Boston Bruins 22-‘23 Bruins roster and trade proposals discussions. VIII

[DominicT]

I remember reading about the bonuses needing to be accounted for in an article about Silfverbergs extension a few years back.

But I now assume the writer was wrong.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Edit: Found it What is Tagging or “Tagged Payroll Room” in the NHL CBA, Article 50.5?: Jakob Silfverberg

That part is correct. Deferred bonuses deferred to the current season are bonuses carried over from last season to this season.

I was referring to Bergeron/Krejci that will be deferred to next season.

I should have been clearer.

 

[Gonzothe7thDman]

That part is correct. Deferred bonuses deferred to the current season are bonuses carried over from last season to this season.

I was referring to Bergeron/Krejci that will be deferred to next season.

I should have been clearer.

Understood.

On March 1st do teams get an additional 10% in "Tagging room"?

 

[NeelyDan]

Am I missing something? Why does the Meier talk seem to be gaining steam?

 

[DominicT]

Understood.

On March 1st do teams get an additional 10% in "Tagging room"?

I'm not sure if that carried over to the new CBA. There was nothing In the MOU, so I imagine it is still there. Yes.

 

[ON3M4N]

FYI and I have already confirmed this. What is out there on the internet is not correct in a lot of cases. For example, a lot of what you read also says bonus overages come off tagging space. That is not true. Bonuses are applied to end of year cap and if it doesn't fit gets carried over into the first day of the next year when the offseason cap is 10 percent higher.

As for Meier, I don't know what he will get. I guess that's why they have the chance to talk to his agent and then let Evan Gold figure it out.

I think we are talking peanuts here. But I don't worry about the cap. You get the player you want, then figure it out. They could always sign the extension after Bergy raises the cup.

Now we wait to see if the Bruins get permission to speak with his agent

Am I missing something? Why does the Meier talk seem to be gaining steam?

Dom talks about him in his newest write-up

 

[Mr Cartmenez]

Am I missing something? Why does the Meier talk seem to be gaining steam?

Because we have already penciled in our third #1 defensemen in Chychrun and now we need to find our third #1 winger.

 

[ON3M4N]

Imagine if you will the following Top 9

Marchand - Bergeron - DeBrusk
Zacha - Krejci - Pastrnak
Hall - Coyle - Meier

 

[NeelyDan]

Imagine if you will the following Top 9

Marchand - Bergeron - DeBrusk
Zacha - Krejci - Pastrnak
Hall - Coyle - Meier

Feels like cheating

 

[Dizzay]

@MarchysNoseKnows so Smith gets you nothing is what you're sticking to?

 

[Over the volcano]

Imagine if you will the following Top 9

Marchand - Bergeron - DeBrusk
Zacha - Krejci - Pastrnak
Hall - Coyle - Meier

Only if the fourth is Frederic Toews Foglino

 

[Sheppy]

@MarchysNoseKnows so Smith gets you nothing is what you're sticking to?

I don’t see eye to eye with him much, but I agree with him here. Smith has pretty much no value at all.

 

[Dizzay]

I don’t see eye to eye with him much, but I agree with him here. Smith has pretty much no value at all.

I'm not concerned much with who likes who......unless Smith is part of a bigger deal, I think alone he gets you something

 

[NeelyDan]

I'm not concerned much with who likes who......unless Smith is part of a bigger deal, I think alone he gets you something

If he does, it’s inconsequential

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

I'm not concerned much with who likes who......unless Smith is part of a bigger deal, I think alone he gets you something

There’s literally nothing that says that’s the case. He’s a cap dump - and we probably won’t have to pay much to do it. This isn’t some deep take either - he’s a negative value asset at this point.

 

[Dr Quincy]

I'm not concerned much with who likes who......unless Smith is part of a bigger deal, I think alone he gets you something

I'm not sure why anyone would think that.

If he has value to a contender, then why wouldn't BOS keep him since they are a contender?

And he absoltuely has zero value to a non-contender.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Just for posterity’s sake…look at the difference between first and second…

 

[Dr Quincy]

Only if the fourth is Frederic Toews Foglino

And the salary cap is abolished.

 

[BruinsFan37]

Feels like cheating

90s Redwings cheating

 

[Dizzay]

best thing is we have less than 30 days to see who's right and who's wrong

 

[Sheppy]

I'm not concerned much with who likes who......unless Smith is part of a bigger deal, I think alone he gets you something

I really don’t. He’s very, very bad.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

I really don’t. He’s very, very bad.

If anyone wanted Smith they would have grabbed him for free.

Unless we are taking a worse player back with a smaller cap hit, Smith adds nothing to a trade in 2023.

He'll be in a deal to offset money, otherwise he's been given a leash far longer than any Providence player has been given.

 

[ON3M4N]

Only if the fourth is Frederic Toews Foglino

Wouldn't be surprised in Frederic would be part of a package for Timo. If he were to have an extension agreed on I'd think something like 1st + Lysell/Lohrei + Frederic would be a base.

 

[NeelyDan]

Is this Meier talk in the rental context? I am so confused. How on earth would we extend someone of this calibre

 

[ON3M4N]

Is this Meier talk in the rental context? I am so confused. How on earth would we extend someone of this calibre

Someone likely will need to be dealt in the off- season like DeBrusk

 

[HustleB]

I mean if we trade for a star, extend that star, sign Pasta and ice a competitive team next year. At that point we will have made a complete mockery of the cap and I likely will still be irrationally concerned about cap hell in the future.