GDT: 2023-24 season game 56 LA Kings vs Anaheim Ducks @7:30pm 2/24/24

[mysterman2]

good string of wins and Hiller has shown he is fluid in his decision making for OT lineups and the shootout. Looking at standings it kills me how many regulations losses Kings had where getting the game into OT was almost formality with textbook coaching. Wont beat the horse but in that losing streak there were probably a good 4-5 points left on the table. moot point if Kings take care of their own business, Monday will be huge.

 

[unicornpig]

So you're blaming a rookie for the Kings teamwide slump? He was far from the worst of the problems. It's on the job training for him, like any straight out of college rookie. His season is very much like when AI started with the Kings. He'll end up with about 25 points and be better next year.

i dont see how you read his post and interpreted as he was the reason for the slump. the kids all have to pay their dues yet laf some how is immune to it. AI is a very good comparable.

 

[tny760]

stop taking the bait

 

[Fripp]

He'll cancel out his goal eventually. Give it time.

Nailed it.

 

[FrozenKing18]

Kaliyev and coaches need to start working on his shot. He’s getting chances but missing the target.

 

[Brownie to Pancakes]

So, Kaliyev, same kid who missed 3-4 wide open shots last night? and Turcotte who has 1 NHL goal, and that was a bank in off the goalies ass....?

I get it, I want Kaliyev and Turcotte to succeed, Kaliyev played well last night, let's see 50 games of that vs 2 or 3, Turcotte, has played well, don't know why he didn't play last night...

But you want the kids to play, but only the kids you want to watch play, you'd rather have Laferriere in the AHL....than learning in the NHL ?

He's got more goals than Kaliyev, but he has to go down to learn to score?

Kaliyev has got a lower average TOI and 15 fewer games played. "More goals" is not a legitimate metric for this scenario and if you were a good faith poster you'd admit it. If Kaliyev had Laf's deployment he'd be outscoring him handily. Really what I want is for Kaliyev and Turcotte to get the same opportunity Laffy is getting. I suspect he's getting it because he's a right shot, not because his play on the top 6 deserves it.

Kaliyev played well last night and he's gripping his stick too tightly because he's been jerked around to the point where he probably thinks he has to be perfect to stay in the lineup. Don't you agree he would probably play looser if he had a secure spot? Clarke is playing like that too, silver lining of the Anderson injury is it forces him into the lineup everyday so he can find his way through it.

Turcotte's first goal was a top shelf dart over the blocker, not sure what you're talking about.

 

[tny760]

Kaliyev has got a lower average TOI and 15 fewer games played. "More goals" is not a legitimate metric for this scenario and if you were a good faith poster you'd admit it. If Kaliyev had Laf's deployment he'd be outscoring him handily. Really what I want is for Kaliyev and Turcotte to get the same opportunity Laffy is getting. I suspect he's getting it because he's a right shot, not because his play on the top 6 deserves it.

Kaliyev played well last night and he's gripping his stick too tightly because he's been jerked around to the point where he probably thinks he has to be perfect to stay in the lineup. Don't you agree he would probably play looser if he had a secure spot? Clarke is playing like that too, silver lining of the Anderson injury is it forces him into the lineup everyday so he can find his way through it.

Turcotte's first goal was a top shelf dart over the blocker, not sure what you're talking about.

he's STRANGLING that f***in stick

who else have you ever seen miss a shot then almost break their stick on the boards? he thinks missing that shot is career-ending and i don't blame him because todd basically treated him that way. growth every game is what we're seeing right now. haven't seen anyone spin on the blue line and create a grade A like that outside of kempe and byfield

 

[FSL KINGS]

King's pick up 2 points on a night off.

Love 61,11,9! Lewis getting rewarded after getting stuck with JAD most of the game.

 

[Sol]

Watching Kaliyev last night man i feel so bad for him. Dudes confidence has cratered. He was trying so much yesterday but was completely over thinking everything. This organization ruined one of the rare snipers they got for not being a grinder. What a joke. I hope he puts it together and is given a real chance now that Todd is gone. And if it’s on another team I will hope he scores a goal every time he plays against the Kings. It’s so f***ed up.

 

[Herby]

Kaliyev and coaches need to start working on his shot. He’s getting chances but missing the target.

Or maybe he's spending to much time working with the staff...

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Kaliyev has got a lower average TOI and 15 fewer games played. "More goals" is not a legitimate metric for this scenario and if you were a good faith poster you'd admit it. If Kaliyev had Laf's deployment he'd be outscoring him handily. Really what I want is for Kaliyev and Turcotte to get the same opportunity Laffy is getting. I suspect he's getting it because he's a right shot, not because his play on the top 6 deserves it.

Kaliyev played well last night and he's gripping his stick too tightly because he's been jerked around to the point where he probably thinks he has to be perfect to stay in the lineup. Don't you agree he would probably play looser if he had a secure spot? Clarke is playing like that too, silver lining of the Anderson injury is it forces him into the lineup everyday so he can find his way through it.

Turcotte's first goal was a top shelf dart over the blocker, not sure what you're talking about.

Easy one first, Turcotte's first goal, I may be mistaken on, but I thought it was recent and it was a "dirty" goal....

As far as TOI....13:11 total TOI with 00:40 TOI on the PP for Laf, and 12:53 total TOI and 1:40 TOI on the PP for Kaliyev, not sure that's the best argument to make, if a total difference of 20 seconds is the difference.

