GDT: 2023 NHL Draft Lottery - 8:00PM ET - ESPN, Sportsnet, TVA Sports (What's more shocking: ESPN bleeping up or Chicago winning?)

[Rebels57]

In case anyone doesn't believe it's possible to rig a ping-pong ball lottery, it's been done before, in Philadelphia no less lol

1980 Pennsylvania Lottery scandal - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[GKJ]

Drafting Dvorsky seems very not-Flyers. They’ve used a 1st round pick drafting a guy playing in Europe just 3 times, ever. Unless there is a sudden drastic shift in their scouting philosophy, I don’t think that’s happening at this time.

 

[ponder719]

In case anyone doesn't believe it's possible to rig a ping-pong ball lottery, it's been done before, in Philadelphia no less lol

1980 Pennsylvania Lottery scandal - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It's doable to rig a lottery with a single drawing. Rig a double drawing using the same balls, and you're likely to get the same numbers pulled over and over again, which would be incredibly obvious on the single shot recording we have of the draft lottery.

 

[Rebels57]

Drafting Dvorsky seems very not-Flyers. They’ve used a 1st round pick drafting a guy playing in Europe just 3 times, ever. Unless there is a sudden drastic shift in their scouting philosophy, I don’t think that’s happening at this time.

Please be right.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Dvorsky has played at all of the major international tournaments (twice even) and played pro hockey in Sweden. They've had plenty of eyes on him I'd imagine. They seem desperate for centers so that checks also. I don't think they pass on him because he isn't North American. They probably would have taken Slafkovsky last year (and moved him to Center) if he made it to 5. I think Briere slipped about that one pre-draft.

 

[Rebels57]

It's doable to rig a lottery with a single drawing. Rig a double drawing using the same balls, and you're likely to get the same numbers pulled over and over again, which would be incredibly obvious on the single shot recording we have of the draft lottery.

Where there's a will, there's a way lol

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

In case anyone doesn't believe it's possible to rig a ping-pong ball lottery, it's been done before, in Philadelphia no less lol

1980 Pennsylvania Lottery scandal - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

A few years ago there was a like an unemployed dude in like the Midwest I think that somehow like hacked into his state’s lottery system with an iPad to produce the number on his ticket.

 

[Rebels57]

A few years ago there was a like an unemployed dude in like the Midwest I think that somehow like hacked into his state’s lottery system with an iPad to produce the number on his ticket.

Now just imagine what a billion dollar industry like the NHL is capable of lol

 

[Beef Invictus]

Drafting Dvorsky seems very not-Flyers. They’ve used a 1st round pick drafting a guy playing in Europe just 3 times, ever. Unless there is a sudden drastic shift in their scouting philosophy, I don’t think that’s happening at this time.

So it sounds like they're due

 

[deadhead]

Flahr has no problem with smaller players, York, Brink, Andrae anyone?
If I go small, however, I want someone who's special skill wise high in the draft - you gamble on smaller players in the 2nd round.
Otherwise go with the safer, bigger player.
Gauthier had a high floor b/c size, speed and plus shot means at worst he's a goal scoring LW - and there was no one special left on the board.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Flahr has no problem with smaller players, York, Brink, Andrae anyone?
If I go small, however, I want someone who's special skill wise high in the draft - you gamble on smaller players in the 2nd round.
Otherwise go with the safer, bigger player.
Gauthier had a high floor b/c size, speed and plus shot means at worst he's a goal scoring LW - and there was no one special left on the board.

Why does Flahr constantly talk about size and making guys bigger? Why is that the one thing he covers with every player?

 

[FlyerNutter]

I do hope team “too proud to tank” enjoyed last night.

Culture, playing the right way, and all that bullshit.

Eat up.

Chicago had the balls, and the dedication to success to do what was needed this year to put themselves in a position to find an elite talent. That’s what winning clubs do. Good on them.

 

[Rebels57]

Why does Flahr constantly talk about size and making guys bigger? Why is that the one thing he covers with every player?

Because he's a stupid fat f***

 

[Beef Invictus]

Because he's a stupid fat f***

The finest point of the game he understands is shooting, so that puts him on the level of dudes in the crowd yelling SHOOT

 

[Embiid]

I do hope team “too proud to tank” enjoyed last night.

Culture, playing the right way, and all that bullshit.

Eat up.

Chicago had the balls, and the dedication to success to do what was needed this year to put themselves in a position to find an elite talent. That’s what winning clubs do. Good on them.

