32 year old lupul to disappear like robidas/no buyout
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I like Lou, he's ruthless, even with Brodeur... they ended on bad terms momentarily/but appear to have patched things up.
pucci2001
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He better dig em before he shows up with the bodies...otherwise he might have to dig a few more...before he knows it he will be there all night.
Seras
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Just play him. Who knows, maybe he'll actually produce next year. It's not like the Leafs will be getting any useful cap savings by putting Lupul on IR. They still have to be below 1.1x the salary cap in the off season, and will certainly have Robidas and Horton on LTIR next season.
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He is a waste. We'd be better off playing a prospect in his place. He is not even a mentor to anybody the way he plays the game.
He was a real good player when he was healthy a few years ago.
Too bad about his injuries and the fact he cared more about his hair than hockey.
Too bad about his injuries and the fact he cared more about his hair than hockey.
What are the Leafs options if Lupul shows up for camp, is healthy, and wants to play?
Robidas is a player who looked like he was done. Lupul I'm not so sure about. We have seen how well he can play at times if he is healthy.
None of this matters if he is breaking down to the point where he can't contribute, but if the player wants to play and the team won't let him, the player can make this a messy situation if he doesn't want to go quietly. And I wouldn't blame him. Of course, the Leafs could then send him to the Marlies (if he doesn't have a NMC - did our previous regime give him one?)
Robidas is a player who looked like he was done. Lupul I'm not so sure about. We have seen how well he can play at times if he is healthy.
None of this matters if he is breaking down to the point where he can't contribute, but if the player wants to play and the team won't let him, the player can make this a messy situation if he doesn't want to go quietly. And I wouldn't blame him. Of course, the Leafs could then send him to the Marlies (if he doesn't have a NMC - did our previous regime give him one?)
supermann_98
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You say this is concerning, but you fail to mention how exactly this is concerning as Leaf fans.
Lupul dissappearing next year like Robidas did this year is what I've been hoping for all season.
I'd put him on the Marlies and let him decide if this game of hockey is actually what he really wants to do.
I think he's more about the hockey-celebrity lifestyle and banging insane amounts of 10's at home or on the road.
Lupul dissappearing next year like Robidas did this year is what I've been hoping for all season.
I'd put him on the Marlies and let him decide if this game of hockey is actually what he really wants to do.
I think he's more about the hockey-celebrity lifestyle and banging insane amounts of 10's at home or on the road.
garce
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Lupul isn't the kind of guy to disappear. If Robidas is on a wink wink deal, and I have no idea if he is, that doesn't mean that Lou is some kind of magician who can sell that to Lupul. Lupuls a pretty free spirit type, I think, who would blow any collusion up in a second. No coaching his kids and then a job with benefits when the contract runs out.
hate lupul all u want but he can still be a 15-20 goal 15-20 assist per 82 game 3rd or 4th line player
even this year he played with no skilled players and was still on pace for about 20 goals if healthy
even this year he played with no skilled players and was still on pace for about 20 goals if healthy
Man Bear Pig
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The same writer who made false claims about Kessel eating hot dogs on a daily basis and numerous other embarrassing articles that aren't even worth wiping your butt with. Simmons is a troll. Calling him a hack is disrespectful to hacks.
WilliamNylander
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Me too...Maybe they offer him the same ultimatum as Robidas where you keep your pride and stay away for a year or you can ride the bus with the Marlies and honor your contract.
Either way, I don't see Lupul playing another game. We already have too many bodies and the Marlies need spots.
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There should be enough cap space to let him play out his contract or move him to a playoff team while eating a portion of his salary. Giving him the Robidas treatment seems wasteful and unnecessary.
cookie
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Can he? If you're a cap strapped team, on what basis do you sign him: his production pace or his 55 game seasons? He was a shell of his former self and has gone on record that he's changed his game because of how often he was getting hurt. Hard to get any value from a player like that.
every team has horrible contracts on their rosters that dont give them enough production to justify their price...u just dont make a healthy player disappear when hes on contract in the nhl, what the leafs are some magically unique hockey team unlike all others and can do these crazy different things?
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There is no way, that a player would just end up sitting, against their wishes. It would end up with the NHLPA so fast, your head would spin off.
But, if the team came to the player, and talked with them... here are your options... you are going to be bought out, or if your combined injuries are sufficient that you can no longer play to your ability, we can LTIR you.
So for Lupul, his buyout would be $6,000,000
If you LTIR him, he gets $10,500,000
If Lupul, after his hernia surgery, doesn't feel he can play good enough, and earn another $4,500,000, than it is highly probable he'd prefer the LTIR route.
It is probable that Robidas is in the same boat...
Ultimately, if a player is marginal as to whether they can play at the NHL level again, to their ability, it is highly likely they would prefer to take all of their cash, instead of a portion. Leaving $4,500,000 on the table is a pretty nice retirement fund.... that is, "if" this is even really being considered... and it's only being considered if his career is in jeopardy anyway.
But, if the team came to the player, and talked with them... here are your options... you are going to be bought out, or if your combined injuries are sufficient that you can no longer play to your ability, we can LTIR you.
So for Lupul, his buyout would be $6,000,000
If you LTIR him, he gets $10,500,000
If Lupul, after his hernia surgery, doesn't feel he can play good enough, and earn another $4,500,000, than it is highly probable he'd prefer the LTIR route.
It is probable that Robidas is in the same boat...
Ultimately, if a player is marginal as to whether they can play at the NHL level again, to their ability, it is highly likely they would prefer to take all of their cash, instead of a portion. Leaving $4,500,000 on the table is a pretty nice retirement fund.... that is, "if" this is even really being considered... and it's only being considered if his career is in jeopardy anyway.
So let them look into it.
What are they going to do? Force an injured player to lace up?
The league can have independent doctors assess a player. If they find that there is nothing medically wrong with a player and they're being kept on IR, they can decide on a suitable punishment. If Lou gets caught circumventing the cap, it won't be just a slap on the wrist.
Aparently robidas has been on IR not LTIR for the entire season. No cap circumventing implications there.
