Rumor: 2021-22 Trade Rumors and FA Part V: To Giroux or not to Giroux

[Northern Avs Fan]

Reading this tweet:

 

[Gatorbait19]

I’d prefer crouse to hagel but that’s maybe because I hadn’t heard of hagel until 7 hours ago. That locked in minimal cap hit is enticing, but sounds like it’ll be cost prohibitive based on Chicago’s wants.

 

[The Merchant]

Reading this tweet:



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It would be abject failure for Sakic to allow him to go to a division rival. Get it done.

 

[nammerus]

I wouldn’t at all be surprised if EJ found the fountain of youth in the playoffs. The guy knows this is his moment and possibly last chance to get it done with this team. He’s been up and down this year, but he’s definitely had some warrior type blocks late in games that can be useful in the playoffs.

JJ should be getting 3rd pairing minutes, but the Avs seem to like him more than the fan base does. Even when Byram was healthy he was playing a decent amount.

Even though he’s a loveable goon, MacDermid worries me a lot more than those guys.

EJ is more likely to go full Graves in the PO than be a high-end contributor. He’s the original shin-pad destroyer.

 

[hughdreamz]

It would be abject failure for Sakic to allow him to go to a division rival. Get it done.

if and only if he lands Pavelski instead.

 

[PAZ]

It would be abject failure for Sakic to allow him to go to a division rival. Get it done.

Those names are just there to try and get Sakic to up his offer. Guerin has gone on record multiple times saying he isn’t going to trade a 1st this TDL.

Plus Giroux doesn’t move the needle for either of those teams. If the Avs can’t beat either team if they get Giroux, they wouldn’t beat Vegas or whoever comes out of the East either.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

That Giroux info sounds like it’s coming straight from the Flyers.

“Claude would like to go to Colorado, but we’re going to say he’d also like to go to their divisional rivals to drive up the price.”

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

That Giroux info sounds like it’s coming straight from the Flyers.

“Claude would like to go to Colorado, but we’re going to say he’d also like to go to their divisional rivals to drive up the price.”

Very true.

It's also Dater so it's not exactly trustworthy. It would make a lot of sense though especially if it's coming from the Philly side and they're using it to try and goat Joe into one last piece upgrade somewhere.

 

[the_fan]

 

[nammerus]

Those names are just there to try and get Sakic to up his offer. Guerin has gone on record multiple times saying he isn’t going to trade a 1st this TDL.

Plus Giroux doesn’t move the needle for either of those teams. If the Avs can’t beat either team if they get Giroux, they wouldn’t beat Vegas or whoever comes out of the East either.

They don’t have need to trade their first. Their prospect pool is one of the best in the league and deep enough to use a couple pieces as trade bait without any real impact.

 

[Richard88]

Reading this tweet:

 

[John Mandalorian]

I'd be very picky with getting a player who I think can put the Avs over the top for a cup. Is Appleton that player?... meh

Ha. That's like 80% of the people discussed in here.

 

[PAZ]

They don’t have need to trade their first. Their prospect pool is one of the best in the league and deep enough to use a couple pieces as trade bait without any real impact.

Most of those prospects also have NHL roles on the Wild next season, whether they’re ready or not.

 

[Alienblood]

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[JH21]

They were outcoached and outworked against Vegas and they choked. At this point I would love to see Giroux, some bigger body in 3rd line and D like Holden or whatever.

They pummeled us starting in game 3 and we folded. We are a soft team. Hopefully the boys have learnt what it takes to win in the playoffs when you can't score 7 goals a game.

 

[AvsCOL]

Honestly wouldn’t shock me if Dater completely fabricated that. Makes him look smart if he goes to Colorado, but also saves him of Giroux doesn’t.

Classic Dater.

 

[Hasbro]

With regards to Hagel, Tampa would be the team to be worried about, because they have a GM who has a track record of getting moves like this done.

Hagel's contract also lines up perfectly with Toronto's window given that Matthews/Nylander/Muzzin/Brodie all hit UFA in 2024, so I'd hazard a guess that they'll be in on him as well given their limited capspace.

Good. Let them spend their ammo on him which puts the, on equal footing Sakic for another other trades.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

I actually feel like Dater is getting this info from Carchidi who’s actually legit. Now whether Carchidi was fed this purposely from the Flyers to drive up value or not is certainly a question but I don’t think Dater pulled this out of thin air.

 

[The Merchant]

Those names are just there to try and get Sakic to up his offer. Guerin has gone on record multiple times saying he isn’t going to trade a 1st this TDL.

Plus Giroux doesn’t move the needle for either of those teams. If the Avs can’t beat either team if they get Giroux, they wouldn’t beat Vegas or whoever comes out of the East either.

Of course he moves the needle. And regardless of how much he would tilt the scales in the other direction why even take that chance? Tilt them in your favor instead. It's obviously all just posturing, but if a Giroux-caliber player wants to join you specifically for a run you don't dick around with that advantage.

 

[the_fan]

I know it's Dater saying that, but for what it's worth, Friedman also mentioned something about Avs want Giroux and Giroux wants to go to Avs

 

[AvsFan29]

Those names are just there to try and get Sakic to up his offer. Guerin has gone on record multiple times saying he isn’t going to trade a 1st this TDL.

Plus Giroux doesn’t move the needle for either of those teams. If the Avs can’t beat either team if they get Giroux, they wouldn’t beat Vegas or whoever comes out of the East either.

Minnesota could add McDavid and I'm still taking the Avs in 5

 

[Avs44]

I actually feel like Dater is getting this info from Carchidi who’s actually legit. Now whether Carchidi was fed this purposely from the Flyers to drive up value or not is certainly a question but I don’t think Dater pulled this out of thin air.

Has Dater been right (first) on anything in the past ~3 years...? I think the dude is cooked, in terms of credibility.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Has Dater been right (first) on anything in the past ~3 years...? I think the dude is cooked, in terms of credibility.

Oh he’s a clown. I don’t even think he’s allowed in the arena anymore lol. But what I’m saying is that there’s a good chance we know where he’s hearing this one.

 

[Mooserton]

What a crazy coincidence that Giroux would not want to go to another top team like the Panthers, Lightning or Hurricanes but specifically an Avs division rival. Crazy stuff HAHA

 

[Balthazar]

Has Dater been right (first) on anything in the past ~3 years...? I think the dude is cooked, in terms of credibility.

Dater is often wrong but he doesn't make shit up (as in lying on purpose). If he says "I'm told" then someone who he thinks is trustworthy told him that.