GDT: #27: FLYERS at Sabres, Saturday, Dec. 8, 2018, 1:00 p.m. ET

[Curufinwe]

I’m just glad we’re finally seeing the REAL Hakstol now that Hextall is done puppeteering everything with the roster.

Clearly none of the idiotic moves were Haks fault, since, as we all know, #HakstolHadNoChoice

Hextall is what made him overuse MacDonald and they’re talking every day about their agreement that Sanheim needs to play less. Hak is an outstanding development coach.

The difference since Hexy left is striiiking.

MacDonald up from 17:17 (14:38) to 20:18 (17:23)

Sanheim down from 16:15 (14:51) to 13:54 (13:28)

Lindblom down from 12:54 (11:54) to 6:41 (5:16)

NHL.com - Stats

 

[mize370]

Lindblom should just stand on the bench. right in the middle. Maybe the cameras would get a good close up of hak looking around him for lehtera and weise.

 

[deadhead]

Fletcher needs to make some trades because the combos don't work:
The best lines, given the players they current have:

G - Couts - Voracek
Lindblom - Patrick - TK (keep Voracek far away from Patrick, horrible chemistry this year)
JVR - Weal - Simmonds
Raffl - Laughton - Weise

Provorov - Ghost
Sanheim - Gudas
Hagg - MacDonald/Folin

 

[Beef Invictus]

Fletcher needs to make some trades because the combos don't work:
The best lines, given the players they current have:

G - Couts - Voracek
Lindblom - Patrick - TK (keep Voracek far away from Patrick, horrible chemistry this year)
JVR - Weal - Simmonds
Raffl - Laughton - Weise

Provorov - Ghost
Sanheim - Gudas
Hagg - MacDonald/Folin

The line combos don't work because they're the work of a f***ing idiot. Changing the players just changes the pieces being mangled.

 

[WIP CALLER]

The line combos don't work because they're the work of a ****ing idiot. Changing the players just changes the pieces being mangled.

He could have the 1970's Habs in their prime and would still find the worst possible way to utilize them.

 

[Beef Invictus]

He could have the 1970's Habs in their prime and would still find the worst possible way to utilize them.

Like i just said elsewhere, try to imagine this moron not breaking up the Russians in Detroit much less playing their own system

 

[deadhead]

I don't think any coach can make these line combos work without some trades.
Hakstol may not be maximizing their potential, but these are the wrong players.
We don't have a 3C, we don't have enough speed, we don't have enough forwards with good shots.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

The line combos don't work because they're the work of a ****ing idiot. Changing the players just changes the pieces being mangled.

insert image of a kid trying to pound a square peg into a round hole toy... just sittin there pounding and pounding on the toy hammer


UGH i suk at linking stuff on this board... GRRRR

 

[Beef Invictus]

I don't think any coach can make these line combos work without some trades.
Hakstol may not be maximizing their potential, but these are the wrong players.
We don't have a 3C, we don't have enough speed, we don't have enough forwards with good shots.

Absolutely they can. Multiple better combinations have been posted by the amateurs here. The same amateurs who wanted TK on the top line for ages and were right.


Oh that's right, your assessment was that TK was a 4th liner and nothing more.


Methinks your roster evaluation is lacking.

 

[deadhead]

No, most of those combos posted here don't work.
If you keep TK on the first line, there is no good 2nd and 3rd lines you can put together right now with this group of forwards.

You won't admit that, b/c your fantasy is a new coach will "change" players who've demonstrated the same strengths and weaknesses for a decade (Voracek, JVR, Simmonds) or help other players transcend their talent limitations (Weal, Laughton, Raffl, Weise).

Fletcher is smart enough to know a new coach isn't going to make silk purses out of sows' ears.

You know that's not what I said about TK and the 4th line, but you lie as much as the POTUS.

 

[Curufinwe]

Do people want Neuvirth to start against Buffalo or Winnipeg?

 

[Rebels57]

The difference since Hexy left is striiiking.

MacDonald up from 17:17 (14:38) to 20:18 (17:23)

Sanheim down from 16:15 (14:51) to 13:54 (13:28)

Lindblom down from 12:54 (11:54) to 6:41 (5:16)

NHL.com - Stats

HEXTALL MADE HIM DO IT

 

[Rebels57]

Do people want Neuvirth to start against Buffalo or Winnipeg?

