Prospect Info: #21OA - RW Julien Gauthier - Val-d'Or, QMJHL

[cptjeff]

Hasn't Gauthier been having a decent pre season? Any chance he makes the team or whats his season projection?

Teemu Selanne-esque rookie season is the plan. Pencil him in for 70+ goals.

 

[Lempo]

Teemu Selanne-esque rookie season is the plan. Pencil him in for 70+ goals.

75 tops. We need to be let keep Teemu.

 

[Unsustainable]

He’s taken the Foegele route, out played everyone he could get a spot on the roster.

 

[Anton Babchuk]

gauthier had 1 point in 6 preseason games. let's temper our expectations. remember when kuokkanen cracked the opening lineup a couple years back?

 

[hurricure]

ill temper nothing

 

[A Star is Burns]

gauthier had 1 point in 6 preseason games. let's temper our expectations. remember when kuokkanen cracked the opening lineup a couple years back?

This is the one thing that still is holding me back. He's looked the part and generated a lot of chances and whatnot, but it hasn't amounted to much.

 

[Lempo]

This is the one thing that still is holding me back. He's looked the part and generated a lot of chances and whatnot, but it hasn't amounted to much.

Aho went many games in 2016, until.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Aho went many games in 2016, until.

Aho dominated a men's league the prior season and dominated the WJC. Gauthier had fewer points in the AHL than the "other" Sebastian Aho.

 

[Lempo]

Yes. I am mainly saying that genuine prowess may initially fail to turn into actual points for whatever reason.

Well, goals, in Aho's case. Can't remember if he racked up assists.

 

[lakai17]

This is the one thing that still is holding me back. He's looked the part and generated a lot of chances and whatnot, but it hasn't amounted to much.

Hasn't he been an impact in pre season without the puck? With the puck generated a bit of chamces we all know.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Right now, he's a mad 4th liner with potential (and also an actual bodybuilder).

Let's see some NHL goals and then reassess.

 

[Canes]

The kid loves driving the to the net. Unfortunately, he finishes like Foegele so many of those chances don't turn into anything. If either one of them had any sort of finishing ability, we would have another Erik Cole on our hands.

 

[Drivebytrucker]

gauthier had 1 point in 6 preseason games. let's temper our expectations. remember when kuokkanen cracked the opening lineup a couple years back?

I think he could be Brian Boyle esque though.

Thst would keep him in the league for a long period....

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Gauthier has been a goal scorer both in Jrs and last year in the AHL and I think he has quite a bit more offensive skill than Foegele, who got by on effort alone. Hopefully he'll be able to combine the effort we saw in the pre-season with his goal scoring ability.

 

[Canes]

Gauthier has been a goal scorer both in Jrs and last year in the AHL and I think he has quite a bit more offensive skill than Foegele, who got by on effort alone. Hopefully he'll be able to combine the effort we saw in the pre-season with his goal scoring ability.

Foegele put up close to 30 goals in the AHL as a 21 year old. Basically the same as Gauthier last season. Foegele was also quite a good player in juniors. I’d say they’re on very similar career trajectories so far. I agree Gauthier might be slightly better offensively but not quite a bit better.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Foegele put up close to 30 goals in the AHL as a 21 year old. Basically the same as Gauthier last season. Foegele was also quite a good player in juniors. I’d say they’re on very similar career trajectories so far. I agree Gauthier might be slightly better offensively but not quite a bit better.

Foegele had 1 OHL season of decent goal scoring and 1 AHL season of good goal scoring but his prior OHL and NCAA seasons weren't great (from a goal scoring POV). I agree he was a good player in the OHL, but not to the same level "goal scorer" as Gauthier who put up 38 and 41 goals in the QMJHL and now 27 in the AHL. Foegele's goal to assist ratio was better though.

Hard to compare leagues and team situations, but Gauthier (to me) looks to have quite a bit better shot and finishing capability than Foegele, which is what I mean by offensive skill. Maybe it never pans out in the NHL though, as we saw with elite wrister Drayson Bowman.

BTW, I assume this is the poster formerly known as canesinducedcoma?

 

[Canes]

Foegele had 1 OHL season of decent goal scoring and 1 AHL season of good goal scoring but his prior OHL and NCAA seasons weren't great (from a goal scoring POV). I agree he was a good player in the OHL, but not to the same level "goal scorer" as Gauthier who put up 38 and 41 goals in the QMJHL and now 27 in the AHL. Foegele's goal to assist ratio was better though.

Hard to compare leagues and team situations, but Gauthier (to me) looks to have quite a bit better shot and finishing capability than Foegele, which is what I mean by offensive skill. Maybe it never pans out in the NHL though, as we saw with elite wrister Drayson Bowman.