Kaliyev absolutely is gripping his stick too tight, and has been jerked around, but when he gets those opportunities, he HAS to bury them, because that is supposedly his BEST asset, when you compare Laf and Kaliyev, Laf has the edge on EVERY facet of the game, except, goal scoring/shot etc, so when Kaliyev can't convert on the one thing he is good at.....what do you do?

I'm not arguing Kaliyev should sit, I think he should play more, that QB,PLD, and Kaliyev was dangerous...I want more of that, I'm saying sending Laf down to "learn how to score" while arguing that we should be playing the kids is a bit....ironic if I am gonna be nice.

 

[tny760]

laf hasn't converted in a bit while getting favorable deployments, maybe he could stand to play down in depth for a while where the competition is easier and the expectations aren't the same. doesn't have to be trash one to pump up the other, maybe now you give turc the same fair shake you gave laf and are in the process of giving to kaliyev

i don't think JAD or lewis elevate themselves if moved up the lineup, i do think kaliyev and turc will. logical endpoint: sit one of laf, JAD, lewis for a period of time and give someone else a shot up there. kaliyev's getting that now with the PLDv2.0 line, you can simultaneously fidget with another line and still retain your strong 4th line/PK since you have lizotte in the lineup

Or maybe he's spending to much time working with the staff...

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arty doesn't strike me as the molly type..

 

[Statto]

Easy one first, Turcotte's first goal, I may be mistaken on, but I thought it was recent and it was a "dirty" goal....

As far as TOI....13:11 total TOI with 00:40 TOI on the PP for Laf, and 12:53 total TOI and 1:40 TOI on the PP for Kaliyev, not sure that's the best argument to make, if a total difference of 20 seconds is the difference.

Kaliyev absolutely is gripping his stick too tight, and has been jerked around, but when he gets those opportunities, he HAS to bury them, because that is supposedly his BEST asset, when you compare Laf and Kaliyev, Laf has the edge on EVERY facet of the game, except, goal scoring/shot etc, so when Kaliyev can't convert on the one thing he is good at.....what do you do?

I'm not arguing Kaliyev should sit, I think he should play more, that QB,PLD, and Kaliyev was dangerous...I want more of that, I'm saying sending Laf down to "learn how to score" while arguing that we should be playing the kids is a bit....ironic if I am gonna be nice.

Turcottes goal was a beautiful finish.

 

[chris kontos]

I feel like ive already written too much on kaliyev but id just like to add that his career trajectory and handling by the king is an outstanding reflection on exactly how f***ed up the kings organization is.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

I feel like ive already written too much on kaliyev but id just like to add that his career trajectory and handling by the king is an outstanding reflection on exactly how f***ed up the kings organization is.

Really? Ok, so then if we are taking one player.....why Kaliyev, why not Byfield? Why not Mikey Andersson? Why not Alex Laferriere....why Kaliyev,

And to further that, at what point does a player take responsibility for their own career? I mean if the organization is so f***ed by career trajectorys and handling, why aren't Byfield, Andersson and Laf f***ed? Or are they?

Turcottes goal was a beautiful finish.

Fair enough, I must have been mistaken, I remember him being front and center in a jam/bank play some reason I thought that was his goal he got credited for

 

[Ghetty Green]

Nice job Rittich

 

[psych3man]

So you're blaming a rookie for the Kings teamwide slump? He was far from the worst of the problems. It's on the job training for him, like any straight out of college rookie. His season is very much like when AI started with the Kings. He'll end up with about 25 points and be better next year.

Where anywhere did he blame a rookie for a team wide slump??
This exaggerated drama of putting words and thoughts in other people's mouth they never said or thought gets tiring. Please stick to their literal words and meaning.

 

[GameNight]

So you're blaming a rookie for the Kings teamwide slump? He was far from the worst of the problems. It's on the job training for him, like any straight out of college rookie. His season is very much like when AI started with the Kings. He'll end up with about 25 points and be better next year.

No. Most teams will tend to remove their young first year players away from bad situations. There wasn't anything for him to learn from that locker room other than Losing Breeds Losing.

 

[kingsfan28]

No. Most teams will tend to remove their young first year players away from bad situations. There wasn't anything for him to learn from that locker room other than Losing Breeds Losing.

If that's the case, explain the Hawks , Ducks, Blue Jackets and other who are starting their top picks, all the while losing 7-8 games in a row and getting blown out most nights. That's sounds like a pretty bad situation to me.

 

[GameNight]

If that's the case, explain the Hawks , Ducks, Blue Jackets and other who are starting their top picks, all the while losing 7-8 games in a row and getting blown out most nights. That's sounds like a pretty bad situation to me.

Well, somebody's gotta play for those teams right?

Like somebody out there has gotta read your posts

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

No. Most teams will tend to remove their young first year players away from bad situations. There wasn't anything for him to learn from that locker room other than Losing Breeds Losing.

Wow, most horrible take I’ve read in a long time.

There’s nothing to learn or gain from adversity? You act like no other good team in the league had ever had a slump.

Should the Ducks send down all their youth because they lose every game?

 

[Sol]

Wow, most horrible take I’ve read in a long time.

There’s nothing to learn or gain from adversity? You act like no other good team in the league had ever had a slump.

Should the Ducks send down all their youth because they lose every game?

Do you black out when you write your posts ?

 

[chris kontos]

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[Axl Rhoadz]

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You seem to do this a lot.

 

[lak4ever]

Rittich kept that game 2-2.