Post-Game Talk: #57 FLYERS 5 at Wild 4, Tuesday, Feb. 12, 2019, 8:00 pm ET

[Magua]

We will never see that Ghost again. I watched that championship game, before he was injured Ghost was special.

Since his injury, he's smarter and more disciplined but lacks that special quality that opened up the ice for him in college and as a rookie.

He had 65 points last year. What was you expectation.......Bobby Orr?

College =\= NHL.

 

[Beef Invictus]

He had 65 points last year. What was you expectation.......Bobby Orr?

College =\= NHL.

Well Ghost isn't an all-time great so we should just trade him. He is to be singled out above all others for blame. Obviously.

 

[wankstifier]

Ghost's 11 minutes look like an aberration, rather than a trend.

Shayne Gostisbehere Stats and News

9 of his last 20 GS have been under 20 minutes in TOI.

When you consider that ~1/3 of that time is on the PP, that’s ~14-15 minutes averaged in 5v5 situations. That’s f***ing unacceptable

It’s been a pretty clear trend that Gostisbehere is scapegoated and undervalued.

 

[deadhead]

He had 65 points last year. What was you expectation.......Bobby Orr?

College =\= NHL.

Off his rookie season? Pretty close!
Ghost in college and as a rookie was an explosive smurf, he was leaving guys searching for their jocks all over the ice.
Last year he was more efficient, but the "thrill was gone."
This year I think the league has realized that and tries to pressure him, using the Pens' playoff blueprint.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Off his rookie season? Pretty close!
Ghost in college and as a rookie was an explosive smurf, he was leaving guys searching for their jocks all over the ice.
Last year he was more efficient, but the "thrill was gone."
This year I think the league has realized that and tries to pressure him, using the Pens' playoff blueprint.

And yet he's actually been solid in the corners and hasn't taken a beating, so that theory of yours isn't working out.

 

[baudib1]

Also Ghost was probably their best player vs. the Pens on Monday.

 

[Striiker]

Also Ghost was probably their best player vs. the Pens on Monday.

Then he has one bad period against the Wild and his icetime is SEVERELY cut. And he still ends with 2 points.

Meanwhile Hagg and Mac are consistently horrendous and suffer zero consequences.

 

[deadhead]

Hagg with Gudas has been horrendous, awful combination.
MacDonald has been a solid 3rd pair D-man since he came back to the lineup. Nothing special, but not a liability.
Sometimes people get stuck on a script and ignore reality.

 

[kudymen]

Sometimes people get stuck on a script and ignore reality.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

MacDonald has been a solid 3rd pair D-man since he came back to the lineup. Nothing special, but not a liability.

Yep. There’s really no argument that MacDonald has been their worst D this year.

There’s a huge gap between him and Hagg.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

I still can't get over the ref blowing the play dead on Patrick's "goal" against the Pens Monday night. That was just terrible.

It happens far too often in games around the league. No accountability with the officials at all. Supposedly they get graded for officiating the playoffs but it sure doesn’t seem like it most every year

 

[baudib1]

People can be forgiven if they're still scarred from 5 years of really bad play. But yes, MacDonald has finally played at the level of "well if he wasn't paid so much it wouldn't be so bad." It also helps that he's not getting the same TOI as he did under Hakstol.

He still needs to go, but Hagg needs to go faster.

 

[Curufinwe]

MacDonald is having his best possession season ever at +0.3 CF% Rel. He's never been a positive possession player before.

Andrew MacDonald Stats | Hockey-Reference.com

Hagg is at -6.9% for the 2nd year in a row which is incredible.

Robert Hagg Stats | Hockey-Reference.com