Confirmed with Link: 2nd round - #35OA - LW Sebastian Aho - Karpat (FIN)

[FreshSeabass]

Ahh ok i wasn't sure how that worked i saw it with Matthews and Nylander contracts and figured the signing bonus each year was an additional amount they received each year to their base salaray. Basically so you could pay a player more but keep their cap hit lower.

 

[My Special Purpose]

Ahh ok i wasn't sure how that worked i saw it with Matthews and Nylander contracts and figured the signing bonus each year was an additional amount they received each year to their base salaray. Basically so you could pay a player more but keep their cap hit lower.

There's no way to do this anymore. The only reason for a signing bonus vs. salary is that a signing bonus is owed regardless of whether or not there are games played. In most pro sports leagues, this is largely irrelevant. But in the NHL under Gary Bettman, where games are tools to be used as leverage in negotiations, the players want to make sure they get paid even if a season is lost to the next labor dispute. Thus, signing bonus over salary.

But in terms of cap hits, the signing bonus is divided equally over the number of years and considered part of the AAV.

 

[SlavinAway]

Ahh ok i wasn't sure how that worked i saw it with Matthews and Nylander contracts and figured the signing bonus each year was an additional amount they received each year to their base salaray. Basically so you could pay a player more but keep their cap hit lower.

It is technically paid in addition to their base salary but if you look Matthews contract his base salary will "only" be $700-750k a year. Paying the rest in signing bonuses just guarantees the money in the event of a lockout. Signing bonuses are still counted in the cap hit as well.

 

[Lempo]

It is technically paid in addition to their base salary but if you look Matthews contract his base salary will "only" be $700-750k a year. Paying the rest in signing bonuses just guarantees the money in the event of a lockout. Signing bonuses are still counted in the cap hit as well.

Also the theory apparently goes that early money in hand is worth more, as the player can then invest the money to generate more income.

 

[Stubu]

If (big if at this point) we make the playoffs that boosts revenue by a decent amount per game. Maybe if 1) Dundon sees more money coming in during the playoffs, and 2) he sees how close we are to being a contender he will up that internal cap. He has said that he would be willing to spend money if the team was primed to compete.

Edit- just realized this is the Aho thread way OT

Not way OT. Imagine if Dundon and Aho sat down and had a talk about the future. I can't imagine the outcome, the last sci-fi movie I watched happened to be the "Black Hole" from 1979, so I digress and wait. But I predict $8m x 8yr with future considerations involving a Crocodile Dundon movie featuring Ferland as Donk, Turbo as the damsell in distress (in drag, obviously), and Aho as the awesome landscape with shrubbery that changes the game.

I just really wanted to place the 8x8 as my nostradamian prediction. 9x8, tops. 12x6, disappointed.

(In unrelated news, it's the week-long state sanctioned skiing holiday off-work thing in F', which hardly affects post quality here. Ask Lempo.)

EdT: Please stop responding to this and asking me for advise. It's already March. We have snow here! I can't help you. Paying customers only.

 

[SlavinAway]

That’s not a storm surge... THIS is a Storm Surge.

 

[Roboturner913]

Not way OT. Imagine if Dundon and Aho sat down and had a talk about the future. I can't imagine the outcome, the last sci-fi movie I watched happened to be the "Black Hole" from 1979, so I digress and wait. But I predict $8m x 8yr with future considerations involving a Crocodile Dundon movie featuring Ferland as Donk, Turbo as the damsell in distress (in drag, obviously), and Aho as the awesome landscape with shrubbery that changes the game.

I just really wanted to place the 8x8 as my nostradamian prediction. 9x8, tops. 12x6, disappointed.

(In unrelated news, it's the week-long state sanctioned skiing holiday off-work thing in F', which hardly affects post quality here. Ask Lempo.)

I have no ****ing idea what any of this means but you are awesome and this post is ****ing awesome and I love all you guys. For real

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Also the theory apparently goes that early money in hand is worth more, as the player can then invest the money to generate more income.

It’s also used as a tax loophole. Signed bonuses aren’t subject to the same taxation that salary is. Look at the Machado contract in the mlb for a very obvious example of this

 

[Ole Gil]

Signing bonuses also are often up front, so you can get interest on it the whole year, I'd think. Extra moolah.

 

[Lempo]

I have no ****ing idea what any of this means but you are awesome and this post is ****ing awesome and I love all you guys. For real

 

[Zub]

Lots of strange picks at the top of the 2nd round. There were definitely some guys on the board I would have liked to take a chance on, but I don't know much about this kid. Hopefully he'll be a good one.

And so a legacy was born..

 

[The Faulker 27]

He's turned out ok. I guess.

 

[Roboturner913]

He's OK for a one-dimensional, soft, small second-line winger that the Canes can't afford to re-sign anyway

 

[SaskCanesFan]

In my NHL 19 franchise, he wants $9.9m for 5 years. Terribly selfish

 

[Lempo]

In my NHL 19 franchise, he wants $9.9m for 5 years. Terribly selfish

What kind of trade offers you can get from other teams?

 

[SaskCanesFan]

What kind of trade offers you can get from other teams?

I got MacKinnon for Aho + Fleury, so honestly it worked ok. I should probably let Waddell know that's an option

 

[SlavinAway]

In my NHL 19 franchise, he wants $9.9m for 5 years. Terribly selfish

What was his production for the season?

 

[SaskCanesFan]

What was his production for the season?

Nothing yet, I just created one last night so it's preseason

 

[Mildan]

How do you guys think Aho will rank in the best players ever picked on 2nd round rankings?

 

[the halleJOKEL]

How do you guys think Aho will rank in the best players ever picked on 2nd round rankings?

probably somewhere in the top 10-20

random list of some notable 2nd round draft picks: bryan trottier, bobby clarke, joe nieuwendyk, ray whitney, doug weight, patrik elias, dale hunter, larry robinson, chris chelios, patrice bergeron, john leclair, duncan keith, nikita kucherov, alex debrincat, ryan o'reilly, shea weber, pk subban, roman josi, david krejci, paul stastny, jason pominville, mike cammalleri

 

[NotOpie]

probably somewhere in the top 10-20

random list of some notable 2nd round draft picks: bryan trottier, bobby clarke, joe nieuwendyk, ray whitney, doug weight, patrik elias, dale hunter, larry robinson, chris chelios, patrice bergeron, john leclair, duncan keith, nikita kucherov, alex debrincat, ryan o'reilly, shea weber, pk subban, roman josi, david krejci, paul stastny, jason pominville, mike cammalleri

You forgot Phil DiGiuseppe....

 

[Stubu]

Signing bonuses also are often up front, so you can get interest on it the whole year, I'd think. Extra moolah.

Is there a way to see Surges?

Twitter videos work or they don't. Would be grand to get 'em. Could be technical at my end.

 

[the halleJOKEL]

You forgot Phil DiGiuseppe....

her?

 

[NotOpie]

her?

der!

 

[Lempo]

der!

Die, I believe. Der is masculine. Das ist neutral.