Post-Game Talk: #53: Sabres at Flyers, Thursday, February 11, 2016

[GapToothedWonder]

Thats Shawny Hill the in game arena host

Oooohhh that makes sense, still a hilariously stupid looking face.

 

[VanFlyer]

That was a clean hit... in 2000. It's now 2016. That was a textbook example of a hit that is simply unallowable in this day and age given what we now know about head trauma.

Call me a homer, but you shouldn't be looking at your feet / puck while skating through the neutral zone- regardless if engaged with a player or not. That is hockey 101. The only troubling thing is that Gudas did not need to blow him up given the score. However, there was bad blood going on the whole game and allot of smack talk. Gudas took a couple of dumb penalties earlier in the game and perhaps was a bit on the ornery side of things. I would blow him up too- regardless of score just because its buffalooooo. :0)

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

A little surprised Gudas didn't get a couple games for that hit.

 

[FlyersFan61290]

A little surprised Gudas didn't get a couple games for that hit.

IMO Gudas should have backed off given the circumstances but I'm not surprised really, he was low.

 

[Striiker]

Sorry bro, not arguing with either of you either way, but what you did is the literal definition of a strawman He does have you there

Upon further review, you are correct

I had been under the impression that a strawman is creating something completely different to argue against, not just creating an exaggerated version of their argument (since that's what I see people calling a strawman on here 99% of the time, I had never actually looked up the definition myself).

 

[Striiker]

Yeah since walking down a public street is the same as being the puck carrier in hockey.

Either way you're not expecting to have someone break the law/rules so the whole "personal responsibility" excuse doesn't really work.

If Gudas had laid him out with a legal hit, but caught the guy off guard, then you'd be right. He has to protect himself from legal hits but it's Gudas' responsibility to not break the rules.

 

[Curufinwe]

I'm OK with the charging call to keep the game from getting out of hand but as far as the headshot rules go it was a legal hit.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I think the problem with a lot NHL fans when it comes to breaking down these type of hits is that they treat it like the league has a zero tolerance head contact rule in place like other leagues do.

 

[GapToothedWonder]

I think the problem with a lot NHL fans when it comes to breaking down these type of hits is that they treat it like the league has a zero tolerance head contact rule in place like other leagues do.

Yeah I agree with this, in my own opinion I don't think that hit should be allowed. But in the NHL's mind and rulebook it's basically considered borderline

 

[Larry44]

Either way you're not expecting to have someone break the law/rules so the whole "personal responsibility" excuse doesn't really work.

If Gudas had laid him out with a legal hit, but caught the guy off guard, then you'd be right. He has to protect himself from legal hits but it's Gudas' responsibility to not break the rules.

What rule did he break? That was a clean hit in open ice. Should not have even been a penalty.

They might as well ban hitting altogether, make it a non-contact league. And pucks are dangerous too. They should switch to a softer rubber ring so no one gets hurt. And saw the stick blades off too. It'll be exciting!

http://www.ringette.ca/

 

[Striiker]

What rule did he break? That was a clean hit in open ice. Should not have even been a penalty.

They might as well ban hitting altogether, make it a non-contact league. And pucks are dangerous too. They should switch to a softer rubber ring so no one gets hurt. And saw the stick blades off too. It'll be exciting!

http://www.ringette.ca/

It was charging, I believe.

 

[hckyplayer8]

Either way you're not expecting to have someone break the law/rules so the whole "personal responsibility" excuse doesn't really work.

If Gudas had laid him out with a legal hit, but caught the guy off guard, then you'd be right. He has to protect himself from legal hits but it's Gudas' responsibility to not break the rules.

The facts are the hit was legal even based off the already strict rulebook.

The penalty was only given out based on poor officiating based on aftermath and lastly the cries of suspension from the majority now have people back peddling as they realize how soft it has become.

 

[kammy]

The facts are the hit was legal even based off the already strict rulebook.

The penalty was only given out based on poor officiating based on aftermath and lastly the cries of suspension from the majority now have people back peddling as they realize how soft it has become.

http://www.tsn.ca/talent/c-mon-ref-gudas-hit-was-needless-and-dangerous-1.437289

 

[kudymen]

There is no Post Game Talk for the Debs game and I dont know what to do