WJC: 2020 Team USA Roster Talk

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    .....so.....the 2019 camp roster was released, and I am going to focus on 2020 after seeing some of the names listed there lol... I am not sure what to make of that camp roster, a few puzzling choices and non choices, but I want to put a roster together for next year and compare it to right now...I think I might feel even worse looking at next years team compared to now. to be fair, I think the US roster is still strong, but leaving off Walsh, Wilde, Kaliyev, Zegras, Gildon, etc is disappointing as if that team has trouble scoring, look no further to these names not there.


    let's take a look at what this team could look like next year. right off the bat, we should expect a much more talented group offensively.

    the thought of this trio together yet again is fascinating:

    Joel Farabee - Jack Hughes - Oliver Wahlstrom
    • well aware that Mr. Hughes likely is in the NHL, but one could hope right?? lol..
    Matthew Boldy - Trevor Zegras - Arthur Kaliyev
    • IMO, all 3 should be here at camp for the 2019 team...this would be a lethal 2nd line
    Cole Caufield - Alex Turcotte - Bobby Brink
    • another absolute electric line, skill...skill....and more skill
    Jack Drury - Nicholas Robertson - John Farinacci
    • strong, skilled and balanced 4th line...this is way too skilled of a 4th line
    John Beecher - Ryder Rolston - Robert Mastrosimone
    • lol, this is the 5th line for this team......
    Ryder Donovan - Jake Wise - Judd Caulfield
    • still going, line 6th still is strong with talent....
    Blade Jenkins - Antonio Stranges - Blake McLaughlin
    • just now starting to get to 02's....my lord this group is massively deep
    Shane Pinto - Josh Nodler - Luke Toporowski
    • another strong group mixed with size, skill and grit
    Jonathan Gruden - Jake Pivonka - Grant Silianoff
    • things are finally starting to slow down a bit, but this trio is still solid
    Avery Hayes - Curtis Hall - Sean Farrell/Ryan O'Reilly/Trevor Janicke
    • I will just stop here, still talented players, likely missing some names, but damn this is deep...I barely even scratched the 02's including the USNDP 02'....

    for the defense it obviously isn't as deep as the forwards, but is going to be able to hold it's own here as well.

    K'Andre Miller - Bode Wilde

    Mattias Samuelsson - Cam York

    Alec Regula - Slava Demin

    Ty Emberson - Marshall Warren

    Alex Vlasic - Henry Thrun

    Ben Brinkman - Ryan Johnson

    Mike Koster - Cade Webber

    Drew Helleson - Spencer Stastney

    this is just one massively deep group.....I am sure I have forgotten some names, but this group has to be one of the most talented and deep groups we have ever had at our disposal...
     
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    @AmericanDream, let the team win 2019, and then worry about 2020.
     
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    when I think the team will lose, they usually win....
     
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    lol, that team is going to be absurd it's almost funny. Even losing Hughes, that would be one of the most skilled forward groups top to bottom the US has ever had. Will also have Knight returning after getting experience this year
     
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    Is Hughes more likely to play 2020 or 2021?
     
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    I always like doing these, so here goes nothing with a ridiculously early projected 2019 WJSS camp roster:

    Forwards (x24)

    John Beecher
    Matthew Boldy
    Bobby Brink
    Cole Caufield
    Judd Caulfied
    Jack Drury
    Joel Farabee
    John Farinacci
    Sean Farrell
    Parker Ford
    Michael Gildon
    Johnny Gruden
    Curtis Hall
    Trevor Janicke
    Blade Jenkins
    Arthur Kaliyev
    Robert Mastrosimone
    Blake McLaughlin
    Nicholas Robertson
    Ryder Rolston
    Luke Toporowski
    Alex Turcotte
    Oliver Wahlstrom
    Trevor Zegras

    Defense (x14)

    Ben Brinkman
    Slava Demin
    Ty Emberson
    Jordan Harris
    Ryan Johnson
    Case McCarthy
    K'Andre Miller
    Alec Regula
    Mattias Samuelsson
    Henry Thrun
    Alex Vlasic
    Marshall Warren
    Bode Wilde
    Cam York

    Goalies (x4)

