2020 Standings and Draft pick watch thread

[Laphroaig]

I expected the Sens and the Kings to be fighting it out for last place all season but I never anticipated the monumental ineptitude of the Red Wings. They are not only the worst team in the cap era they are among the worst teams of all time. Damned impressive tanking by Yzerman but he's in for one hell of a long rebuild.

 

[HSF]

I expected the Sens and the Kings to be fighting it out for last place all season but I never anticipated the monumental ineptitude of the Red Wings. They are not only the worst team in the cap era they are among the worst teams of all time. Damned impressive tanking by Yzerman but he's in for one hell of a long rebuild.

laf can change a franchise much more than the others guys in this draft imo

lets see where the balls drop

 

[DJB]

Are the Sabres still relevant ? 10 point lead on SJ.

Less so yes. I include anyone that's captured in that standings photo.

 

[DrEasy]

Kings won! Now only two points behind Sens.

 

[Xspyrit]

It doesn’t really matter where they finish. If they don’t make the playoffs we have no chance of moving up (only back) with their top 3 protected pick. I guess ideally they don’t make them or they keep a low point total but get eliminated in RD1.

Ideally they lose almost every game left and their pick finishes as high as possible

We have been the poorest team in the NHL for a while and as a result many stars have been sold, But we can at least afford to be greedy a little

We can cheer for Pageau and Karlsson every other year as they are signed long term. Earlier this season, I have read several posts of people wanting to see Karlsson win the Cup this year... Why? Why would we want that? No, exactly what we needed happened.

I expected the Sens and the Kings to be fighting it out for last place all season but I never anticipated the monumental ineptitude of the Red Wings. They are not only the worst team in the cap era they are among the worst teams of all time. Damned impressive tanking by Yzerman but he's in for one hell of a long rebuild.

Things change very quickly in the NHL nowadays. They have good pieces already (Mantha, Zadina, Larkin, Bertuzzi, Veleno, Seider, Fabbri, Hronek, Rasmussen, McIsaac, Berggren, Smith...) and a guy named Ryan O’Reilly

That being said, Yzerman needs to turn it around fast because Mantha and Bertuzzi are already 25 (Larkin 24 soon) so you don’t want to start competing when they’re 29

 

[DrakeAndJosh]

I expected the Sens and the Kings to be fighting it out for last place all season but I never anticipated the monumental ineptitude of the Red Wings. They are not only the worst team in the cap era they are among the worst teams of all time. Damned impressive tanking by Yzerman but he's in for one hell of a long rebuild.

The crazy thing is that they’re not even well set up. They didn’t have some massive fire sale, they just had no pieces. No extra firsts, only a few extra seconds in the next two years. They’ve got a long rebuild ahead, money aside, we’re in a much better position.

 

[DJB]

 

[DJB]

Huge night for tank games tonight

Sens vs Canucks
Sharks vs Devils
Islanders vs Blues
Habs vs Rangers
Hawks vs Bolts
Minny vs Wings

 

[GCK]

Kings won! Now only two points behind Sens.

And only 4 behind the Sharks.

 

[Sun God Nika]

Ill be grateful for a sens and sharks loss, anything else is gravy.

 

[tstracuzza]

Ill be grateful for a sens and sharks loss, anything else is gravy.

Exactly. As long as we get those two results we cannot be in a worse position.

New Jersey winning would be massive...

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Assuming things remain the same, and that our lotto picks both drop 2 spots, we'll be drafting...

5th
6th
22nd
34th
52nd
53rd
56th
65th
74th
96th

EXPANDED BLUE BULLET DRAFT PICK VALUE CHART

This is a good resource on cost of trading up (much better than the more regularly cited one from 2011, which relies entirely on games played)… although, there are some imperfections, such as the 33rd pick being deemed more valuable than the 34th + 73rd, whereas the 34th pick is less valuable than the 35th + 217.

I think it will be tough to get into the top 10 with the Isles pick (unless they miss the playoffs), but we should be able to get into the top 15. If there's someone at 15 who we see as a top 10 guy - which I wouldn't be shocked by - we should have a decent chance of grabbing them by moving up.

