2021 NHL Fantasy Draft Discussion

[Carl182]

Teuvo-Miller-Batherson
Farabee-Suzuki-D.Brown
Erne-Coyle-Hartman
Nieto-Cizikas-Chiasson

Hedman-Carlo
Yandle*-Mayfield*
Chara-Fabbro*

Bobrovsky-Murray

I have a trade left, open to anything.
Could use an upgrade in net, not sure it's possible.

Other than the goalie issue, I think my team is semi decent and well balance. Hedman-Carlo is an incredible pairing in my mind.

 

[hockeynorth]

Nikolaj Ehlers - Sebastian Aho - Troy Terry
Evander Kane - Nick Schmaltz - Conor Garland
Marcus Foligno - Alex Kerfoot - Wayne Simmonds
Mason Marchment - Carl Soderberg - Ryan Donato

Mikhail Sergachev - Brett Pesce
Brady Skjei - Justin Faulk
Niklas Hjalmarsson - Dylan Coghlan

Chris Driedger
Frederik Andersen

I really like how this team turned out, my top six is very high tempo and should score in bunches and my bottom six all have roles and are pretty interchangeable. Defence should do well in transition and get pucks on net for rebounds, fitting into my strategy of guys who love it around the net. Driedger/Andersen should be a good tandem.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Z.Hyman - M.Scheifele - B. Boeser
R.Rakell - G.Vilardi - J.Silfverberg
B.McGinn - J. Staal - A. Lehkonen
S.Blais - N.Dowd - O.Sundqvist

M.Ferraro - D.Doughty
J.Brodin - P.Myers
J.Rathbone - D.Kukan

T. Jarry
C. DeSmith
​

Pretty happy overall with my team
but if I could go back and remake a couple picks I would.

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

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Alexis Lafreniere (6'2) - Bo Horvat (6'0) - David Pastrnak (6'0)
Chris Kreider (6'3) - Kirby Dach (6'4) - Anthony Mantha (6'5)
Pierre Engvall (6'5) - Adam Lowry (6'5) - Valeri Nichushkin (6'4)
Michael Rasmussen (6'6) - Quinton Byfield (6'4) - Kristian Vesalainen (6'3)

Josh Morrissey (6.0) - Adam Larsson (6'3)
Jonas Siegenthaler (6'3) - Tyler Myers (6'8)
Nikita Zadorov (6'6) - Dmitri Kulikov (6'1)

M. A. Fleury (6'2)
Alex Georgiev (6'1)


Cap hit; ~66
Cap space; ~9

Obviously at some point I lost my mind and just drafted size. As a result the D is a little sketchy but IMO a defensibly reliable group and they can all eat minutes. Not really a new age group for dynamic offense but hypothetically they should be able to keep Fleurys crease neat and tidy.

If you look at the D group as defensively capable then I think the team is a difficult group to play against with the size and speed at forward.

I mean....the size in the bottom 9 forwards is basically hilarious.

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[Paralyzer008]

Trevor Zegras - Jack Eichel - William Nylander
Johnny Gaudreau - Ryan Johansen - Nils Hoglander
Michael Bunting - Barclay Goodrow - Yegor Sharangovich
Peyton Krebs - Blake Lizotte - Brett Connolly

Zach Werenski - Brian Dumoulin
Mark Giordano - Evan Bouchard
Rasmus Sandin - Alexandre Carrier

Jordan Binnington
Kevin Lankinen

Lots of skill, I feel this team would be worth the price of admission.​

 

[emptyNedder]

Giroux (8.275M)---Barkov (5.9M)---Atkinson (5.875M)
Greenway (2.1M)---Pageau (5.0M)---Tarasenko (7.5M)
Asplund (.845)---Laughton (2.3M)--Moore (.775M)
Aston-Reese (1.0M)---Grant (1.5M)---Bozak (5M)

Lindgren (.925M)---Letang (7.25M)
Martinez (4.0M)---Clifton (1.0M)
Del Zotto (.700)---Poolman (.775M)

Nedeljkovic (.738M)
Reimer (3.4)​

Really well-balanced team. Atkinson should return to 30+ goals playing with two strong set-up men. Third and fourth lines are both defensively responsible with decent goal-scoring potential. I really think opponents will struggle to match-up as none of the lines are "easy" to play against. D pairings are physical with two 2-time cup winners still playing at their top level. The single most impactful event in hockey is the short-handed goal, which this team can do better than any.

