Prospect Info: 2023 NHL Draft - Part 2 (Who Do You Want To Draft At #2)

[nbducksfan19]

PV playing mind games or just being PV?

I find what Jarmo said is very interesting. His statement about wishing he knew who we are taking sure sounds like they have a strong preference.

 

[gilfaizon]

Manifesting Fantilli for tomorrow. Carlsson will feel like a let down to me, but I do trust our scouts. They'd have to see a real flaw in Fantilli as his raw tools are better.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

I just have visions of Carlsson hitting the opposition with his purse and shooting easily saved muffins for the next decade.

Carlsson's shot is pretty good actually, it's just not elite and he doesn't use it enough like (Getzlaf).I just hope Getz doesn't teach him how to make drop passes to nowhere.

Right now I'm assuming it's Carlsson that is the pick so that I'm mentally prepared if they pass on Fantilli.

 

[tomd]

I find what Jarmo said is very interesting. His statement about wishing he knew who we are taking sure sounds like they have a strong preference.

Yeah, that's why I posted it. And logic would dictate that the strong preference is either Fantilli or Carlsson (more likely the latter). If Columbus really wants Carlsson and is honestly worried (as are most of us!) that the Ducks will take him, would they be willing to trade 3OA and 34OA for 2OA? Lot's of interesting things could happen in the next 24 hours.

Carlsson's shot is pretty good actually, it's just not elite and he doesn't use it enough like (Getzlaf).I just hope Getz doesn't teach him how to make drop passes to nowhere.

Right now I'm assuming it's Carlsson that is the pick so that I'm mentally prepared if they pass on Fantilli.

I've heard pretty consistently that it is the weakest part of his game. McKenzie's rating on his shot was 3.5/5.0 which is very average...if not a bit below average. Fantilli's shot rating was 4.5 IIRC.

 

[Vaakou]

Please don't f*** this up... please...

 

[nbducksfan19]

Yeah, that's why I posted it. And logic would dictate that the strong preference is either Fantilli or Carlsson (more likely the latter). If Columbus really wants Carlsson and is honestly worried (as are most of us!) that the Ducks will take him, would they be willing to trade 3OA and 34OA for 2OA? Lot's of interesting things could happen in the next 24 hours.

I certainly think it’s Fantilli or Carlsson because I don’t think they would be worried about us taking smith (and they have made it very clear they are out on Michov). My question to you is why do you feel confident their target would be Carlsson? You have said that many times, but I’m not sure what that is based on?

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

Please don't f*** this up... please...

That’s usually what I tell my orthopedic surgeons.

 

[Dirk316]

Terry would be able to bully Carlson, the giant would be the softest in the top 6 which is pathetic for someone that big

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I remember back you, Pepper, myself and a few others were pro McTavish. Majority wanted Eklund

It's unreal Anaheim top to bottom has has one of the smallest softest lineups in the league. You have a rare chance to draft a 1st line #1 pick talent with size and toughness. Of course you pick the gentle friendly giant who is also rated lower. You can't make this stuff up we all know Verbeeks MO I've called this way back. I hope I'm wrong but it's not looking good

Looking at their score cards, that slower, Gentle Giant is superior at OZ Retrievals/60 and better at Boards to Middle plays/60 than Fantilli. You gotta be physical to be winning the puck as well as be able to play the boards to middle plays (he's not a perimeter player). I would have thought that Fantilli's speed and tenacity would have made him the better player at OZ Retrievals and Board to Middle plays.

Also helps that the Gentle Giant doesn't lose pucks when exiting and entering zones.

 

[tomd]

I certainly think it’s Fantilli or Carlsson because I don’t think they would be worried about us taking smith (and they have made it very clear they are out on Michov). My question to you is why do you feel confident their target would be Carlsson? You have said that many times, but I’m not sure what that is based on?

Just my sense that he is more of a Jarmo pick and complements their other players like Gaudreau, Johnson, and Laine perfectly. They have enough shooters on that team...they desperately need a playmaking center. Carlsson is perfect for them.

 

[robbieboy3686]

Just my sense that he is more of a Jarmo pick and complements their other players like Gaudreau, Johnson, and Laine perfectly. They have enough shooters on that team...they desperately need a playmaking center. Carlsson is perfect for them.

While the ducks don’t have enough shooters and certainly don’t have size and toughness. Again, if the ducks don’t pick fantilli tomorrow I will never comeback to these boards ever again( that includes to browse ) that’s how sure I am .

