Confirmed with Link: 2nd round - #35OA - LW Sebastian Aho - Karpat (FIN)

[SeaBasstian]

Don't love this pick especially with Harkins right there but we added Hanifin and Lack so I'll have to assume the scouting staff know what they're doing.

reading back through this thread.......who? and also......HAHAHAHHA

 

[Mestaruus]

So what kind of contract do you guys think Aho will get?

In my opinion he's one of the best players in the league so 9 million AAV with long term, maybe 6-8 years could be it? I see Aho as more valuable than another Finn whose contract is due, Mikko Rantanen.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

I'd be delighted if we can lock him up at 9x7.

 

[Stubu]

Sebastian is an awesome name.

That's all I got.

Unsustainable.

Seabass it is.

 

[Roboturner913]

I'm fine with 9 million at this point. At the rate he's progressing, a couple years from now, he might be an $11-12 million player. Lock him up now.

 

[Kaako Kappo]

His side will probably start from 8x10. 8x9 mil is a fair deal for both sides. Aho's a franchise players and those cost a lot of money.

 

[SaskCanesFan]

My God the numbers are getting out of hand quickly. I know you have to keep him for whatever he wants, but I feel like the "ok with" amount goes up close to a million a month lately. Where does it stop?

 

[Dishface]

TT signed a very friendly deal. I think and hope Aho does the same.

 

[DougieSmash]

Would love bargain one - something between 8.5-9.5. Not a fan of those +10 M contracts. Aho is great, he's franchise player but 11-12 M are a lot of money.

 

[Kaako Kappo]

My God the numbers are getting out of hand quickly. I know you have to keep him for whatever he wants, but I feel like the "ok with" amount goes up close to a million a month lately. Where does it stop?

He shifted to center and will finish the season with 80-90 points, plays PK too now. Of course the numbers get out of hand when a player shows such steady improvement. Look at what Buffalo paid Eichel. Marner and Rantanen will demand 10 mil, and Tkachuck is going to want a piece of the cake too. The prices are going up up up.

 

[NotOpie]

If you re-sign J-Willy to a 1 year, $4 million deal, sign our RFAs to reasonable deals, sign McStarter and Mrazek, and add a Ferland contract or Ferland replacement ($6 milion-ish), with a $9.5 million Aho contract, the team will spend over $76 million in payroll next season. I don't see that happening. I'm more inclined to believe that the internal cap is around $72 million to $73 million. That means that TVR and Faulk would need to go to make those numbers work.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

If you re-sign J-Willy to a 1 year, $4 million deal, sign our RFAs to reasonable deals, sign McStarter and Mrazek, and add a Ferland contract or Ferland replacement ($6 milion-ish), with a $9.5 million Aho contract, the team will spend over $76 million in payroll next season. I don't see that happening. I'm more inclined to believe that the internal cap is around $72 million to $73 million. That means that TVR and Faulk would need to go to make those numbers work.

I expect one or both of them will go. I expect they'll buy out Darling as well saving a couple million in real money.

Problem is, unless Necas or one of the other prospects are ready to be legit top 6 forwards, or in the trade for Faulk/TVR they get back a legit forward still on a cheap deal, that team still isn't good enough IMO.

 

[CanesFanBudMan]

I expect one or both of them will go. I expect they'll buy out Darling as well saving a couple million in real money.

Problem is, unless Necas or one of the other prospects are ready to be legit top 6 forwards, or in the trade for Faulk/TVR they get back a legit forward still on a cheap deal, that team still isn't good enough IMO.

If (big if at this point) we make the playoffs that boosts revenue by a decent amount per game. Maybe if 1) Dundon sees more money coming in during the playoffs, and 2) he sees how close we are to being a contender he will up that internal cap. He has said that he would be willing to spend money if the team was primed to compete.

Edit- just realized this is the Aho thread way OT

 

[CanesFanBudMan]

If (big if at this point) we make the playoffs that boosts revenue by a decent amount per game. Maybe if 1) Dundon sees more money coming in during the playoffs, and 2) he sees how close we are to being a contender he will up that internal cap. He has said that he would be willing to spend money if the team was primed to compete.

Edit- just realized this is the Aho thread way OT

Plus this t-shirt will be able to pay for Aho's contract . Thanks Don Cherry. Circled back and got back on topic.

 

[Lempo]

So. Bunch of jerks paying for Aho.

 

[MinJaBen]

Where does it stop?

When he signs.

 

[FreshSeabass]

What about a contract somewhere around 8.0M - 9.0M and tacking on bonuses each year to get to what he wants. That seems to be what everyone is doing nowadays.

 

[MinJaBen]

What about a contract somewhere around 8.0M - 9.0M and tacking on bonuses each year to get to what he wants. That seems to be what everyone is doing nowadays.

I don't think he'd be eligible for a contract with bonuses for his next contract. I think only ELC and over 35 years old contracts can do bonuses.

 

[GoldiFox]

Canes will get Aho at the bottom of his fair value. Which is increasing by the game. Right now I'd put that at Draisaitl's deal of 8 years x $8.5 million. I don't think it will go much higher than that barring a deep playoff run in which they should be happy to pay $9+ million.

 

[Lempo]

I don't think he'd be eligible for a contract with bonuses for his next contract. I think only ELC and over 35 years old contracts can do bonuses.

And the 35+ guys only on one year contracts to boot.

Some injury returnees filling a specific criteria also are allowed to negotiate for performance bonuses, but that's about it. Everyone else play with cost certainty.

 

[MinJaBen]

And the 35+ guys only on one year contracts to boot.

Some injury returnees filling a specific criteria also are allowed to negotiate for performance bonuses, but that's about it. Everyone else play with cost certainty.

Can we say he is returning from a nagging injury to his fast?

Edit: NM, I was confusing the discussion about Williams and Aho. No nagging fast injury to Aho.

 

[NotOpie]

I expect one or both of them will go. I expect they'll buy out Darling as well saving a couple million in real money.

Problem is, unless Necas or one of the other prospects are ready to be legit top 6 forwards, or in the trade for Faulk/TVR they get back a legit forward still on a cheap deal, that team still isn't good enough IMO.

Yup, forgot to mention that I also bought out Darling. Right now we're at $63 million in payroll (cap). Given the mixed message comments that TD has had, it might be hard to say definitively that he's going to increase the budget. However, given how close we are this season, I think he wants to ice a winner more than he wants to save a million or so. I think the team is going to ice 2 or 3 rookies (I'm count Necas as a rookie) next season, plus guys like Foegele, McGinn, and Maenalanen (or guys with comparable salaries). I'm skeptical that we upgrade at any forward position outside of Williams and/or Ferland (if they're not re-signed or replaced at comparable salaries). I believe much will be expected of Aho, TT, Svech, and Necas next year. I don't believe that Necas plays center next season either....so, in the spirit of the thread, I expect Aho to incrementally improve next season as well.

 

[FreshSeabass]

Then how was Matthews contract allowed to include signing bonuses each year? Auston Matthews - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

 

[the halleJOKEL]

signing bonuses, not performance bonuses

 

[Tryamw]

It's his bonus for signing spread over years the other bonuses are for performance. AFAIK these are forbidden except for ELC or post 35 year old.

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