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Treb

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May 31, 2011
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1. Lane Hutson, 50.8% (+7)
2. David Reinbacher, 84.8% (NA)
3. Logan Mailloux, 37.2% (+4)
4. Joshua Roy, 37.7% (+1)
5. Adam Engstrom, 42.8% (+21)
6. Owen Beck, 72.2% (+4)
7. Emil Heineman, 40.7% (+6)
8. Sean Farrell, 65.6% (-5)
9. Filip Mesar, 54.5% (-3)
10. Jakub Dobes, 29.5% (+4)
11. Jacob Fowler, 42.1% (NA)
12. Riley Kidney, 39.5% (+0)
13. Jayden Struble, 54.3% (+8)
14. Oliver Kapanen, 36.5% (+10)
15. William Trudeau, 37.3% (+15)
16. Cayden Primeau, 29.2% (-5)
17. Luke Tuch, 33.7% (+6)
18. Bogdan Konyushkov, 33.9% (NA)
19. Vincenz Rohrer, 33.3% (-1)
20. Jared Davidson, 32.5% (+14)
21. Xavier Simoneau, 40.5% (+11)
22. Mattias Norlinder, 35.1% (-5)
23. Jan Mysak, 28.3% (-4)
24. Cedric Guindon, 29.3% (+5)
25. Florian Xhekaj, 23.1% (NA)
26. Quentin Miller, 24.0% (NA)
27. Nathan Légaré, 26.18 (NA)
28. Yevgeni Volokhin, 25% (NA)
29. Blake Biondi, 28.0% (-2)
30. Filip Eriksson, 29.0% (NA)
31. Lucas Condotta, 32.7% (+12)
32. Luke Mittelstadt, 23.2% (NA)
33. Petteri Nurmi, 35.7% (+0)
34. Nicolas Beaudin, 36.7% (NA)
35. Miguel Tourigny, 28.6% (+0)
36. Ty Smilanic, 37.5% (-8)
37. Sam Harris, 38.1% (NA)
38. Emmett Croteau, 45.5% (+0)
39. Dmitri Kostenko, 45.2% (-8)
40. Rhett Pitlick, 66.7% (-1)
41. Joe Vrbetic, 44.2% (-6)
42. Alexander Gordin, 54.3% (+2)
43. Daniil Sobolev, 63.4% (-1)
44. Jack Smith (+1)

Graduated: Slafkosky, Guhle, Barron, Harris, Xhekaj, Ylonen, Harvey-Pinard
Out: Dichow, Fairbrother, Teasdale, Hillis, Schnarr, Gorniak, Henriksson

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Treb

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May 31, 2011
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Awards:
AINEC Award: 2. David Reinbacher (84.8%)
Tough Choice Award: 25. Florian Xhekaj, 23.1%
Biggest Riser: 5. Adam Engstrom, 42.8% (+21)
Biggest Faller: 36. Ty Smilanic, 37.5% (-8)/39. Dmitri Kostenko, 45.2% (-8)
Undrafted Star: 31. Lucas Condotta
Late round gem: 4. Joshua Roy (5th round)
Treb's choice most overrated prospect: 23. Jan Mysak HM: 3. Logan Mailloux
Treb's choice most underrated prospect: 33. Petteri Nurmi HM: 26. Quentin Miller
Mike Cichy Trophy: Jack Smith
 
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Seb

All we are is Dustin Byfuglien
Jul 15, 2006
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I think Nurmi and Mysak are the most underrated prospect. I wouldn't be surprised if Nurmi jumped to top 25 next year.
 

Treb

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May 31, 2011
28,356
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Montreal
I think Nurmi and Mysak are the most underrated prospect. I wouldn't be surprised if Nurmi jumped to top 25 next year.

Agree on Nurmi.

But I don't see it with Mysak, especially if Houle is stays as a coach.
 

Seb

All we are is Dustin Byfuglien
Jul 15, 2006
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Agree on Nurmi.

But I don't see it with Mysak, especially if Houle is stays as a coach.

Up until the AHL he's been pretty great, especially in his last WJC. I'm not expecting him to be putting much points but he had decent numbers in the OHL.

I hope he figures it out at the Pro level!
 