BTW, I assume this is the poster formerly known as canesinducedcoma?

Fair enough, I see what you meant.

Yes. The Canes no longer induce comas by watching them so I just shortened it. Surprised Canes wasn't already taken.

 

[bleedgreen]

Goat has been playing for a fourth line spot the whole time, so the lack of finish is a bit irrelevant at this point. He’s driving the net hard, making the defense make plays on him. He’ll draw some calls and pop a few in, scare the bejesus out of some defenseman on the forecheck.

He and Necas aren’t fighting for the same spot.

 

[Anton Babchuk]

both of foegele's/gauthiers numbers indicate a low level of offensive potential. 46 and 41 points in their age 21 ahl seasons don't exactly scream out "nhl scorer." gauthier "looking great" in preseason and ending up with a 0+1 statline in six games isn't surprising. because of his size and skating he tends to stand out but he has trouble actually turning those power moves/net drives into actual results. i would not get hyped about either of them turning into more than a brock mcginn-level 25-30 point player. even that may be a stretch tbh.

 

[Anton Babchuk]

Goat has been playing for a fourth line spot the whole time, so the lack of finish is a bit irrelevant at this point. He’s driving the net hard, making the defense make plays on him. He’ll draw some calls and pop a few in, scare the bejesus out of some defenseman on the forecheck.

He and Necas aren’t fighting for the same spot.

we're not evaluating his offensive abilities based just on preseason. he's had two full ahl seasons of meager results. if people's expectations are of him to be a fourth liner, then that's fine, but looking around the canes online universe there seems to be a bit more than that.

 

[bleedgreen]

we're not evaluating his offensive abilities based just on preseason. he's had two full ahl seasons of meager results. if people's expectations are of him to be a fourth liner, then that's fine, but judging around the canes online universe there seems to be a bit more than that.

I watched two of the Caps games on their network since I have nhl tv and that was my only choice. They mentioned in both broadcasts that Canes management hopes Goat plays well enough to make the fourth line. Didn’t sound like they are even considering him for higher than that right now, without a few injuries anyways. They specifically want what he brings on the fourth line since they’ve lost some grit from last season.

He had a pretty good season last year, it isn’t completely off base to hope he develops to being a third liner who can score 15-20 but his own management isn’t expecting that from him at this point. That’s why I got really confused when people were making Goat vs Necas a conversation point. They’ve never been fighting for the same job.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I watched two of the Caps games on their network since I have nhl tv and that was my only choice. They mentioned in both broadcasts that Canes management hopes Goat plays well enough to make the fourth line. Didn’t sound like they are even considering him for higher than that right now, without a few injuries anyways. They specifically want what he brings on the fourth line since they’ve lost some grit from last season.

He had a pretty good season last year, it isn’t completely off base to hope he develops to being a third liner who can score 15-20 but his own management isn’t expecting that from him at this point. That’s why I got really confused when people were making Goat vs Necas a conversation point. They’ve never been fighting for the same job.

I think the Goat vs Necas thing is coming more from having 11 clear-cut veterans on the roster (including Foegele) when healthy, so only one of the two can take a full time job. The other realistically has to go back to Charlotte. That makes it a choice between the two of them, even if they’re not fighting for the same actual position.

 

[bleedgreen]

I think Rod would do whatever he had to so he could play the guys who earned it. He would sit someone unexpected if Necas deserves to play.

 

[SaskCanesFan]

both of foegele's/gauthiers numbers indicate a low level of offensive potential. 46 and 41 points in their age 21 ahl seasons don't exactly scream out "nhl scorer." gauthier "looking great" in preseason and ending up with a 0+1 statline in six games isn't surprising. because of his size and skating he tends to stand out but he has trouble actually turning those power moves/net drives into actual results. i would not get hyped about either of them turning into more than a brock mcginn-level 25-30 point player. even that may be a stretch tbh.

Development isn't linear obviously, but it's been mentioned a lot that power forwards can take longer to develop. And the guy i always hoped Gauthier could follow was Josh Anderson. He was much less of an AHL scorer than Gauthier at the same age but has turned out quite well. So it should be possible for him to be more than a 4th liner

 

[tarheelhockey]

I think Rod would do whatever he had to so he could play the guys who earned it. He would sit someone unexpected if Necas deserves to play.

I think you’re right about that, but the decisions are a lot tougher if it’s more of a 50/50 call between Necas and the other guy. Tougher both for the 2019-20 season, and in terms of putting Necas in the best position to succeed.