We keep playing checkers...or worse color coded Candyland while teams like Chicago play chess. Flyers haven't had a long game for as long as I can remember.

 

[FlyerNutter]

We keep playing checkers...or worse color coded Candyland while teams like Chicago play chess. Flyers haven't had a long game for as long as I can remember.

It’s just disgusting. Bedard’s name was out there for years.

You could have look at your roster, and realized this shit is going nowhere. Or… you could have done something. Anything this f***ing year to try to move a touch lower at least into that bottom 4.

They f***ing kept everyone all season long. Last night was the best chance this team would have had, and will likely have - in a while, to find a generational player. They blew it. Didn’t even try, and that’s the kicker.

At least we will always have those Bully alumni nights. Rot in hell.

 

[deadhead]

That's why Hilferty is running the show, not Scott.
And why they've publicly committed to a rebuild.

This has been an issue since the Carter/Richards trade, which was the perfect time for a rebuild - you just acquired a bunch of young assets - so move out Kimmo et al and suck for a couple years, get some more high picks and you're a powerhouse by 2015-16.

2018-19, team is revealed to be top heavy with your best players in their late 20s, so the rebuild didn't work (because you never committed to it and had some bad luck) - so again, "the Flyers reload, they don't rebuild."

Spring 2021, the gig is up, trade Giroux, why not trade Risto and Sanheim - because Scott was sold on an "aggressive reload" by Barber et al.

 

[Embiid]

I remember I changed my handle to Freshperspective back when Emperor Snider was chortling about the merits of our "culture".....and here we are.....still locked in a failing culture.

Ed Snider defends Philadelphia Flyers culture: ‘We don’t need a fresh perspective’

Craig Berube might make a fine NHL coach. As GM Paul Holmgren said when he was named as Peter Laviolette’s replacement on Monday morning, Berube is a coach that’s been in the Flyers system for several years and “he demands … <a...

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[Flyerfan4life]

when does out "we won meaningless game 76th of the reg. season" trophy showup ?

asking for a friend...

 

[Beef Invictus]

That's why Hilferty is running the show, not Scott.
And why they've publicly committed to a rebuild.

This has been an issue since the Carter/Richards trade, which was the perfect time for a rebuild - you just acquired a bunch of young assets - so move out Kimmo et al and suck for a couple years, get some more high picks and you're a powerhouse by 2015-16.

2018-19, team is revealed to be top heavy with your best players in their late 20s, so the rebuild didn't work (because you never committed to it and had some bad luck) - so again, "the Flyers reload, they don't rebuild."

Spring 2021, the gig is up, trade Giroux, why not trade Risto and Sanheim - because Scott was sold on an "aggressive reload" by Barber et al.

They really haven't committed publicly to a rebuild. Rebuilding requires firing everyone who made this situation. They haven't done that.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

They really haven't committed publicly to a rebuild. Rebuilding requires firing everyone who made this situation. They haven't done that.

It also requires actually playing youth full go when they’re called up instead of having players with no future on this team playing also.

Gotta love rolling with 7 dmen for no reason.

 

[Beef Invictus]

It also requires actually playing youth full go when they’re called up instead of having players with no future on this team playing also.

Gotta love rolling with 7 dmen for no reason.

And playing dmen at forward to avoid using youth.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Now just imagine what a billion dollar industry like the NHL is capable of lol

Fwiw I don’t think it’s rigged. They hire out some pretty noteworthy independent law firms to do it for them. I think the league is just so bad at PR you had Weekes slip up last night. The results are obviously done before the broadcast.

The league obviously caters to trying to grow a lot of these 90’s & beyond non-traditional market teams which seemingly never win these things. If they were rigging it you’d think they send more action those team’s way. Hell McDavid in Edmonton in a west coast time slot is probably one of the worst things to happen to the league from a marketing standpoint.

 

[AndHeMissedTheNet]

It's funny, i read about Dvorsky on almost any scouting report and think "sounds great, seems like the type of player this team needs". I read about Dvorsky on here, and i want nothing to do with him.

If he ends up being the pick at 7, i don't think i would inherently have a problem with it. I also can't say, based on what i've seen/read, that he's clearly a better option than Benson or Moore. So basically the same reaction i had last year when they took Cutter with Jiricek still available.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

I like Zach Benson, but a 5’9” 160 lbs winger without high-end speed does carry risk.