Golf: 42nd Ryder Cup at Le Golf National - September 28-30

[MrFunnyWobbl]

I hope this means Phil, Bryson and Bubba are taking Friday off. Don't like the idea of any of those three playing alternate shot.

No, he should put Bryson with Bubba and make them both wear mics. Mainly for comedy value. They would lose 10&8 though.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I haven't seen it excessively, but I'm loving the look of this course from a flyover of each holes. Can anyone tell me what the greens are like? Crazy undulations like August/Merion or flattish with simple breaking putts like Bethpage Black ?

Narrow fairways, long rough, slow and basic green complexes. That’s how Europe likes to set it up. The European Tour greens are almost always slower than the PGA Tour. The best American putters almost always struggle with their putting at the Open because of how slow the greens are.

 

[MrFunnyWobbl]

Narrow fairways, long rough, slow and basic green complexes. That’s how Europe likes to set it up. The European Tour greens are almost always slower than the PGA Tour. The best American putters almost always struggle with their putting at the Open because of how slow the greens are.

Really? Because intuitively I would think slow greens would mean better putting because you can be more aggressive.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Really? Because intuitively I would think slow greens would mean better putting because you can be more aggressive.

I think it comes out to the opposite. Everyone can be aggressive with slow greens without much break. It’s much harder to putt well when you have to match line and pace. The best putters almost always do better on faster greens with more slope. That’s why you see so many “putters” winning at ANGC historically. Tiger notoriously always struggles on slow greens, which you often get after it rains. Very often right after it rains he won’t get any of his putts to the hole. He’s not the only one either.

 

[MrFunnyWobbl]

I think it comes out to the opposite. Everyone can be aggressive with slow greens without much break. It’s much harder to putt well when you have to match line and pace. The best putters almost always do better on faster greens with more slope. That’s why you see so many “putters” winning at ANGC historically. Tiger notoriously always struggles on slow greens, which you often get after it rains. Very often right after it rains he won’t get any of his putts to the hole. He’s not the only one either.

I'm struggling to wrap my head around which the bolded refers to. Fast or slow greens?

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I'm struggling to wrap my head around which the bolded refers to. Fast or slow greens?

Fast.

There’s a bigger difference in putting ability between good and bad putters on fast greens with a lot of slope than slow greens without a lot of slope.

 

[Dr John Carlson]

Faster greens requires more touch to get the right speed, since it's generally easier to hit a putt 5 feet by on fast greens than to leave a putt 5 feet short on slow greens.

Basically, slow greens are preferable for bad putters in the same way that 99% of tour pros would prefer an uphill putt over a downhill putt of the same length.

 

[Say Hey Kid]

If I wasn't American, it would be fun to see the match play choke pairing of Phil and Tiger.

 

[MrFunnyWobbl]

Fast.

There’s a bigger difference in putting ability between good and bad putters on fast greens with a lot of slope than slow greens without a lot of slope.

Yeah I kinda put it together after I asked, but I'm braindead so it's not wonder it took that long. Course does look really nice though, I like the usage of water. Wouldn't mind playing it myself one day. Is it open to the public?

If I wasn't American, it would be fun to see the match play choke pairing of Phil and Tiger.

Phil shouldn't even be in this RC, he is washed. But I agree those two would not succeed.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

 

[MrFunnyWobbl]

Yeah easy for Furyk to hit fairways when he is driving 260 off the tee.

I would say Tigers stat there is misleading because a good chunk of the season he was spraying it off the tee like at the Honda, last couple events he really tidied it up and was hitting 50-80% of his fairways each round.

 

[joe89]

Olesen into water on 1st tee. Lol.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Olesen into water on 1st tee. Lol.

Casey follows him in with his second shot. Interesting first hole. You can't really get close if you miss the fairway.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Golf Channel's Open coverage is excellent. Their RC coverage is abysmal so far. Haven't seen more than a shot here or there from some of these matches.

 

[Soliloquy of a Dogge]

The constant commercials is infuriating. We are seeing very few shots.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

First shot of Thomas I've seen since the first hole. Hole 6. I guess these graphics are more important than showing the golf.

 

[Zibanejbread]

Told myself to be responsible and get some needed sleep, yet here I am, watching golf at 4 AM. Oops.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Amend that, there's no reason to see Thomas shots. His score isn't counting.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Americans are turning around some of these matches.

 

[Soliloquy of a Dogge]

At least we have some decently competitive matches. Now if only GC could improve the coverage we'd be set.

 

[joe89]

You never see as many holed chips as in the Ryder Cup.

Kinda going as expected right now.

 

[Zibanejbread]

Great chip in by Reed, but I hate that I have to root for him.

 

[Soliloquy of a Dogge]

Great chip in by Reed, but I hate that I have to root for him.

Just glad he finally got going. Been Tiger pulling the weight entirely in that pairing so far.

 

[Dr John Carlson]

I'm awake for this

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Europeans playing very bad golf right now.