 

[OD99]

Exactly. As long as we get those two results we cannot be in a worse position.

New Jersey winning would be massive...

NJD moving 6 clear of the Sharks with a game in hand would indeed be massive. If we can have the Ducks put a few together with a few SJS losses we are starting to look really good.

Lots of teams even in the screenshot now are essentially out of reach...would say the Blackhawks and up are pretty safe to remain ahead of us and the Sharks.

 

[TheDebater]

(Assuming the Oilers would do it)

Would you trade all of our 1st and 2nd round picks in this draft for Draisaitl?

 

[armani]

(Assuming the Oilers would do it)

Would you trade all of our 1st and 2nd round picks in this draft for Draisaitl?

 

[Imnotagoodposter]

And with the first two picks in the 2020 nhl entry draft, the Ottawa Senators are proud to select

 

[BondraTime]

Assuming things remain the same, and that our lotto picks both drop 2 spots, we'll be drafting...

5th
6th
22nd
34th
52nd
53rd
56th
65th
74th
96th

EXPANDED BLUE BULLET DRAFT PICK VALUE CHART

This is a good resource on cost of trading up (much better than the more regularly cited one from 2011, which relies entirely on games played)… although, there are some imperfections, such as the 33rd pick being deemed more valuable than the 34th + 73rd, whereas the 34th pick is less valuable than the 35th + 217.

I think it will be tough to get into the top 10 with the Isles pick (unless they miss the playoffs), but we should be able to get into the top 15. If there's someone at 15 who we see as a top 10 guy - which I wouldn't be shocked by - we should have a decent chance of grabbing them by moving up.

Columbus 2nd would be 46th

 

[Micklebot]

(Assuming the Oilers would do it)

Would you trade all of our 1st and 2nd round picks in this draft for Draisaitl?

Good lord no... Not even close.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Columbus 2nd would be 46th

I was going off of cap friendly. Maybe they aren’t up to date. my bad!

 

[TheDebater]

Good lord no... Not even close.

Fascinating.

I agree however, I think this team is further away from one Draisaitl to start being a contender, and we hope that this draft can provide us with a "quantity" boost of good quality players that will give us way more depth than one star player would.

 

[Answer]

(Assuming the Oilers would do it)

Would you trade all of our 1st and 2nd round picks in this draft for Draisaitl?

Draisaitl is not worth 3 first round pics, especially when 2 of them are top 5. He isn't McDavid. How ever, I will trade Tkachuk 1 on 1 for Draisaitl.

It will be a BIG FAT NO

 

[TheDebater]

Draisaitl is not worth 3 first round pics, especially when 2 of them are top 5. He isn't McDavid. How ever, I will trade Tkachuk 1 on 1 for Draisaitl.

It will be a BIG FAT NO

Draisaitl is probably a top 3 player in the league at the moment. He is very good.

 

[BondraTime]

Draisatl is probably one of the top 3/5 valuable players in the league, especially taking into account his contract. The top scorer in the league, 50 goal guy, 6’2 210 pounds and he costs 8.5 million for the next 5 years.

If anyone is worth that kind of return, it would be someone like Draisatl.

Sens shouldn’t though.

 

[Micklebot]

Draisaitl is probably a top 3 player in the league at the moment. He is very good.

Unless i misunderstood your proposal, that was 7 picks two of which were likely top 6 picks. Draisaitl is very good but that' bonkers imo, particularly when there a decent chance on of those picks winds up being Byfield or Lafreniere.

That's getting close to what Lindros returned, maybe more depending on the lottery.

 

[Answer]

Draisatl is probably one of the top 3/5 valuable players in the league, especially taking into account his contract. The top scorer in the league, 50 goal guy, 6’2 210 pounds and he costs 8.5 million for the next 5 years.

If anyone is worth that kind of return, it would be someone like Draisatl.

Sens shouldn’t though.

Probably is a top 2/3 in the league currently when looking at the stats. Still in my eye, only McDavid and Mackinnon are the players I'd give up all my first round picks.