Post-Game Talk: #43 | FLYERS (A) vs. Penguins (H) | Thursday, Apr. 15, 2021 | 2-1 win (2-1 SO)

[Striiker]

What precisely has Hagg done to lift either player?

Is it the way he never moves the puck? Is it the way he abandons his job to leave them alone defending rushes? Is it the way he's out of position and rarely prevents or suppresses passes or shots? His inability to create offense? His usual failure to win races or board battles? Is it the way his partners are always the defensive anchor of the pairing?

Pray tell, what is it that he specifically does that lifts them.

With his on-ice ability? Literally nothing.
What is this, most likely? A small sample.

Although what doesn't hurt is...

At 5v5...	Off. Zone Start %	Off. Zone Faceoff %
Sanheim overall	46.27	47.69
Sanheim WITH Hagg	63.16	67.57
Difference	+16.89	+20.88
Ghost overall	60.11	53.10
Ghost WITH Hagg	66.67	67.65
Difference	+6.56	+14.55

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Both have significantly higher rates with Hagg than with any other D partners and Hagg has a far higher % of offensive zone faceoffs than any other D on the roster.
It's not everything but it probably helps.

Great job by AV to maximize effectiveness by putting our worst offensive player in the offensive zone as much as possible.

 

[Beef Invictus]

I’m glad Patrick appears to be ok; maybe they can still trade him in the off-season now.

"Oh good, you're alright. Get the f*** out."

 

[deadhead]

Why would you trade a bottom six forward with top six upside who'll you'll be able to sign to a cheap bridge deal?

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Why would you trade a bottom six forward with top six upside who'll you'll be able to sign to a cheap bridge deal?

Because I think it’s a good idea to jettison low-motor, inconsistent players who don’t seem to have a thirst for the game. Patrick looks like he has absolutely no fun playing, & his interviews are the same.

The Flyers need to rid themselves of that type & bring in competitors with some energy & fire in their bellies.

I don’t care if Patrick blossoms elsewhere. He strikes me as the type of player who will always leave you wanting more. Better to just move on & let him be another team’s problem.

 

[Starat327]

Something tells me I'm glad I can't see whatever idiocy was proposed if even Deady isn't on board.

 

[baudib1]

If he keeps playing like he did tonight, he will score. Very noticeable in a positive way, and made a few good defensive reads too

I feel like I've watched the Flyers my whole life and seen guys who are new and seem to have some skill and pop and the Flyers turn them into a pile of turds.

Observational bias of course.

Ryan Hartman is the most obvious recent example. Long term, Ghost certainly fits.

 

[Beef Invictus]

I feel like I've watched the Flyers my whole life and seen guys who are new and seem to have some skill and pop and the Flyers turn them into a pile of turds.

Observational bias of course.

Ryan Hartman is the most obvious recent example. Long term, Ghost certainly fits.

Doing their utmost to smash and suppress Sanheim. And TK. For a minute, Couturier.

Destroying whatever offensive spark Hagg might have had when drafted so he can be "responsible" and reducing him to a pile of nothing.

A team that once prized flair, creativity, and skill now punishing those traits rather than fostering them.

 

[Garbage Goal]

I feel like that chart listing odds of every team at not making the playoffs while also not getting a high pick should be posted after every win now. Maybe loss too.

 

[Rebels57]

Any highlights of Allison from last night?

Flyers Film: Wade Allison impresses with hardworking performance in NHL debut

 

[Rebels57]

I feel like that chart listing odds of every team at not making the playoffs while also not getting a high pick should be posted after every win now. Maybe loss too.

I want losses combined with Hart getting on a roll and kids playing well. Best case scenario.

 

[Garbage Goal]

I want losses combined with Hart getting on a roll and kids playing well. Best case scenario.

I mean, yeah, but in true Flyers fashion they’ve pretty much killed odds of getting a high pick already. It’s also a year where nobody really knows what to expect with the draft so whatever I guess.

 

[Beef Invictus]

I want losses combined with Hart getting on a roll and kids playing well. Best case scenario.

Every loss a 10-9 affair where Hart has a .950

 

[Starat327]

Every loss a 10-9 affair where Hart has a .950

Just so were clear, you're expecting the Flyers to allow, at Minimum, 3.5 shots a minute throughout the game, which would essentially also require us to score 9 goals in like... 3 minutes?

 

[Beef Invictus]

Just so were clear, you're expecting the Flyers to allow, at Minimum, 3.5 shots a minute throughout the game, which would essentially also require us to score 9 goals in like... 3 minutes?

Correct.

Let's call it a high-event game.

 

[Starat327]

Correct.

Let's call it a high-event game.

I suppose the stretch passes would allow for minimal downtime due to the lack of skating...

 

[Striiker]

Just so were clear, you're expecting the Flyers to allow, at Minimum, 3.5 shots a minute throughout the game, which would essentially also require us to score 9 goals in like... 3 minutes?

Correct.

Let's call it a high-event game.

BDB would never allow that

 

[kudymen]

Edit - ah crap, sharing posts from LinkedIn doesn't work. It's absurd to be found on that network but there was a hilarious view of where the H was our others Dman during the pens goal