Speculation: 2023-24 Sharks Roster Discussion

[coooldude]

I live in Denver so I'm a bit biased. SLC is pretty cool. It's a small city from a "going out" perspective but it's incredible for the mountains and outdoors (better than the bay) and while the Mormon population "shrinks" the city if you're not Mormon, it's a lot more progressive/modern of a city than people think. I have some very party heavy friends who live there and love it. It's also only 4 hours to Vegas if people want to party (or a nothing flight). 30 minutes to the best skiing in North America. 5-15min to real mountains for hiking, MTN biking, and some skiing is even that close. It's not a long drive from Colorado, and the national parks in Utah are some of the best in the world.

 

[Eggdoh]

I haven't spent time in Salt Lake, but Park City is great, and I can second that Utah's National Parks are fantastic. There are far worse places to live.

 

[Shark Finn]

I've been hearing good things about Utah recently. Been in Colorado and Georgia with the Military past few years and everyone I met spoke very highly of Utah. Supposedly the Mormon thing isn't as in your face as you'd think.

Even then, given where we are in the rebuild, the only guy I would want is probably Shea Weber. I don't give a shit if he stays on LTIR. Just someone to work with the young guys and set the culture. An old hand to keep them honest, help them take their game to the next level, and help them deal with the 82-game grind. That's what we need right now. Dudes to build culture and hold people accountable.

Guy hasn't played since the 2020-2021 season. I wonder how much he is involved with the team he's employed by at this point.

 

[weastern bias]

 

[Shark Finn]

You ought to change this to your avatar.

 

[FinnishCoyote]

Even then, given where we are in the rebuild, the only guy I would want is probably Shea Weber. I don't give a shit if he stays on LTIR. Just someone to work with the young guys and set the culture. An old hand to keep them honest, help them take their game to the next level, and help them deal with the 82-game grind. That's what we need right now. Dudes to build culture and hold people accountable.

I doubt that Weber has even visited Arizona after he was traded here. That was purely a trade to put us over the cap floor

 

[barriers]

 

[Sandisfan]

We can see already that Quinn Hates Jack Thompson.

 

[LadyStanley]

Yes, our current position is comparable to Toronto and not comparable to Vegas..

Do not have the income of TML. Also, don't have the fishbowl of TO.

Better weather.

[SLC] is also only 4 hours to Vegas if people want to party (or a nothing flight).

Alexa tells me it's nearly 6 hours to drive from Vegas to SLC, so they either must live on the outskirts or go WAY over the speed limit. Flying about 1:30 plus security, etc.

 

[coooldude]

Alexa tells me it's nearly 6 hours to drive from Vegas to SLC, so they either must live on the outskirts or go WAY over the speed limit. Flying about 1:30 plus security, etc.

Ah, you're right, that was off the top of my head and I was probably comping SLC to Zion, or something. the 1h20-1h30 flight is just the buffer time... the wheels up time is <60min I'm fairly sure.

Either way, UT is pretty great and if you love partying, you can party there, or Vegas, or go back to Phoenix. My point was simply that SLC isn't some fundamentalist hellhole like many assume.

 

[jMoneyBrah]

Ah, you're right, that was off the top of my head and I was probably comping SLC to Zion, or something. the 1h20-1h30 flight is just the buffer time... the wheels up time is <60min I'm fairly sure.

Either way, UT is pretty great and if you love partying, you can party there, or Vegas, or go back to Phoenix. My point was simply that SLC isn't some fundamentalist hellhole like many assume.

DON’T TRY TO EDUCATE MAH BIGOTRY!!! rabble, rabble, rabble…

I’ll form my opinion on a location, using minimal input, with as much generalization as possible. I’ll do it exactly one time, and never revisit it again; thank you very much.



/s in case it was unclear.

In all seriousness I learned a few things about SLC/Utah over the last few days, thanks to posts like yours, that make it sound decently cool and a for sure a place to check out.

I’m about as far from the “outdoorsy type” as one could possibly be. But having some young children makes me feel like I’ve got some trips to destinations like Utah in my future because I’m supposed to give them a “well rounded” and “stimulating” upbringing. To my chagrin, some camping or outdoor oriented vacations are probably in my intermediate future; in the name of promoting their healthy engagement with the non-digital world; even though, let’s be honest, by the time they’re my age everyone will be recliner bound content consumers ala WALL-E or living in the Matrix. These are the only two possible outcomes.

 

[SjMilhouse]

DON’T TRY TO EDUCATE MAH BIGOTRY!!! rabble, rabble, rabble…

I’ll form my opinion on a location, using minimal input, with as much generalization as possible. I’ll do it exactly one time, and never revisit it again; thank you very much.



/s in case it was unclear.

In all seriousness I learned a few things about SLC/Utah over the last few days, thanks to posts like yours, that make it sound decently cool and a for sure a place to check out.

I’m about as far from the “outdoorsy type” as one could possibly be. But having some young children makes me feel like I’ve got some trips to destinations like Utah in my future because I’m supposed to give them a “well rounded” and “stimulating” upbringing. To my chagrin, some camping or outdoor oriented vacations are probably in my intermediate future; in the name of promoting their healthy engagement with the non-digital world; even though, let’s be honest, by the time they’re my age everyone will be recliner bound content consumers ala WALL-E or living in the Matrix. These are the only two possible outcomes.

I can be the resident Utah Ambassador....all I've done since the news leaked has been fight back against really bad and uninformed opinions or beliefs about the place.

