WJC: 2023 Czech Team

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I can't stand Hadamczak and have no faith in him.

This move seems like madness to me. All he is talking about is saving money and auditing which may be necessary but it feels like we hired a nerdy accountant and not a hockey man.

It is all about money and lobbying. The clubs which helped Hadamczik become the president of the federation just want to play the top junior league. That's all. Nobody wants to play "only" the second league. Doesn't matter who the president of the federation currently is, money will always talk in the first place.
 
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It is all about money and lobbying. The clubs which helped Hadamczik become the president of the federation just want to play the top junior league. That's all. Nobody wants to play "only" the second league. Doesn't matter who the president of the federation currently is, money will always talk in the first place.
Do you think Hadamczak is or will do a good job?

I'd love it if we had a good Czech junior league but more teams doesn't seem the way to do it to me. Same with second league, would leave to see that be a place for good prospects like Sale to play and still be seen by scouts but that isn't happening either.
 

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Do you think Hadamczak is or will do a good job?

I'd love it if we had a good Czech junior league but more teams doesn't seem the way to do it to me. Same with second league, would leave to see that be a place for good prospects like Sale to play and still be seen by scouts but that isn't happening either.

As I said, nobody is going to substantially change this. It is so much about clientelism. The president and other representatives of the federation need to mantain support from the clubs. The bigger clubs want to play the elite junior league. The lesser regional clubs want to send their prospects to the bigger clubs which play the elite league. Simply, virtually all influential bodies in Czech hockey have their interest in having the elite junior league with as many teams as possible. I think the Czech Ice Hockey Federation is a strange residue of the old, "socialist" model of organization, with a strong centralized body and shady rules of inner competition, somehow surviving as the last dinosaur in the environs of market economy. It will never work well and the results for the Czech hockey will never be good.
 
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I think we play Latvia today (they beat us this summer)... I don't think it is being broadcast though. If it is, let us know!
 

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I can't stand Hadamczak and have no faith in him.

This move seems like madness to me. All he is talking about is saving money and auditing which may be necessary but it feels like we hired a nerdy accountant and not a hockey man.
The problem with Hadamczik is that he is a vindictive person and he cares about himself first. That's why he held a press conference about the audit, where he gave distorted information to damage his predecessors. It seems that the big misfortune is that Dedek and Hadamzcik are partners, it will definitely not calm the situation and the power struggle will continue and Hadamczik is only there for two years. And even though Hadamczik took things out of the audit and said what was wrong, he didn't want to press charges against people from the executive committee. Already at this moment, I thought he was up to something, because if he did, those people wouldn't have allowed him to do what he just did and he wouldn't have added two teams to the junior extra league.

The funny thing is that with the junior extra league, there will always be one or two teams at the bottom of the table who are unhappy and so they will look for a way to keep their team in the league. Years ago it was Jihlava, now it looks like Olomouc. Personally, I would reduce the number of teams in the junior league to 12 or 14, with the fact that the number will not change for the next three years, under no circumstances, and no one can create pressure to keep their team and invent reasons for it. This lobbying is another of a series of things that the hockey world has grown up not doing because it doesn't need to. Are you the worst in the table and will you be relegated to the second division? So win the second league and you're back. The sporting aspect must always come first, if it's not, you're just creating unequal conditions between clubs and damaging your own product. And this also significantly reduces the motivation of clubs to do good hockey and educate players for the highest junior competition, when they see what the federation itself is doing.
 

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The problem with Hadamczik is that he is a vindictive person and he cares about himself first. That's why he held a press conference about the audit, where he gave distorted information to damage his predecessors. It seems that the big misfortune is that Dedek and Hadamzcik are partners, it will definitely not calm the situation and the power struggle will continue and Hadamczik is only there for two years. And even though Hadamczik took things out of the audit and said what was wrong, he didn't want to press charges against people from the executive committee. Already at this moment, I thought he was up to something, because if he did, those people wouldn't have allowed him to do what he just did and he wouldn't have added two teams to the junior extra league.

The funny thing is that with the junior extra league, there will always be one or two teams at the bottom of the table who are unhappy and so they will look for a way to keep their team in the league. Years ago it was Jihlava, now it looks like Olomouc. Personally, I would reduce the number of teams in the junior league to 12 or 14, with the fact that the number will not change for the next three years, under no circumstances, and no one can create pressure to keep their team and invent reasons for it. This lobbying is another of a series of things that the hockey world has grown up not doing because it doesn't need to. Are you the worst in the table and will you be relegated to the second division? So win the second league and you're back. The sporting aspect must always come first, if it's not, you're just creating unequal conditions between clubs and damaging your own product. And this also significantly reduces the motivation of clubs to do good hockey and educate players for the highest junior competition, when they see what the federation itself is doing.
Great writeup.. thank you.

To me it just looks like Hadamczak is corrupt and will do corrupt things while saying 'saving money for the youth'.

So far his big hockey move was to make Junior hockey worse and piss off everyone. I'm trying to keep an open mind but he's a shady character and always has been.

Even this vote.. 8 out of 20 voted yes, 2 voted no and 10 didn't vote... why not? Can we not do this stuff online? Is it that hard to fill out a google form?lol
 
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I will be in attendance tonight Czechia vs Latvia in Halifax.

I’ll post my analysis on the players and team at the end of the game. Go Czechia!