 

[Panda Bear]

Giroux (8.275M)---Barkov (5.9M)---Atkinson (5.875M)
Greenway (2.1M)---Pageau (5.0M)---Tarasenko (7.5M)
Asplund (.845)---Laughton (2.3M)--Moore (.775M)
Aston-Reese (1.0M)---Grant (1.5M)---Bozak (5M)

Lindgren (.925M)---Letang (7.25M)
Martinez (4.0M)---Clifton (1.0M)
Del Zotto (.700)---Poolman (.775M)

Nedeljkovic (.738M)
Reimer (3.4)​

Really well-balanced team. Atkinson should return to 30+ goals playing with two strong set-up men. Third and fourth lines are both defensively responsible with decent goal-scoring potential. I really think opponents will struggle to match-up as none of the lines are "easy" to play against. D pairings are physical with two 2-time cup winners still playing at their top level. The single most impactful event in hockey is the short-handed goal, which this team can do better than any.

So you're one of those people.

 

[hockeynorth]

Giroux (8.275M)---Barkov (5.9M)---Atkinson (5.875M)
Greenway (2.1M)---Pageau (5.0M)---Tarasenko (7.5M)
Asplund (.845)---Laughton (2.3M)--Moore (.775M)
Aston-Reese (1.0M)---Grant (1.5M)---Bozak (5M)

Lindgren (.925M)---Letang (7.25M)
Martinez (4.0M)---Clifton (1.0M)
Del Zotto (.700)---Poolman (.775M)

Nedeljkovic (.738M)
Reimer (3.4)​

Really well-balanced team. Atkinson should return to 30+ goals playing with two strong set-up men. Third and fourth lines are both defensively responsible with decent goal-scoring potential. I really think opponents will struggle to match-up as none of the lines are "easy" to play against. D pairings are physical with two 2-time cup winners still playing at their top level. The single most impactful event in hockey is the short-handed goal, which this team can do better than any.

> says team can score lots of shorties
> team needs to first take lots of penalties to be short handed
> meaning you put the guys who score shorties in box to be short handed
> go up against good power plays
> may score a few shorties but have to let a bunch of PP goals in to do that

 

[emptyNedder]

> says team can score lots of shorties
> team needs to first take lots of penalties to be short handed
> meaning you put the guys who score shorties in box to be short handed
> go up against good power plays
> may score a few shorties but have to let a bunch of PP goals in to do that[/QUOTE

I know you are being facetious. However

• If the team takes any penalties they are, by definition, short-handed. This team is actually a little better than average at not taking penalties.
• The short-handed scorers (Atkinson, Moore, Pageau, Bozak) actually take the fewest penalties.
• The team has some excellent penalty-killers aside from being scoring threats. In fact, I think this team might lead the fantasy league in PK % and short-handed goals

And, yes, I did consider PIM, short-handed goals, GA/60 on the PK when forming the team.

 

[hockeynorth]

I went and checked and turns out my team also scores lots of shorties, carry on!

 

[emptyNedder]

I went and checked and turns out my team also scores lots of shorties, carry on!

Aho and Kane will do that for a team.

 

[Panda Bear]

> game set in 20-21 season, which has largely transpired and is already over for 27 of 31 teams
> people write things like "Atkinson should return to 30+ goals playing with two strong set-up men"
> can't return to the past

 

[Panda Bear]

I think you accept how well a player actually did in the specified season, and you reasonably modulate that amount of success according to the fantasy team and situation provided.

The idea of reasonable, however, is subject to a lot of debate.

Atkinson, for example, is prorated to 21 goals over 82 games this season. I can buy him scoring 30 if he's put with those quality linemates.

But if someone were to argue that a Pierre-Luc Dubois should be considered a 60 point centre or say that Patrik Laine would definitely get 40 goals when the game is based on this season, I would throw my computer out the window.

 

[Carl182]

I think you accept how well a player actually did in the specified season, and you reasonably modulate that amount of success according to the fantasy team and situation provided.

The idea of reasonable, however, is subject to a lot of debate.

