent

 

[Rapala]

The most penalized team in the league didn't take a penalty, had 4 pps and still lost.

You gotta start looking at Burrows and have agreed to not renew his contract.

I had to stop watching. I got totally pissed when there were no adjustments on the PP. Slaf playing well should have been bumped Matheson and Anderson playing ill should have been dumped. 5 guys with no reps together could have done a better job. I was not and am not amused. The lack of execution on basic plays is not acceptable at this level.

 

[Adriatic]

Some here might be on suicide watch seeing Gallagher have as many goals as Caulfield lol.

 

[morhilane]

Slaf has a good game and that's the headline Habs story on the pulp tabloid like LJM -

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2023/11/05/cest-triste-mais-cest-ca--apres-50-matchs-slafkovsky-est-dans-le-top-4-des-pires-premiers-choix-en-50-ans

Lol... labrador adolescent

That list is pointless without the TOIs.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Some here might be on suicide watch seeing Gallagher have as many goals as Caulfield lol.

If it’s February? Yes! But not November.

 

[The Real Timo]

That list is pointless without the TOIs.

I also think the Joe Thornton and Owen Nolan turned out alright. Damn, I wish Slaf would hit and fight like Nolan.

 

[Rapala]

Some here might be on suicide watch seeing Gallagher have as many goals as Caulfield lol.

Why the player was universally liked. It's not his fault Bergevin is a moron. All the power to Gally for anything positive he can eek out of his beat up frame.

 

[NotProkofievian]

He’s getting chances. 4 games is no biggie as long as he’s generating chances to score. He’s also a point per game.

I love that we finally have a player about whom people wonder ''what's wrong'' even if he's PPG.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I love that we finally have a player about whom people wonder ''what's wrong'' even if he's PPG.

Funny, I was thinking the same thing.

Four games without a goal and we’ve all noticed. When was the last time we had someone like that?

 

[Team_Spirit]

Matheson has been garbage for a few games now and it seem his solution is to try crazy shit instead of going back to basics. Bold strategy Cotton.

 

[morhilane]

I also think the Joe Thornton and Owen Nolan turned out alright. Damn, I wish Slaf would hit and fight like Nolan.

Thornton was playing ~8:00 minutes per game in his first season. I can't find the TOI for Nolan, but it was probably similar. Slaf was avg 12:13 minutes last year.

 

[The Real Timo]

Thornton was playing ~8:00 minutes per game in his first season. I can't find the TOI for Nolan, but it was probably similar. Slaf was avg 12:13 minutes last year.

BUUUUUST!!!!!

 

[SlafySZN]

CC will start scoring eventually he's 7th in the league with 47 SOG. His SH% is way lower than his average.

This

 

[The Real Timo]

Matheson has been garbage for a few games now and it seem his solution is to try crazy shit instead of going back to basics. Bold strategy Cotton.

Lol... I got the reference

Wouldn't it be coach's job to help him? Asking for a friend. Goes back to my "I don't know what these coaches actually do with the players/team".

 

[MilesNewton]

Lol... I got the reference

Wouldn't it be coach's job to help him? Asking for a friend. Goes back to my "I don't know what these coaches actually do with the players/team".

Probably need the players to listen, has he ever played a full season without injury?

 

[LaP]

That list is pointless without the TOIs.

The problem is NHL did not keep track of TOI in the 80ies-90ies. Excluding dmen for obvious reasons here's the list of the top 10 less productive forwards drafted first overall during their 50 first games and their TOI during their first season (doing the 50 games for the TOI was too much work for a sunday morning)

1990 Owen Nolan 6 points in 50 games, TOI unknown

1997 Joe Thornton 7 points in 50 games TOI of 8:05

2022 Juraj Slafkovsky 12 points in 50 games TOI of 12:13

1998 Vincent Lecavalier 17 points in 50 games TOI of 13:28

2020 Alexis Lafrenière 18 points in 50 games TOI of 13:53

1986 Joe Murphy 18 points in 50 games TOI unknown

2019 Jack Hughes 20 points in 50 games TOI of 15:52

2008 Steven Stamkos 20 points in 50 games TOI of 14:56

1999 Patrik Stefan 21 points in 50 games TOI of 14:49

1980 Doug Wickenheiser 24 points in 50 games TOI unknown

In this list only Stefan and Wickenheiser were really bad players. Lafrenière despite what most fans think the jury is still out imo. It's dangerous to conclude anything before the player is 23 which will be next year for AL (Kotkaniemi is 23 this season).

Joe Murphy was a disappointing 1st overall but he was still a good player and it was a weak draft. The best player of that draft (Brian Leetch) was drafted 9th overall and the 2nd best player (Damphousse) 6th overall. The whole top 5 missed and Murphy was probably the best in the top 5.

Nolan, Thornton, Lecavalier and Stamkos all had pretty good career and unless the sky falls or anything so will jack Hughes. People are panicking way too quickly. When he'll be getting close to 23 will be the time to panic and we are 3 years away from that.

 

[MilesNewton]

Lightening, Red Wings and Bruins coming up enough said.