Goldenhands

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Up until the AHL he's been pretty great, especially in his last WJC. I'm not expecting him to be putting much points but he had decent numbers in the OHL.

I hope he figures it out at the Pro level!
I wouldnt say Mysak has been great in junior. I havent watched him a ton with Hamilton, but always thought he was lacking skills. He is a hard worker and plays a nice 2-way game, but Ive never been much impressed personally, he is not a big guy either so Im wondering what role he is suited for. Always reminded me of a poor man Lehkonen, just think we have better prospects.
 

26Mats

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Jun 23, 2018
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I think Nurmi and Mysak are the most underrated prospect. I wouldn't be surprised if Nurmi jumped to top 25 next year.

Nurmi's seemed very poised and solid in the times I've seen him play.

But he's listed at 6'0 feet 167 lbs, isn't overly offensive, plays LD, and is an over-ager, so still definitely a long shot to have an impact on the Habs or have big trade value. But I'm rooting for him.
 

MrNasty

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Jun 13, 2007
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Final by position


Left Wing
Centre
Right Wing
(7) Heineman (RW)​
(6) Beck​
(4) Roy​
(8) Farrell (C)​
(12) Kidney​
(9) Mesar​
(17) Tuch​
(14) Kapanen​
(21) Simoneau​
(24) Guindon (C)​
(19) Rohrer (RW)​
(27) Legare​
(25) Xhekaj​
(20) Davidson​
(42) Gordin (C)​
(37) Harris​
(23) Mysak (LW)​
(40) Pitlick​
(29) Biondi​
(30) Eriksson​
(31) Condotta (LW)​
(36) Smilanic​
(44) Smith (RW)​
Left Defense
Right Defense
Goaltender
(1) Hutson​
(2) Reinbacher​
(10) Dobes​
(5) Engstrom​
(3) Mailloux​
(11) Fowler​
(13) Struble​
(18) Konyushkov​
(16) Primeau​
(15) Trudeau​
(35) Tourigny​
(26) Miller​
(22) Norlinder​
(43) Sobolev​
(28) Volokhin​
(32) Mittelstadt​
(38) Croteau​
(33) Nurmi​
(41) Vrbetic​
(34) Beaudin​
(39) Kostenko​
 

SOLR

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Jun 4, 2006
12,659
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Toronto / North York
Final by position


Left Wing
Centre
Right Wing
(7) Heineman (RW)​
(6) Beck​
(4) Roy​
(8) Farrell (C)​
(12) Kidney​
(9) Mesar​
(17) Tuch​
(14) Kapanen​
(21) Simoneau​
(24) Guindon (C)​
(19) Rohrer (RW)​
(27) Legare​
(25) Xhekaj​
(20) Davidson​
(42) Gordin (C)​
(37) Harris​
(23) Mysak (LW)​
(40) Pitlick​
(29) Biondi​
(30) Eriksson​
(31) Condotta (LW)​
(36) Smilanic​
(44) Smith (RW)​
Left Defense
Right Defense
Goaltender
(1) Hutson​
(2) Reinbacher​
(10) Dobes​
(5) Engstrom​
(3) Mailloux​
(11) Fowler​
(13) Struble​
(18) Konyushkov​
(16) Primeau​
(15) Trudeau​
(35) Tourigny​
(26) Miller​
(22) Norlinder​
(43) Sobolev​
(28) Volokhin​
(32) Mittelstadt​
(38) Croteau​
(33) Nurmi​
(41) Vrbetic​
(34) Beaudin​
(39) Kostenko​

I like our D depth, I like our G depth after this draft. Forwards however...sheesh, I'm not excited.
 

26Mats

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Jun 23, 2018
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I like our D depth, I like our G depth after this draft. Forwards however...sheesh, I'm not excited.
On the positive side, we fo have 4 good ones that have recently graduated: Suzuki, Caufield, Dach, Slaf - plus RHP, Newhook, and Ylonen.

But I would be a lot more optimistic if we had added Michkov and Dubois this offseason.
 

Miller Time

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Sep 16, 2004
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I like our D depth, I like our G depth after this draft. Forwards however...sheesh, I'm not excited.

Interesting...

I'm more bullish on our forwards than our goalies.

