Post-Game Talk: 49ers at PATRIOTS - YUCK - Next up @Buffalo

[DangleCity]

The Krafts certainly know it. Those Giant rumors were all bullshit.

Whatever you say. I'm not going to argue over a source. Seemed you had no problem though earlier posting frivolous speculative articles about what teams might offer TB.for a contract.

 

[LSCII]

Whatever you say. I'm not going to argue over a source. Seemed you had no problem though earlier posting frivolous speculative articles about what teams might offer TB.for a contract.

I posted the teams that were all in on Brady. I could have grabbed any number of reports that said as much. I just grabbed the first one because it was easy. I also didn't say a thing about your source, that was another poster. I just said it was a crap rumor because Kraft wasn't going to let Bill walk. Regardless though, the rumors were initially that they would have to trade BB to the Giants, which indicates his contract status as being longer than one year.

 

[DangleCity]

I posted the teams that were all in on Brady. I could have grabbed any number of reports that said as much. I just grabbed the first one because it was easy. I also didn't say a thing about your source, that was another poster. I just said it was a crap rumor because Kraft wasn't going to let Bill walk. Regardless though, the rumors were initially that they would have to trade BB to the Giants, which indicates his contract status as being longer than one year.

I just thought it was telling that the first and only source you posted about Brady having several suitors was an ESPN article were team writers got together and speculated on what type of contract there team could offer Brady. If you have more sources, by all means I would love to see them.


BB probably 100% has outs in his contract for exact situations like this. Guy is not an idiot. I also dont think he would be taking calls and meeting with other teams if he had no way of getting out of his contract or even if he was under contract. BB saw this whole thing coming. I doubt he didnt leave himself an out

 

[Fenway]

Peter King is dumbfounded at how bad the Patriots are

 

[CDJ]

Jimmy isn’t good enough to warrant this much discussion, they won a super bowl after he was gone. I don’t think that happens with him at QB. As far as I’m concerned that erased any fear of losing that trade or any second thoughts I may have had

 

[DangleCity]

Jimmy isn’t good enough to warrant this much discussion, they won a super bowl after he was gone. I don’t think that happens with him at QB. As far as I’m concerned that erased any fear of losing that trade or any second thoughts I may have had

We will never know obviously about the SB, but if there was one SB that a QB other than Brady could win, it would be 2018, but I dont get the harsh reaction to calling Jimmy G and average QB that the Patriots would be better off with right now.

 

[CDJ]

We will never know obviously about the SB, but if there was one SB that a QB other than Brady could win, it would be 2018, but I dont get the harsh reaction to calling Jimmy G and average QB that the Patriots would be better off with right now.

would they be though? SF has an elite ground game, a good offensive line, and weapons. He wouldn’t have nearly as much support here. The team might be a little more mediocre, which is honestly a bad thing. They should either compete or suck and if they play like they have on both sides the last couple weeks then they are definitely not competing...

 

[KrejciMVP]

We will never know obviously about the SB, but if there was one SB that a QB other than Brady could win, it would be 2018, but I dont get the harsh reaction to calling Jimmy G and average QB that the Patriots would be better off with right now.

Ya Jimmy would have beat KC in KC to get to that game lol. Cmon

 

[Seidenbergy]

BB probably 100%

Probably 100%

Interesting

BB is now the sex panther of coaches.

 

[DangleCity]

would they be though? SF has an elite ground game, a good offensive line, and weapons. He wouldn’t have nearly as much support here. The team might be a little more mediocre, which is honestly a bad thing. They should either compete or suck and if they play like they have on both sides the last couple weeks then they are definitely not competing...

No one can admit hes even average. Its astonishing

 

[DangleCity]

Ya Jimmy would have beat KC in KC to get to that game lol. Cmon

I was talking about the actual SB game, but I see you're point.

 

[CDJ]

No one can admit hes even average. Its astonishing

It’s probably because they watched him piss away a super bowl his team carried him to

He is exactly average. The problem is he isn’t paid like he’s average and he gets injured.

 

[Seidenbergy]

No one can admit hes even average. Its astonishing

I can.

I define average as ranked 11-20 at his position. He's right around there I'd say.

