Blue Jays GDT: (2020 v5) ALWC Gm 2: (8) Tor @ (1) TB| Wed, Sept 30 | 4:00pm ET/1:00pm PT | Ryu vs Glasnow

[shaner8989]

Lol thought it started at 5

ya f*** off Ryu

this team is pretty bad lead by the worst manager we have ever had

 

[EpochLink]

Let’s get some momentum going here.

 

[howlman]

As soon as they pulled Shoe like they did this series was over

 

[Eyedea]

Lol thought it started at 5

ya f*** off Ryu

this team is pretty bad lead by the worst manager we have ever had

Yeah but if they’re pretty bad then how did they make the wildcard series? They’re just not Rays-level good (which is a top 2 team)

 

[Kurtz]

Guys...Montoya doesn't make the decision on who to start when.

 

[TopChedder]

All the evidence says that Ryu has been better with an extra day of rest. There are plenty of Montoyo decisions worthy of criticism or derision. The one he made where the supporting evidence actually validates it isn't one of them. Because sometimes you can make the right decision and it still doesn't work out.

It's also being lost that the Rays are a significant favorite for a reason. This is not the Jays as a marginal underdog to Tampa Bay and blowing it against a team they've beaten up on all year. Tampa is the #1 seed. Toronto is the #8. They had a losing record against the Rays in their limited action this season.

Maybe getting obliterated 7-1 in the 3rd inning of game 2 wasn't the plan, but losing the series to the Rays is in no way an unexpected outcome. The fact that the Rays are winning the game and probably the series probably has as much to do with them being the better team as it does with Montoyo being a questionable MLB manager

I 100 percent agree.

I think it's a bit of many things including youth (Bo with 2 errors today when he made 3 all year) and a manager not being as ready as he could be. I don't view him as a good manager.

But I fully expected to lose this series to the Ray's. Our time will eventually come.

 

[Marshy]

As soon as they pulled Shoe like they did this series was over

This is the hottest take of the day

 

[Cloned]

It hurts but right now the biggest difference is Bo vs. Adames at SS.

Bo is still young though and will learn from this.

 

[TheTotalPackage]

Barring a miracle comeback, sucks that the steps forward the team took this year is going to come to a crashing halt after two games. All that waiting for a Jays season, and just like that it’ll be over.

 

[trellaine201]

Guys...Montoya doesn't make the decision on who to start when.

exactly. He’s our manager because he’s a YES man.

 

[TopChedder]

Gotta say Biggio is looking like a non-prospect in these two games

He will be just fine.

BO looks like he is a triple A player today and we know he isn't.

 

[Legend123]

Cant hit cant pitch. Ive heard this shit every damn time we've made the playoffs. So frustrating. This teams sucks when it comes to hitting fast balls above 95 and pitching a disciplined batting team. This team is gonna need some major changes to compete for the WS.

A few fastball hitters
Good defense
Good pitching after Ryu (well asides this game)

 

[mikeyz]

Guys...Montoya doesn't make the decision on who to start when.

He’s the manager. What are you talking about? LMFAO.

 

[TopChedder]

Yeah but if they’re pretty bad then how did they make the wildcard series? They’re just not Rays-level good (which is a top 2 team)

Also people forget it's the youngest team in the league probably. They will be fine.

 

[TOGuy14]

I thought it was only Reese who jacked big ones down in Florida, but Jansen showing him how to keep it to the ballpark

 

[Cloned]

I hate that the Rays defense is always perfectly positioned for our hitters and our defense is always in the wrong positions for their hitters. I f***ing hate it.

 

[Eyedea]

He will be just fine.

BO looks like he is a triple A player today and we know he isn't.

Yeah I’m just being facetious, but 5/6 PAs ending in strikeouts is not fun

 

[Kurtz]

This is the hottest take of the day

Funny enough, Buck just said the exact same thing.

 

[mikeyz]

This is the hottest take of the day

It is not that hot of a take.

Edit: And as I was typing this, Buck and Joe are just talking about it.

 

[Epictetus]

I hate that the Rays defense is always perfectly positioned for our hitters and our defense is always in the wrong positions for their hitters. I f***ing hate it.

This is not random.

 

[Cloned]

Buck sounds absolutely pissed at Jays management right now. I could tell he was kind of pessimistic yesterday as soon as they pulled Shoemaker.

 

[Cloned]

This is not random.

Oh I know, but short of asking the coaches to scout hitters better, what else can we do?

 

[TopChedder]

Funny enough, Buck just said the exact same thing.

Buck was exactly right.

Shoe could have gone 7 innings yesterday without giving up a run.

 

[EpochLink]

Sigh, come on.

 

[Kurtz]

He’s the manager. What are you talking about? LMFAO.

If you pay any attention to how things operate here like listening to interviews with Montoya and other team members, you would learn that decisions of this sort are made by our analytics team and not by Montoya.