It says Kulich has joined but won't be playing tonight (sorry) and Jiricek 'should' join but you won't see him either. It could be argued they are our 2 best players. I mean, I'd argue it.lol
 

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It says Kulich has joined but won't be playing tonight (sorry) and Jiricek 'should' join but you won't see him either. It could be argued they are our 2 best players. I mean, I'd argue it.lol

Awww that’s unfortunate.

I’m still looking forward to seeing Stanislav Svozil, David Spacek, Jakub Brabenec, Matyas Sapovaliv, David Moravec, Oliver Satny if he’s in nets, and more.

And there’s a guy named “Marcel Marcel” lol

They should have no problem beating Latvia, they have good defence.

Ill be looking forward to seeing Jiricek and Kulich next week then!
 
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It says Kulich has joined but won't be playing tonight (sorry) and Jiricek 'should' join but you won't see him either. It could be argued they are our 2 best players. I mean, I'd argue it.lol

It looks like Jiříček has yet to play another game in the AHL. While the players of the other national teams have been training with their teams for a long time.. Well, no one has been injured yet, David, good luck..
 

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Awww that’s unfortunate.

I’m still looking forward to seeing Stanislav Svozil, David Spacek, Jakub Brabenec, Matyas Sapovaliv, David Moravec, Oliver Satny if he’s in nets, and more.

And there’s a guy named “Marcel Marcel” lol

They should have no problem beating Latvia, they have good defence.

Ill be looking forward to seeing Jiricek and Kulich next week then!
They beat us 5-2 in summer so we'll see.

nice list of guys to see... don't forget Sturtcz! He's poised for a good tourney I hope.

Nice to see a Moravec fan... I was disapointed he didn't get drafted. Tihachek is good too but small so I understood that one.
 
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Nice to see a Moravec fan... I was disapointed he didn't get drafted. Tihachek is good too but small so I understood that one.
He’s been playing with the Mooseheads, so I’ve gotten a good look at him. This is a great opportunity for him and I’m excited to see him on this stage.
 

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Great writeup.. thank you.

To me it just looks like Hadamczak is corrupt and will do corrupt things while saying 'saving money for the youth'.

So far his big hockey move was to make Junior hockey worse and piss off everyone. I'm trying to keep an open mind but he's a shady character and always has been.

Even this vote.. 8 out of 20 voted yes, 2 voted no and 10 didn't vote... why not? Can we not do this stuff online? Is it that hard to fill out a google form?lol
If you think about it, is the number of teams in ELJ the biggest problem of Czech hockey? This is just ridiculous in itself, that you vote to reduce the number of teams and when someone can lose their team, it immediately creates pressure to change the format of the competition. A long time ago, there could have been a rule that with any change in the number of teams, it would be left for two or three years and then the benefit of the change would be evaluated. If it existed, no club could seek a change, the federation would not be for clowns and clubs can work with some concept... in this situation where there are five changes in six years... what motivation does it give clubs? When someone decides to make a change again.. this instability will not help anyone or anything, at most a few people who are not interested in hockey as a whole but only in their club.

If the full number of 20 people voted, I believe that it would not pass and no change would be possible. But Hadamczik did it smartly, first he released information about the audit, and only then it became clear that there would be a change in the number of teams in ELJ. So for a week, people and journalists had articles about Kral and finance, and in between came this bombshell.

Hadamczik has a mandate for two years, during those two years he had and actually still has to convince all the people in Czech hockey that he is interested in hockey. So far, what he has done is cancel the program of regional trainers, but he has not offered any alternative. He had to do the audit, it was one of the conditions of the election conference, and therefore he increased the number of teams in ELJ. This is not how I imagine a president who cares about hockey, rather about his own benefit and, unfortunately, corruption.

There is a desperate lack of money in Czech hockey, the price of energy threatens the existence of many clubs and there are no new stadiums, they even have to close them somewhere. Also, there is still no connection school+hockey. These are issues that the hockey movement urgently needs to address, not how many teams will play in the competition. If Hadamczik does not defend the post of chairman in two years, then he cannot cry that he was not given time and chance. I hope that what he is doing now will open the eyes of many delegates and he will not be the chairman.
 

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Jiříček will probably join just before the first tournament game vs. Canada, I expect he won't be playing any pre-tournament games. Kulich won't play tonight but perhaps he could play the second game.
 

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Czechia takes the lead! 2-1

Martins Lavins on Latvia levelled somebody, helmet came off and the guy went straight to the bench, looked alright though, David Moravec had a few words. No calls.

 

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Kulich, Jiříček, Šalé, Kos, Svozil, Špaček not in the line-up tonight. Apparently some room for players who are not locks for the tournament line-up.
Sale is kind of dumb... small rink and he could use 2 games to get used to it. I don't care if you put him on 3rd line but get him comfortable on the small ice.
 
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Here is the lineup...

People won't believe me but that D lineup for this game is about typical of what we've had in the last decade. Luckily we have some healthy scratches in the stands.
 

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First of all.. thank you so much.

Second of all.. who is our goalie? Satny, Kral or Suchanek? I assume they switch halfway
Kral started, Satny came in half way through the 2nd

Also Czechia nearly got a lucky chance, Latvia nearly scored on their own net during a delayed penalty. It was very close. Lol

And you’re welcome, it’s 3-2 Czechia 1 minute left in 2nd
 

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