 

[CDJ]

I can.

I define average as ranked 11-20 at his position. He's right around there I'd say.

yup, I have him 15-20 myself

 

[DangleCity]

It’s probably because they watched him piss away a super bowl his team carried him to

He is exactly average. The problem is he isn’t paid like he’s average and he gets injured.

69% cmp pct, 102 rating

 

[CDJ]

69% cmp pct, 102 rating

Piddled down leg in super bowl.


Cam also had pretty much those same numbers in his last season as a starter- I think it was 68% and 94, but with a running element- yet many people think he sucks too (because he too piddled down his leg in the super bowl)



so again how much of an upgrade would Jimmy really be? He himself got benched a couple weeks ago after coming back from an injury. Not all that different from Cam, he just played an ok game this week against a team who didn’t show up. Still threw two picks too

 

[LSCII]

I don’t know what to tell you if you think he’s the same coach as he was in Cleveland, it’s like thinking the Gleison Tibau fight is relevant when talking about Khabib’s skills now. Probably more irrelevant even since it was literally 25 years ago


Bet ya not many people around the league share the same view as you. 16-10 in NE with bad QB’s since the Brady era certainly isn’t indicative of a bad or average coach either. Unless he only won because of the roster construction (which “Bill the GM” put together but we all know he sucks so that can’t be the case, right?)

I'm pretty sure most folks here don't share the same view as me 95% of the time. It's okay. They generally come around to it later when they realize it was correct...

 

[LSCII]

Piddled down leg in super bowl.


Cam also had pretty much those same numbers in his last season as a starter- I think it was 68% and 94, but with a running element- yet many people think he sucks too (because he too piddled down his leg in the super bowl)



so again how much of an upgrade would Jimmy really be? He himself got benched a couple weeks ago after coming back from an injury. Not all that different from Cam, he just played an ok game this week against a team who didn’t show up. Still threw two picks too

Yep. If Jimmy G were here with the same cast, I think the results would be similar. Neither guy is a needle mover on their own.

 

[LSCII]

I can.

I define average as ranked 11-20 at his position. He's right around there I'd say.

I have him in the lower half of the league. Bottom 15-16 guy. Not far off from you, but he's certainly not above the halfway mark. His own pass happy head coach has taken the ball out of his hands.

 

[CDJ]

Yep. If Jimmy G were here with the same cast, I think the results would be similar. Neither guy is a needle mover on their own.

I would also kill to have the niners skill group, I’d feel way better about the rest of the season if the pats had them

 

[LSCII]

I would also kill to have the niners skill group, I’d feel way better about the rest of the season if the pats had them

Kittle alone would be our 3 best receiving options...

 

[N o o d l e s]

It’s probably because they watched him piss away a super bowl his team carried him to

He is exactly average. The problem is he isn’t paid like he’s average and he gets injured.

I agree but it’s kind of funny they lost that Super Bowl by not letting him throw. He was actually having a pretty solid game and then Shanahan Shanahaned

 

[DangleCity]

Piddled down leg in super bowl.


Cam also had pretty much those same numbers in his last season as a starter- I think it was 68% and 94, but with a running element- yet many people think he sucks too (because he too piddled down his leg in the super bowl)



so again how much of an upgrade would Jimmy really be? He himself got benched a couple weeks ago after coming back from an injury. Not all that different from Cam, he just played an ok game this week against a team who didn’t show up. Still threw two picks too

Yeah definitely didnt have a great SB, doesn't mean he was an abject failure and BB and McD couldnt scheme it up like the 9ers did and be very succesful with Jimmy

 

[LouJersey]

I would also kill to have the niners skill group, I’d feel way better about the rest of the season if the pats had them

football is @DKH second sport, but this guy has continually come up with better players draft time....

Samuel over Harry
Chubb over Michel
Kmet/Dobbins over Dugger
Goedert over Dawson (they traded down)
Metcalf over Williams

He is like Rainman when their pick is up lol

 

[DangleCity]

Yep. If Jimmy G were here with the same cast, I think the results would be similar. Neither guy is a needle mover on their own.

Depends, are we assuming Jimmy was here the last 4 years, or are we just dropping in Jimmy for this season?