2023-24 Roster Thread #8: A Cam York State of Mind

[freakydallas13]

As always, the Flyers as an organization (and our fanbase in general, since we will get there) are incapable of having a captain and should never have one again.

Scotty "Franchise" Laughton will be named Benevolent Eternal Captain for Life, and we'll be told to be thankful for the opportunity.

 

[Striiker]

When I cancelled my sub, my listed reason was his hiring (and gutting of Sixers coverage).

I tempted to sub just so I can unsub and fill in that exit survey.

 

[Striiker]

Is that a pun

Light mode users I swear

 

[Magua]

Light mode users I swear

 

[Striiker]

 

[usahockey22flyers]

Cam York is really good.

He’s a lot of fun to watch.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Cam York is really good.

He’s a lot of fun to watch.

I wonder when a dman drafted in his range has ever been so dead-on regarding expectations/predictions. "Definitely not a 1D, but will be reliable middle guy" is the kind of appraisal that ends with someone topping out as a #6. And so many were really confident about this.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Weird that Coots himself said he doesn’t know what Torts wants.

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

Weird that Coots himself said he doesn’t know what Torts wants.

TORTS communicates like Pacino in The Recruit. It's always a test.

 

[FromOyVey2Matvei]

Weird that Coots himself said he doesn’t know what Torts wants.

He wants Coots to punch him in the mouth, obviously.

 

[FromOyVey2Matvei]

On the bright side, that Tippett contact is really looking like it could shape up to be a bargain.

 

[FLYguy3911]

I thought for sure we'd get a Jtown cameo in this thread.

 

[Starat327]

I thought for sure we'd get a Jtown cameo in this thread.

Busy doing a root canal.

 

[Appleyard]

The timeline is really the strangest part.

Torts apparently barges into the Flyers FO and demands Couturier be made captain...
next game cuts his ice time from 18 minutes he has averaged over the previous 5 games to under 13 minutes...
has not played him more than ~16 minutes since...
he played ~4 games on 2nd line after the initial game of ice time cut, in the 4th game vs the Pens he set up two goals...
next game he is skating in the bottom six...
only has one point since...
last ~4-5 games he played he had been stapled to 4th line...
game before he was scratched he helped create a goal for Nick Deslauriers with some dogged play, almost sparked a comeback... but Couturier did not see ice after the shift where he set up the goal...
scratched next game.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Can’t wait for Tortorella to publicly complain about Couturier’s agent like he did Farabee’s last year.

 

[VladDrag]

Can’t wait for Tortorella to publicly complain about Couturier’s agent like he did Farabee’s last year.

That has to be coming from Couts, right? I mean, the agent had to clear it with Couts to talk to the media, right?

I am not actually asking you personally, more just speaking.

 

[Beef Invictus]

That has to be coming from Couts, right? I mean, the agent had to clear it with Couts to talk to the media, right?

I am not actually asking you personally, more just speaking.

What'd I miss

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

What'd I miss

As of Tuesday afternoon, Erik Lupien hadn’t spoken with his client about his getting pulled from the lineup. But he did speak with him several days ago when Couturier’s ice time had already been trending downward. Couturier was averaging about 20 minutes on Jan. 13; he’s at 16:10 per game since.

Couturier was puzzled by his diminished role even before Tuesday’s scratching.

“He was clueless about his ice time, why his ice time went down,” Lupien said. “But he said, ‘I’m just going to manage and play whatever he maybe wants me to play. If it’s 14 minutes, it’s going to be 14 minutes.’”

“Throughout last year and at the beginning of (this) year, in the conversations with Sean, he always told me that Tortorella and him had a pretty good relationship,” Lupien said. “As soon as we get through that character, he’s a pretty funny guy. And the conversations are good with him, and he knows what the team wants and what he wants from him.

“From my point of view, when I saw the news (Couturier was scratched), I’m like, I really hope the communication why and the reasons why are really clear. I hope he’s going to get an explanation soon because he’s the captain, a leader of the team, and he has ‘Philadelphia’ tattooed on his chest since he got drafted. That’s why he wanted to sign there and to sign a long contract. I hope he’s going to get that respect from John Tortorella.”

“Sean won’t learn anything by being in the bleachers tonight,” Lupien said. “He’s not a second-year pro that went through a cold streak. Sean is a leader and the captain of this team, so by putting him in the bleachers, for a player, he’s going to be ashamed to be there tonight. If there’s no communication of why between the two, in 2024, from my perspective, it ain’t always good to coach and establish regimental fear. And these guys are in the playoff picture.

“With your captain, you have to work together as a team. You want to send a message to the other guys, it has to go through your captain and your assistant. So now you’re not communicating with him. So, OK, what’s next?”

 

[BrindamoursNose]

The timeline is really the strangest part.

Torts apparently barges into the Flyers FO and demands Couturier be made captain...
next game cuts his ice time from 18 minutes he has averaged over the previous 5 games to under 13 minutes...
has not played him more than ~16 minutes since...
he played ~4 games on 2nd line after the initial game of ice time cut, in the 4th game vs the Pens he set up two goals...
next game he is skating in the bottom six...
only has one point since...
last ~4-5 games he played he had been stapled to 4th line...
game before he was scratched he helped create a goal for Nick Deslauriers with some dogged play, almost sparked a comeback... but Couturier did not see ice after the shift where he set up the goal...
scratched next game.

Sounds like Tortorella made himself a nice punching bag for the drama queen he is.

 

[Curufinwe]

The agent's language is plain, and not incendiary, but it's damning.

 

[bennysflyers16]

No one communicated with his players better than Torts, you just need to ignore the 10+ examples against it since he's been here.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Tortorella got mad at Farabee’s agent for going to Seravelli last year to publicly voice displeasure. He pinned it on the agent but in reality Farabee was unhappy & was on the verge of asking out. That’s part of why they wanted Hayes gone because Farabee was close with Hayes & they didn’t want to move Farabee at that time.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Let's see how they blame Gauthier and Hayes for this

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Let's see how they blame Gauthier and Hayes for this

The authentics are already claiming Couturier is another pampered core member from the Giroux era.