2021 NHL Draft Thread II (R1 July 23rd (ESPN2) 8 PM EST; R2-7 July 24th (NHLN) 12PM EST)

[ClevelandJacketFan]

Johnson
Sillinger
Chinakhov
Marchenko
Ceulemans
Voronkov
Tarasov
Svozil
Angle
Knazko

My first crack at our top 10. Not too shabby.

Would I be crazy to have Voronkov over Marchenko?

 

[Hello Johnny]

Would I be crazy to have Voronkov over Marchenko?

Nope! I like Voronkov. Very translatable game.

I have Marchenko higher because of a higher ceiling and one less year on his contract in Russia. But he's far from a sure thing. Just depends on one's criteria in regards to rankings.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

 

[EDM]

Seem to be forgetting TFW. He is back on the ice and skating.

 

[Hello Johnny]

Seem to be forgetting TFW. He is back on the ice and skating.

Not forgetting, he'd probably be 11 or 12 for me.

EDIT: I did forget Foudy however. Probably have him at 4 behind Chinakhov

 

[Dux917]

Interview with Richard -

 

[majormajor]

A fighter from Nova Scotia? Jody Shelley probably likes the pick.

I think this kid is my third cousin.

Will have to check the family tree.

 

[majormajor]

Johnson
Sillinger
Chinakhov
Foudy
Marchenko
Ceulemans
Voronkov
Tarasov
Svozil
Angle


My first crack at our top 10. Not too shabby.

I might go something like

Sillinger
Johnson

Chinakhov
Ceulemans
Marchenko
Foudy
Svozil
Voronkov
Angle

Tarasov

 

[EDM]

Foudy was drafted 3 years ago. Isn't that a bit of a problem that he is still lsted as a "prospect".

 

[stevo61]

Foudy was drafted 3 years ago. Isn't that a bit of a problem that he is still lsted as a "prospect".

No? Many picks in the top 10 from that draft are still not in NHL lineups full time yet. Plus I suppose we should take Marchenko off of our lists too

 

[stevo61]

Would be nice if he can figure out his health but I still like TFW over guys like Angle

 

[Hello Johnny]

Foudy was drafted 3 years ago. Isn't that a bit of a problem that he is still lsted as a "prospect".

Uh, no?

 

[ThisIsMyAlibi]

Foudy was drafted 3 years ago. Isn't that a bit of a problem that he is still lsted as a "prospect".

Yes. Low ceiling.

 

[Hello Johnny]

Regardless of what a player's ceiling is, I'm curious as to what they would be if they aren't a prospect?

Marchenko was selected the same year as Foudy. Is he not a prospect? Joe Veleno? Jonathan Berggren? We had Elvis for 5 years before he played a game. What was he before then? I could go on.

This isn't the NFL where guys are 22, 23, 24 when they're drafted. Theyre 17-18. Very few do anything in the league before 20-21.

 

[EDM]

Well it is certainly true that Foudy has not done anything.

 

[DarkandStormy]

A touch surprised we didn't draft a goalie.

-2012 Korpisalo (and Dansk)
-2014 Elvis
-2016 Thome (think he's a UFA this August if we don't sign him)
-2017 Tarasov
-2018 Vehvilainen (traded)

This franchise has never gone three straight drafts without selecting a goalie.

 

[GoJackets1]

Foudy was drafted 3 years ago. Isn't that a bit of a problem that he is still lsted as a "prospect".

Only 7 guys drafted below Foudy have more NHL games played than him. Only 7 have more NHL points than him. So, no.

 

[Fro]

A touch surprised we didn't draft a goalie.

-2012 Korpisalo (and Dansk)
-2014 Elvis
-2016 Thome (think he's a UFA this August if we don't sign him)
-2017 Tarasov
-2018 Vehvilainen (traded)

This franchise has never gone three straight drafts without selecting a goalie.

CBJProspects and I were discussing earlier...was expecting 2 to be drafted, stunned 1 wasnt

 

[Hello Johnny]

Well it is certainly true that Foudy has not done anything.

I wasn't a huge fan of the pick at the time, thought it was a reach. But he's a legit NHL prospect with middle-six upside, likely a defensively responsible third liner who can move up a line. He'll be a useful player at some point.

Whether he was worth the 18th pick could be debated, certainly.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Only 7 guys drafted below Foudy have more NHL games played than him. Only 7 have more NHL points than him. So, no.

CBJProspects and I were discussing earlier...was expecting 2 to be drafted, stunned 1 wasnt

Our goalie prospect pool is starting to run a bit dry. We essentially have Tarasov and nothing else.

 

[majormajor]

Would be nice if he can figure out his health but I still like TFW over guys like Angle

Why?

I'm not debating it I just need to hear the reasoning. There's very little info/video on these guys out there.

I found more shift by shift vids for this year's prospects than for our AHLers.

 

[LoneFunyan]

Our goalie prospect pool is starting to run a bit dry. We essentially have Tarasov and nothing else.

Portzline tweeted that the death of Kivi has changed their thinking and it's likely they'll now keep Elvis and Korpi unless they get a good offer.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Portzline tweeted that the death of Kivi has changed their thinking and it's likely they'll now keep Elvis and Korpi unless they get a good offer.

I don’t think that solves any long term issue. You’ll inevitable lose 1 or both as a UFA next year. Outside of Tarasov we literally have nobody else in the pipeline except Cam Johnson.

 

[stevo61]

Why?

I'm not debating it I just need to hear the reasoning. There's very little info/video on these guys out there.

I found more shift by shift vids for this year's prospects than for our AHLers.

Yeah I obviously havent found much either but I still like TFWs skillset. He too has the motor that doesnt quit but I feel like atleast at a younger age he had much more skill. I also think his body type is going to support that effort level at the next level a bit more but at the same time carrying extra weight can be more taxing cardio wise so it should be interesting. I think people get hung up on height but the weight TFW carries at his height is nuts.
Both seem to be progressing well, I just hope injuries dont stall TFW and his development

 

[majormajor]

Yeah I obviously havent found much either but I still like TFWs skillset. He too has the motor that doesnt quit but I feel like atleast at a younger age he had much more skill. I also think his body type is going to support that effort level at the next level a bit more but at the same time carrying extra weight can be more taxing cardio wise so it should be interesting. I think people get hung up on height but the weight TFW carries at his height is nuts.
Both seem to be progressing well, I just hope injuries dont stall TFW and his development

I have no problem with adding a fire hydrant to the lineup.

It's just amazing how little info and video there is coming out of the AHL these days. We know everything about a million different prospects but things seem to go dark in Cleveland.