 

[70sSanO]

I would rather the Ducks take Fantilli because if Carlsson is a bust a 1C or 2C I don’t know what he brings.

If Fantilli is a bust at 1C or 2C, and gets a bit more size he can pattern his game after Tom Wilson instead to Matthew Tkachuk.

And while I’m not a Wilson fan, at least there’ll be no more Jay Beagle incidents.

John

 

[Dirk316]

Looking at their score cards, that slower, Gentle Giant is superior at OZ Retrievals/60 and better at Boards to Middle plays/60 than Fantilli. You gotta be physical to be winning the puck as well as be able to play the boards to middle plays (he's not a perimeter player). I would have thought that Fantilli's speed and tenacity would have made him the better player at OZ Retrievals and Board to Middle plays.

Also helps that the Gentle Giant doesn't lose pucks when exiting and entering zones.

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Is there a less physical league than the SHL? That tells me nothing. Show me aggressive traits such as hitting?

 

[cheesymc]

Is someone going to be posting a Draft thread soon, or are waiting for tomorrow?

 

[nbducksfan19]

While the ducks don’t have enough shooters and certainly don’t have size and toughness. Again, if the ducks don’t pick fantilli tomorrow I will never comeback to these boards ever again( that includes to browse ) that’s how sure I am .

Don’t tempt me to switch to leaning Carlsson over Fantilli..

 

[Terry Yake]

the only way they f*** this up tomorrow is if they take will smith at #2

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Is there a less physical league than the SHL? That tells me nothing. Show me aggressive traits such as hitting?

It should b/c it's a 17-year old without elite speed playing against men. Fantilli having the gift of elite speed and physical makeup should have been able to exploit the NCAA (17-24), but I'm quite surprised he didn't with the score card. Fantilli's card kinda projects to a top-end scoring winger than centerman. I don't mind that at all since he'd the fourth member of the top-6 on the Ducks and the Ducks already have two centermen in Zegras and McTavish.

I have a preference for Carlsson, but Fantilli fits PV's vision. Fantilli is a visceral, quick strike player while Carlsson can extend puck possession in the OZ or in transition. Carlsson often uses his big frame to play keep away with the puck. One other aspect that Carlsson doesn't get credit for is that he loves going to the net and can score in tight just like McTavish. Former GM Murray said when McTavish was drafted, we had only two other players who went to the net in Max Jones and Max Comtois. Carlsson goes to the net. Fantilli is often a floating F3 in many videos I've seen.

I'm okay with either player on the team, but this is PV's team and I think Fantilli fits the vision he wants. We passed up on high end goal scorers for the shutdown 3C Gaucher in last year's draft. We passed up on more offense on waivers in Tolvanen for the big Leason last year. At the end of the season, we passed upon on signing our 5th round scoring winger Tschigerl for UDFA physical RW in Wiebe and traded for physical RW Caulfield.

 

[nbducksfan19]

the only way they f*** this up tomorrow is if they take will smith at #2

That’s how I feel about it…and even then I wouldn’t be shocked it Smith ends up being the best of the bunch.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

the only way they f*** this up tomorrow is if they take will smith at #2

My only issue with smith is the fit with what we already have, doesn’t make sense. And the fact that we could trade down a little for him

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

the only way they f*** this up tomorrow is if they take will smith at #2

That'd be a real slap in the face.

 

[robbieboy3686]

I cant wait to revisit “ I want carlsson “ “ I have a preference for carlsson” in 5 years…

 

[Hamilton Bulldogs]

I cant wait to revisit “ I want carlsson “ “ I have a preference for carlsson” in 5 years…

Ya wouldn't be able to revisit it if the ducks do draft him.

Per your own rules

 

[Terry Yake]

all i know is that i'll be very happy ending up with either fantilli or carlsson. fantilli is my preference if i had to choose, but lately it seems like some posters on here see carlsson as being this massive drop off from fantilli, which is not the case at all. both guys would be going #1 overall in any other draft

 

[Ducks]

I would 100 percent choose Fantilli, but if the Ducks draft Carlsson I'll be excited because it means they think he'll be better than Fantilli which says a lot. Plus I trust our scouting in the top 10. Mctavish, Z, Minty, Lindholm, Drysdale, Ryan, and even Fowler at 12 were all winning picks. Only Ritchie stands out as a wtf were they thinking pick.

 

[gunnergunther]

seems funny to bastion Tkachuck as some pinnacle of the playoff hockey player when he was pretty much mediocre as can be in his previous appearances, and then got injured due to his playing style in his one great showing.