    Drew Commesso
    Spencer Knight
    Isaiah Saville
    Dustin Wolf

    Notes:
    • I didn't include Jack Hughes as he'll likely be in the NHL. Regardless, there's no point having him at the summer camp. Let him prepare for the NHL and if for some reason he's available December 2019, he'll have no problem jumping right into the team and destroying the tournament.
    • This should be a incredibly strong pool to choose from, both in terms of high-end talent and depth as well. Much better than this year, which isn't surprising given the talent and depth in the '01 birth group that will be aged into tournament availability (not officially, just in terms of likelihood of selection as non-underagers).
    • The '00 forwards need to step up because other than the guys already in play this year (Farabee, Wahlstrom, Drury) they've largely not done anything to improve their standing this season. And if we're honest, most have have looked downright pedestrian to be generous.
      • I can't fathom including guys like Jake Wise, Tyler Weiss, or Jake Pivonka until they show a reason why they should be included.
      • Guys like Ryder Donovan and Brady Meyer are all hype right now.
      • I've liked Trevor Janicke and Parker Ford at the WJAC, but it's not a high-end tournament and they're bottom 6 contenders at best. However, USAH loves guys that can skate with some offensive skill on the 4th line, so they fit too.
    • Luckily for the offense, the '01 forwards are so incredibly deep that it feels like the '97 group all over again.
    • The defense should be deep and talented. I've been pretty impressed with Ryan Johnson at the WJAC.
    • In goal, you'll have Knight (again) and Wolf, who will both be eligible for the 2021 WJC as well, so I honestly don't really care who they pick in the other goalie spots for camp. If anything, I just hope some '02 goalies emerge in the next year to get involved for experience's sake.
     
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    Really hope Wilde gets a shot next year.

    Blade Jenkins also having a strong season for Saginaw. If he makes it next year he could add some nice grit mixed with skill to the squad.

    Next years team is going to be insane though. A lot of really good players won’t make it.
     
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    I think Pivonka is more likely than Jenkins
     
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    Farabee-Zegras-Wahlstrom
    Boldy-Turcotte-Kaliyev
    Caufield-Drury-Brink
    Jenkins-Beecher-Donovan
    McLaughlin

    Miller-Emberson
    Samuelsson-Wilde
    York-Regula
    Brinkman

    Knight
    Wolf
    Saville
     
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    Next year. Gonna say no Hughes, but we get everyone else.

    Farabee-Turcotte-Caufield
    Boldy-Zegras-Wahlstrom
    Kaliyev-Drury-Wise
    Beecher-Pivonka-Janicke
    Brink

    Samuelsson-Wilde
    Miller-Emberson
    York-Regula
    Thrun

    Knight
    Rowe
    Wolf
     
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    Too, too early, but why not?

    Forwards (x13):

    Joel Farabee - Trevor Zegras - Oliver Wahlstrom
    Matthew Boldy - Alex Turcotte - Cole Caufield
    Arthur Kaliyev - Jack Drury - Bobby Brink
    Luke Toporowski - Parker Ford - Trevor Janicke
    Nic Robertson

    Defense (x7):

    Mattias Samuelsson - Bode Wilde
    K'Andre Miller - Ty Emberson
    Cam York - Henry Thrun
    Alec Regula

    Goalies (x3):

    Spencer Knight
    Dustin Wolf
    Isaiah Saville
    Notes:
    • Even without Hughes, this team is much more skilled than our last two squads. Two highly skilled centers and three elite goal scorers.
    • I don't expect there to actually be eight '01 forwards, but right now that's a conservative projection based on talent. The '01s are an incredibly deep birth year up front and the '00 forwards are highly underwhelming beyond Farabee and Wahlstrom. Drury is far from a lock even as a returnee. I'm sure they'll ram through some players from this list (Gruden, Pivonka, McLaughlin, Wise, Hall, etc.) but none of those players is even close to this level at this point. If we're going to take some '00 fforwards take ones that can skate and play various roles, so guys like Ford and Janicke, and even those guys are projections right now as they're in the USHL.
    • Defense should be a deep group again. Hopefully the staff doesn't botch it again. Two things I'm interested to see: which '01s separate themselves and which RHD establish themselves, especially the latter as Wilde clearly isn't in USAH's good graces right now and Regula isn't a sure thing. The defensive options are extremely left shot heavy once again. Ryan Johnson is my surprise pick right now to make it as he was fantastic at the WJAC.
    • The goalies should be the easiest choice ever. Take Knight and Wolf and then who cares.
     
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    Anyone know if the Summer Showcase is back in Plymouth, Michigan this summer?
     
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    Without reading too much into 1 tournament, I don’t think Jack is a lock to be in the nhl next season.
     
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    I wouldn't even be too shocked if Farabee and Wahlstrom weren't available next year. Both played pretty well in this tournament for 18 year olds. I don't think either will be ready for the NHL next year but with the state of their college programs right now, they might be eager to bolt.
     
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    They can bolt and not play in the NHL. I don't think their NHL teams are putting them in the NHL unless they are ready.

    I don't see either being good enough to play in the NHL next season.
     
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    I agree, I was thinking AHL which would put their availability in question.
     
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    I think there’s a new rule mandating that AHL teams release them.
     
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    No Gophers again. FML
     
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    I agree with him that after Knight the rest is just window dressing but that caught me off guard too.
     
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    I think Brink will be good enough to make it, but despite being an '01 he's still a junior in high school this year. He could accelerate and play for Denver next year, but if he doesn't and doesn't go to the WHL, he'd be in the USHL again most likely. When is the last time someone made the WJC team from the USHL? Not including NTDP guys of course.
     
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    So the 2020 WJC team should be mainly players from this years U-18 squad?

    I'm excited for that
     
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    I agree. Not because of his play but more because of his frame. He should be given more time to develop physically. Probably depends on how desperate the NHL team that drafts him is.
     

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