Atkinson, for example, is prorated to 21 goals over 82 games this season. I can buy him scoring 30 if he's put with those quality linemates.

But if someone were to argue that a Pierre-Luc Dubois should be considered a 60 point centre or say that Patrik Laine would definitely get 40 goals when the game is based on this season, I would throw my computer out the window.

So I better not post my thesis about Bobrovsky being a Vezina caliber goalie then?

 

[McDrai]

I don't feel like doing a sales pitch so I'll just post it here



Alex Ovechkin - Patrice Bergeron - Jordan Eberle
Evgeni Dadonov - Jack Hughes - Alex Tuch
Conor Sheary - Adam Henrique - Joel Armia
Andreas Johnsson - Michael McLeod - Mathieu Perreault

Devon Toews - Matt Dumba
Jamie Oleksiak - Brandon Montour
Andy Greene - Sami Vatanen

Igor Shesterkin
Jonathan Bernier

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

I think you accept how well a player actually did in the specified season, and you reasonably modulate that amount of success according to the fantasy team and situation provided.

The idea of reasonable, however, is subject to a lot of debate.

Atkinson, for example, is prorated to 21 goals over 82 games this season. I can buy him scoring 30 if he's put with those quality linemates.

But if someone were to argue that a Pierre-Luc Dubois should be considered a 60 point centre or say that Patrik Laine would definitely get 40 goals when the game is based on this season, I would throw my computer out the window.

Honestly I think you can still argue Laine and pld are that capable. That's there skillset imo.

And if anything their decline this year shows you can't extrapolate forward one way or the other. These are all fish out of water scenarios.

 

[Panda Bear]

So I better not post my thesis about Bobrovsky being a Vezina caliber goalie then?

Not if you care about my laptop!

 

[Panda Bear]

Honestly I think you can still argue Laine and pld are that capable. That's there skillset imo.

And if anything their decline this year shows you can't extrapolate forward one way or the other. These are all fish out of water scenarios.

I think they're that capable too, but I don't think it's reasonable to argue they're that capable in a '20-21 game. I would have very different feelings for a '21-22 draft.

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

I think they're that capable too, but I don't think it's reasonable to argue they're that capable in a '20-21 game. I would have very different feelings for a '21-22 draft.

I guess so. I was drafting for 2022 myself if they have to have played a game to be eligible.

But as usual I don't read the rules.

 

[Panda Bear]

Bratt (2.75) - Point (6.75) - Rust (3.5) *
Vatrano (2.6) - Pavelski (7.0) - Radulov (6.25)
Kiviranta (0.9) - Gourde (5.17) * - Appleton (0.9)
Robinson (0.9) - F. Gaudreau (0.7) - Bemstrom (0.925)

Chychrun (4.6) - Weegar (3.25)
Grzelcyk (3.7) - Walker (2.65) *
Kulak (1.85) - E. Johnson (6.00)

Swayman (0.925)
Allen (4.35)​

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

Bratt (2.75) - Point (6.75) - Rust (3.5) *
Vatrano (2.6) - Pavelski (7.0) - Radulov (6.25)
Kiviranta (0.9) - Gourde (5.17) * - Appleton (0.9)
Robinson (0.9) - F. Gaudreau (0.7) - Bemstrom (0.925)
Chychrun (4.6) - Weegar (3.25)
Grzelcyk (3.7) - Walker (2.65) *
Kulak (1.85) - E. Johnson (6.00)
Swayman (0.925)
Allen (4.35)​

Your teams Is better than it usually is. Mostly because of bemstrom whom I covet.

 

[belair]

Pavel Buchnevich | Elias Lindholm | Nikita Kucherov
Gabriel Landeskog | Matt Duchene | Phil Kessel
Jeff Skinner | Tyson Jost | Kaapo Kakko
Kevin Rooney | Colton Sissons | Austin Watson

Esa Lindell | Tyson Barrie
K'Andre Miller | Cody Ceci
Nic Hague | Ian Cole

Mike Smith
Filip Gustavsson

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

It also wouldn't make much sense to have Seattle and a lower cap if it were last year.

Pretty sure you made that up @Panda Bear

 

[Panda Bear]

It's in the OP.

For some reason we only have 31 teams. I forget which one got switched with Seattle.

 

[Nucker101]

trades
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