& with Suzuki, CC, Dach, Slaf, Newhook, RHP & Ylonen all under 24, the org. forward depth is pretty solid imo
 

DAChampion

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May 28, 2011
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The NHL part of our forwards is interesting, the AHL/pre-AHL part is not good.
I think it's fine.

The prospect pool includes a number of legitimate potential middle six forwards, which is great.

They can acquire one more top line forward by trade.
 

BehindTheTimes

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Jun 24, 2018
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I agree with the top3. After that, I’m not sure I would have Roy 4th. Our forward group leaves a lot to be desired. Not much interesting in that group imo. We will see how they develop.

I like our D depth, I like our G depth after this draft. Forwards however...sheesh, I'm not excited.
The forward group looks real weak imo.
 

JianYang

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Sep 29, 2017
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Awards:
AINEC Award: 2. David Reinbacher (84.8%)
Tough Choice Award: 25. Florian Xhekaj, 23.1%
Biggest Riser: 5. Adam Engstrom, 42.8% (+21)
Biggest Faller: 36. Ty Smilanic, 37.5% (-8)/39. Dmitri Kostenko, 45.2% (-8)
Undrafted Star: 31. Lucas Condotta
Late round gem: 4. Joshua Roy (5th round)
Treb's choice most overrated prospect: 23. Jan Mysak HM: 3. Logan Mailloux
Treb's choice most underrated prospect: 33. Petteri Nurmi HM: 26. Quentin Miller
Mike Cichy Trophy: Jack Smith

I wouldn't be surprised if engstrom is the biggest riser of all time.
 

Miller Time

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The NHL part of our forwards is interesting, the AHL/pre-AHL part is not good.

Meh.

I'd be surprised if our non- NHL forward prospect group is outside of the top tier league-wide... And of those with better pools, I'd bet that our <25 NHL group is better than most.

Relative to the league, our forward prospect group is quite strong.
 
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SOLR

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Meh.

I'd be surprised if our non- NHL forward prospect group is outside of the top tier league-wide... And of those with better pools, I'd bet that our <25 NHL group is better than most.

Relative to the league, our forward prospect group is quite strong.

I doubt that's true; our non-AHL is probably bottom 10. I can think of 15 better teams off the top of my head... It's not rocket science we've over-indexed in terms of picks for Ds while trading picks for young NHL forwards. I'm not after Hughes for this state of affairs (yet); it's a clear strategy. If we had traded #5 this year for Yager and Benson, our non-NHL group would be top 10 - those pools are always shallow.
 
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Miller Time

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I doubt that's true; our non-AHL is probably bottom 10. I can think of 15 better teams off the top of my head... It's not rocket science we've over-indexed in terms of picks for Ds while trading picks for young NHL forwards. I'm not after Hughes for this state of affairs (yet); it's a clear strategy. If we had traded #5 this year for Yager and Benson, our non-NHL group would be top 10 - those pools are always shallow.
Bottom 10? I doubt that. Perhaps I'm simply more bullish on our group then you are :dunno:

What we lack in elite talent, we more than make up in depth.

Time will tell, but I'd bet on this group ending up top 10 in NHL games played ten years from now.
 

SOLR

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Bottom 10? I doubt that. Perhaps I'm simply more bullish on our group then you are :dunno:

What we lack in elite talent, we more than make up in depth.

Time will tell, but I'd bet on this group ending up top 10 in NHL games played ten years from now.

That doesn't say much. It might mean we'll suck for the next 10 years; therefore, we'll keep rotating bad players in the NHL teams (look at how many players are used by worst tanking teams vs. the top NHL teams).

There's just 1 first-rounder in that group who is not going stellar right now, let's face it (I'm not saying Mesar can't turn it around).
In our 4x 2nd rounders. Kidney/Tuch seems like likely future busts to me. Beck and Hein are promising.
Our other promising players, Farrell and Roy, look like middle 6 forwards; we will see how they develop.

Yes, of course, Slafkovski, Dach and Newhook, we'll see if they can settle into franchise-pushing roles, an expectation that comes with the value of the draft assets we exchanged for them.

For the record, we are 2 years into this rebuild without anything sure added at forward.
 
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