NFL: 2024 NFL off-season news & notes discussion thread

[Blackhawkswincup]

I would be wary of giving Tua longterm big $ deal simply on his injury/concussion history

 

[Troy McClure]

I'm going to have a stroke if they give him 40+ million.

I wouldn't let the salary worry you. It's the cost of a starting QB these days with the cap flying up into orbit.

The worry should be how long they lock in. The Daniel Jones contract is a good example of one that was flashy for the numbers a pedestrian QB got, but it was also really only a two year deal because it was much cheaper for the Giants to get out of than other recent non-superstar QB contacts (Kyler, Dak, Carr, Hurts). If their commitment is only a couple more seasons, that's not too bad to see if he gets better.

 

[Terry Yake]

 

[StreetHawk]

I wouldn't let the salary worry you. It's the cost of a starting QB these days with the cap flying up into orbit.

The worry should be how long they lock in. The Daniel Jones contract is a good example of one that was flashy for the numbers a pedestrian QB got, but it was also really only a two year deal because it was much cheaper for the Giants to get out of than other recent non-superstar QB contacts (Kyler, Dak, Carr, Hurts). If their commitment is only a couple more seasons, that's not too bad to see if he gets better.

Cost of doing business. Carr got $70 mill over 2 years basically. Jones $82 mill over 2.
Tua has his 5th year option, but to lessen the impact of a new deal down the line (and get out earlier), they can sign a new deal in the offseason and can prorate the signing bonus beginning in 2024.

 

[Blitzkrug]

Looks like Fletcher Cox might be hanging it up too.

 

[GKJ]

Cox bailed them out of spots with Carter hitting a wall and Davis eating his way off the field

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Cox bailed them out of spots with Carter hitting a wall and Davis eating his way off the field

Good point

The "LOL Bears Carter is God" stuff died out in 2nd half of year

 

[GKJ]

Good point

The "LOL Bears Carter is God" stuff died out in 2nd half of year

Still might be defensive rookie of the year

 

[Unholy Diver]

might be time to think of a succession plan in Indy

Jim Irsay treated for overdose by local police: report

The Colts owner was administered Narcan for what appeared to be an opiod-related incident at his home

deadspin.com

 

[GKJ]

There’s most likely an estate. Does he have a family?

 

[Unholy Diver]

There’s most likely an estate. Does he have a family?

looks like 3 daughters and 10 grandkids, so there are plenty of options, as well as a possibility for a Springer Show fight for control

 

[Troy McClure]

There’s most likely an estate. Does he have a family?

Yes, but they're going to have an even bigger headache trying to figure out how to sell off all of the guitars he bought.

 

[Unholy Diver]

Yes, but they're going to have an even bigger headache trying to figure out how to sell off all of the guitars he bought.

Yeah it seems he is quite a collector

 

[Voight]

might be time to think of a succession plan in Indy

Jim Irsay treated for overdose by local police: report

The Colts owner was administered Narcan for what appeared to be an opiod-related incident at his home

deadspin.com

Maybe this explains his twitter tirade a month ago.

 

[StreetHawk]

looks like 3 daughters and 10 grandkids, so there are plenty of options, as well as a possibility for a Springer Show fight for control

So long as the kids are amicable on a plan of succession, it can remain in the family. Denver, it didn't because the last owner had kids from 2 marriages, and ultimately, they couldn't agree on who would lead the franchise, thus it was sold.

 

[Karterthadon]

 

[Tony Romo]

Man Fletcher Cox was so f***ing good in his prime. I remember when Dallas had 3 all pros on the OL and he would just devour them

 

[Peat]

Raw physical skills are there. At that size, that's a WR or a DB.

Has good hands. Seriously elusive for a guy his size too.

Question is - beyond route memorisation and mastery - how well he's going to do with tracking the ball in the air and those combat catches. It's not like he's done none of that in rugby, but it's a different type of thing and he's not one of those guys who's really feted for his high ball ability iirc.

That's the difference between him being a gadget receiver used on sweeps and screens and returns and being a real player.

I presume that some of the appeal is that at his age, he can go back if it doesn’t work. Not sure how many of these rugby guys went into the Pathway and went back.

He'd make the same money on a rookie contract as he would as one of the game's bigger stars in rugby, more or less, while probably playing less games.

Honestly in a way I hope this doesn't work out as rugby doesn't need more of its best looking at the NFL and going "hang on". Although it would be one way for the NFL to find a lot more linebacker talent in a hurry...

 

[TheGreenTBer]

Man Fletcher Cox was so f***ing good in his prime. I remember when Dallas had 3 all pros on the OL and he would just devour them

The opposite scenario was when Larry Allen would devour all-pro defensive linemen

 

[Unholy Diver]

Has good hands. Seriously elusive for a guy his size too.

Question is - beyond route memorisation and mastery - how well he's going to do with tracking the ball in the air and those combat catches. It's not like he's done none of that in rugby, but it's a different type of thing and he's not one of those guys who's really feted for his high ball ability iirc.

That's the difference between him being a gadget receiver used on sweeps and screens and returns and being a real player.



He'd make the same money on a rookie contract as he would as one of the game's bigger stars in rugby, more or less, while probably playing less games.

Honestly in a way I hope this doesn't work out as rugby doesn't need more of its best looking at the NFL and going "hang on". Although it would be one way for the NFL to find a lot more linebacker talent in a hurry...

sounds like a ST demon/return guy to me

 

[John Price]

 

[EpochLink]

What in the actual f***!?!??!??

 

[Voight]

What in the actual f***!?!??!??

Wow this is wild.... tho I'm kind of surprised the fiancee waited two days. Was she not worried the next day when he didn't answer his phone?

 

[Unholy Diver]

Wow this is wild.... tho I'm kind of surprised the fiancee waited two days. Was she not worried the next day when he didn't answer his phone?

she was probably in on it, trying not to arouse suspicion

 

[TheGreenTBer]

she was probably in on it, trying not to arouse suspicion

I see no other explanation.

If I expect someone home that night and they never show up I'm certainly not waiting a day to reach out.