bsl
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We have been debating tanking here for 15 years. You are stumbling into a bar fight with no experience. Be careful.
Pre-Game Talk: 2023-2024 opening night roster set
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Habs Halifax
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Rebuild is on but so are the transition seasons. Fans might think we are tanking again but I don't think that's the plan from the players or Gorton/Hughes/MSL. They want progress and it doesn't have to be playoffs.
What are your personal expectations?
bsl
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It’s not your bad. You are a good thoughtful poster.
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Habs Halifax
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I always was stronger with numbers vs words. My entire life and the struggle is real lol.
Habs Halifax
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What are your plans to be a contender without going through the painful rebuild? Can you at least be constructive with your criticism? Otherwise, it comes off as ignorant whining.
bsl
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Yikes hf I just hit 10,000 posts. Most of them idiotic. Do I get a prize?
bsl
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Uh. Gallagher is still on the team because he was signed to a contract. See: NHL CBA. And the consequences Habs face if they break that contract. Yeesh.
Redux91
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To be honest, Gallagher at this point at best is a 4th liner, and he doesn't have much time left in the NHL.
HP should be on the 3rd line with more minutes on the ice and can definitely help generate offense with Monahan and Pearson
VirginiaMtlExpat
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Introspection is a rare quality on these boards.
Yep, as well as not traded away if his hips and groin hold up.
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Arpon even foreshadowed the Armia/Xhekaj switch to add salary.actually, arpon basu predicted dvorak going to the off season ltir just after the tanner pearson's trade
Canadiens open training camp with limited 'chairs.' Why Tanner Pearson has one
The Canadiens value Tanner Pearson's veteran presence and don't feel he will stand in the way of a deserving young player.theathletic.com
If the Canadiens were to place Dvorak on offseason LTIR, they would have no problem fitting Price on the roster to start the season and wouldn’t necessarily need to do much maneuvering in order to do so. No one would have to go on waivers and no one would need to be papered to Laval to fit Price’s $10.5 million on the roster. In fact, if the Canadiens went down this road, they might need to ensure they add salary prior to submitting their opening roster to ensure they use up as much of Dvorak’s LTIR space as they can.
Going about it this way would allow the Canadiens to place Price on in-season LTIR, and the closer they get to using all of Dvorak’s LTIR space on the season-opening roster, the more of Price’s $10.5 million salary would be available for them to play with afterward. And when Dvorak is ready to return, his salary would be absorbed by the cap space created by putting Price on in-season LTIR. Depending on how close the Canadiens get to the LTIR limit prior to the roster deadline, that would leave somewhere in the neighbourhood of $6 million in cap space for the rest of the season.
If in 18-24 months from now, we can say that Bredan Gallagher is the worst contract on our books...i'll take it.
Here is where I and a few others went wrong:
It is true that using no LTIR before the season is best if you want to maximize Price's $10.5M and use it in season.
But it is not possible to have the 23 man roster Hughes wants with only $73M of spend, excluding Price. We are at $77M, like it or not. So using Dvorak's $4.4M LTIR option instead of paper demotions and recalls has the advantage of avoiding ELC bonuses of the recalled players being counted on the cap.
When Dvorak returns, we will need to remove someone from the active roster. If we don't want to expose anyone to waivers, we could send RHP down until there is an injury to a F. But if RHP is playing well and deserves to stay, we could take the chance to waive Primeau, if no one around the league has lost a goalie. Or if Allen is crapping out, we could waive him. But I'll go with Primeau for this example.
Waiving Primeau and putting Wideman on LTIR as well will leave us with $8.024M of cap space under our adjusted limit (ACSL) of $83.389M.
We could use all that $8M of space (less some leeway for short-term injury callups), to acquire assets, provided we are ready to immediately waive Wideman or waive or demote some other expendable player, when Wideman is cleared to return.
The Gr8 Dane
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Let's get some boo birds going in the crowd when gally touches the puck on the PP.
No but seriously for sure somebody will be in Marty's ear asking him what the hell he is thinking if gally is still there after 2 weeks
No but seriously for sure somebody will be in Marty's ear asking him what the hell he is thinking if gally is still there after 2 weeks
Yes, just because a guy is on the PP or a certain line means nothing in Montreal..................man we change lines during a period!! LOL
Gally is being shown some respect, and let's hope he can earn the ice time on the PP from the beginning......if not, he wont be on it fairly soon...
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Nah, the moderators just beat you up.
I post so much because it's physical interaction between myself and other humans and I crave that, so I let them beat me up just to feel a connection...
I mean uhhh you get nothing and uhhh f*** the Leafs and uhhh f*** pumpkin spice, f*** squirrels, f*** trees, f*** you f*** me, f*** everybody.
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The idea is to be able to accrue Cap space for bonuses. Keeping Armia up after Dvorak's 4.45M went on LTIR is to come as close to the Cap ceiling as possible under this scenario.
With Dvorak back and Price on LTIR during the season, Montreal will have close to 6M in Cap space once Armia goes to Laval.
Habs Halifax
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Hopefully it's the only bad contract we have. I just find it sad to see him digress so much and I don't think the attacking fan types are going to let off. Always someone on our radar.
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When Dvo comes back, hopefully, either he or Monahan is the solution to the 1st line: Ideally it's Dvo, so Monahan can lead a strong 3rd line.
Caufield - Suzuki - Dvo/Monahan
Slaf - Dach - Newhook
RHP - Monahan/Dvo - Anderson
Gallagher - Evans - Ylonen
Pearson, Pez
Caufield - Suzuki - Dvo/Monahan
Slaf - Dach - Newhook
RHP - Monahan/Dvo - Anderson
Gallagher - Evans - Ylonen
Pearson, Pez
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