I traveled a lot growing up but leaving the Bay Area and actually living somewhere else was huge for me in understanding 1. There are other cool places you can live in life and be just as happy and 2. People have VERY different life experiences based on where they are from that greatly influences their view of the world.

You can take basically anything you've read about the city or state from this board and ignore it unless it came from someone who also said "I live here". It does not smell...which I've read a bunch and I still can't figure out why people keep saying that, you can drink on Sunday after 6pm, there are more than 200k/400k/600k people within a realistic metro that would attend games, ~50% of the state is Mormon which is a lot but not everyone, polygamy is not a thing outside of a very very tiny subset of the Church and part of a small sect (FLDS) that mainstream Mormons do not like being associated with.

If you visit, check out the National Parks. 3-4 hour drives from SLC proper but Zion is up there with Yosemite in terms of National Parks having been to both. Arches/Bryce are super unique landscape and also amazing.

 

[jMoneyBrah]

I can be the resident Utah Ambassador....all I've done since the news leaked has been fight back against really bad and uninformed opinions or beliefs about the place.

I traveled a lot growing up but leaving the Bay Area and actually living somewhere else was huge for me in understanding 1. There are other cool places you can live in life and be just as happy and 2. People have VERY different life experiences based on where they are from that greatly influences their view of the world.

You can take basically anything you've read about the city or state from this board and ignore it unless it came from someone who also said "I live here". It does not smell...which I've read a bunch and I still can't figure out why people keep saying that, you can drink on Sunday after 6pm, there are more than 200k/400k/600k people within a realistic metro that would attend games, ~50% of the state is Mormon which is a lot but not everyone, polygamy is not a thing outside of a very very tiny subset of the Church and part of a small sect (FLDS) that mainstream Mormons do not like being associated with.

If you visit, check out the National Parks. 3-4 hour drives from SLC proper but Zion is up there with Yosemite in terms of National Parks having been to both. Arches/Bryce are super unique landscape and also amazing.

I see your yeoman’s work

 

[sharski]

I demand an SLC-Vegas rivalry

 

[one2gamble]

I demand an SLC-Vegas rivalry

Cant wait for the SLC vs Vegas winter classic in Tahoe.

 

[pappaf2]

I demand an SLC-Vegas rivalry

Sinners vs Saints! A tale as old as time!

 

[tiburon12]

I can be the resident Utah Ambassador....all I've done since the news leaked has been fight back against really bad and uninformed opinions or beliefs about the place.

I traveled a lot growing up but leaving the Bay Area and actually living somewhere else was huge for me in understanding 1. There are other cool places you can live in life and be just as happy and 2. People have VERY different life experiences based on where they are from that greatly influences their view of the world.

You can take basically anything you've read about the city or state from this board and ignore it unless it came from someone who also said "I live here". It does not smell...which I've read a bunch and I still can't figure out why people keep saying that, you can drink on Sunday after 6pm, there are more than 200k/400k/600k people within a realistic metro that would attend games, ~50% of the state is Mormon which is a lot but not everyone, polygamy is not a thing outside of a very very tiny subset of the Church and part of a small sect (FLDS) that mainstream Mormons do not like being associated with.

If you visit, check out the National Parks. 3-4 hour drives from SLC proper but Zion is up there with Yosemite in terms of National Parks having been to both. Arches/Bryce are super unique landscape and also amazing.

Utah is a place I've considered as one to plant roots if I ever repatriate. I'll be ringing your bell should that happen

 

[SjMilhouse]

Utah is a place I've considered as one to plant roots if I ever repatriate. I'll be ringing your bell should that happen

Happy to chat. It's definitely not for everyone, although a lot of that tends to be politically motivated I think and if you are super anti religion that aspect probably bugs you more than others as we do have a pseudo-theocracy (in my opinion) but it's really just the same as any super conservative state. With that said, you don't really notice it in terms of day to day living if you aren't part of groups being targeted. Basically all my friends are either Mormon or LGBTQ which is an interesting dynamic. I've never seen anyone discriminate against my LGBTQ friends and their experience has been the same as other states they've visited with more just ignorance than outright discrimination.

Honestly the only thing that I have issue with is 1. We get really bad inversion so air quality is miserable and definitely harmful long term and 2. I've heard having kids here can be challenging due to the large LDS population which can lead to kids either feeling excluded or being outright excluded from some social circles but I don't know how true that is and may vary based on districts

I'm my opinion, none of the issues should impact the ability for a team to do well here or attract free agents outside of just bias from players/families on what they've heard but not actually experienced. My hope is players come here and love it and share that with other but we won't know until it's been a thing for a few years

 

[LadyStanley]

 

[LadyStanley]

 

[LadyStanley]

Check out this Podcast: The Finish + The Start The Finish + The Start

Last Morning Tide pod of the season.

Lots of roster discussion

 

[themelkman]

That Burns Trade is pretty awful looking back

 

[BaileyMacTavish]

That Burns Trade is pretty awful looking back

At least we got cap space back but yeah this trade was asscheeks when it happened even with context and it's asscheeks now.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

That Burns Trade is pretty awful looking back

I'm still very much okay with the trade even with nothing materializing with our return. We did Burns a solid and he earned that. It was going to be very difficult to expect significant value from a player his age with his contract.

 

[OrrNumber4]

A little bit of racialism on my part, but Gushchin reminds me of Alexander Korolyuk. Perhaps a less talented version...