I'd be fine with him never starting another game for the Flyers.

 

[Beef Invictus]

No, most of those combos posted here don't work.
If you keep TK on the first line, there is no good 2nd and 3rd lines you can put together right now with this group of forwards.

You won't admit that, b/c your fantasy is a new coach will "change" players who've demonstrated the same strengths and weaknesses for a decade (Voracek, JVR, Simmonds) or help other players transcend their talent limitations (Weal, Laughton, Raffl, Weise).

Fletcher is smart enough to know a new coach isn't going to make silk purses out of sows' ears.

You know that's not what I said about TK and the 4th line, but you lie as much as the POTUS.

No, my fantasy is a coach who doesn't demote good players in favor of awful ones.


Do you consider that to be good coaching?


Do you think there is a single coach out there who is superior to Hakstol?

 

[Rebels57]

Absolutely they can. Multiple better combinations have been posted by the amateurs here. The same amateurs who wanted TK on the top line for ages and were right.


Oh that's right, your assessment was that TK was a 4th liner and nothing more.


Methinks your roster evaluation is lacking.

The Flyers could very easily have one of the best top sixes in the NHL by assembling one of the following combinations:

Giroux - Couturier - Konecny
Lindblom - Patrick - Voracek

or

Giroux - Couturier - Konecny
JVR - Patrick - Voracek

Either one should be able to win their matchups routinely.

There are also other combinations that could potentially work, that haven't been tried.

Somehow this dimwit assembled the worst possible combination for the 2nd line:

JVR - Patrick - Simmonds

No one to carry the puck through the neutral zone with speed. No one that is a plus playmaker. I'm sure he was thinking "I want this line to play more of a heavy, grinding type game."

HE'S SO CATASTROPHICALLY f***ING STUPID.

 

[Rich Nixon]

GAME DAY THREAD MUSIC

"Something's Gone Wrong Again" by Buzzcocks

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Oh shit or ("Oh Shit!"), your posting of this had me looking for other applicable Buzzcocks songs and remembering how much I love them. I was going "Why Can't I Touch It" (JVR/Lindblom and the top 6), "Autonomy" (Hakstol), or "Harmony in My Head" (general fan mood right now).

And in doing so, I just saw that Pete Shelley died yesterday. f***, man, I hate that. RIP to him, terrific songwriter and a huge force. Influence bigger than probably anyone expected.

Fun, sideways fact: Steve Garvey, bassist for the Buzzcocks during much of their early heyday and I think all of the songs on Singles Going Steady, ended up living in New Hope and working construction for Toll Brothers. Probably retired by now, but still a Bucks County resident.

 

[deadhead]

The Flyers could very easily have one of the best top sixes in the NHL by assembling one of the following combinations:

Giroux - Couturier - Konecny
Lindblom - Patrick - Voracek

or

Giroux - Couturier - Konecny
JVR - Patrick - Voracek

Lindblom - Patrick - Voracek has been a big "fail" this season, in fact, Patrick - Voracek simply doesn't work.

So try again.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Lindblom - Patrick - Voracek has been a big "fail" this season, in fact, Patrick - Voracek simply doesn't work.

So try again.

This is going to be hard for you to consider, since you think Patrick is gonna be borderline elite when you absolutely scoff at Giroux having that status... But maybe the problem is Patrick. It's odd that you're ignoring the other consistent part of the equation.


Or maybe the fact that the line is playing in an absolutely idiotic system affects then negatively. Not sure why you'd ignore that.

 

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

Not sure why you'd ignore that.

You know better than to state that....lol

 

[kelmitchell]

Like i just said elsewhere, try to imagine this moron not breaking up the Russians in Detroit much less playing their own system

Imagine him playing amac with lindstrom

 

[kelmitchell]

Do people want Neuvirth to start against Buffalo or Winnipeg?

I think its more likely he shatters his knee tripping over a blade of grass

 

[bennysflyers16]

Do people want Neuvirth to start against Buffalo or Winnipeg?

If my memory is correct he does decent vs Jets, but they are way too dangerous, Stolie has to play Wpg and let him get wrecked vs Buff

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Buffalo is going to come out and embarrass the Flyers.

 

[Domino666]

Buffalo is going to take the Flyers to pound town, and not in the good way

 

[FatTugboatFlahr]

Flyers win 5-3