2020 NHL Entry Draft 2 - 17th Overall

[Toews2Bickell]

@TheDachKnight could Lundell handle NHL minutes next season if say the Hawks move Strome in a deal this offseason and bring in Lundell similar to the way they brought in Dach with light minutes that progresses over the course of the season into regular 3rd line minutes?

 

[TheDachKnight]

@TheDachKnight could Lundell handle NHL minutes next season if say the Hawks move Strome in a deal this offseason and bring in Lundell similar to the way they brought in Dach with light minutes that progresses over the course of the season into regular 3rd line minutes?

I don’t think that’s out of the question. He played in a men’s league and was over a half a point per game while being very solid defensively. I’d say if he plays well in camp, it’s likely whatever team drafts him gives him a 9-game look. Having said that, he’s a longshot to be there at 17. I think Winnipeg is the biggest team where if he makes it past them, he might have a chance of falling. Florida, too.

 

[migi]

Lundell has looked a bit faster in these training camp games in Finland.

 

[TheDachKnight]

Lundell has looked a bit faster in these training camp games in Finland.

If that’s true, and his skating has indeed improved, I don’t see him making it past Winnipeg.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

I think if there's a guy who could drop it's Quinn. Idk why. Just a hunch.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

I think if there's a guy who could drop it's Quinn. Idk why. Just a hunch.

You'd love to see it

 

[HawksDub89]

I think if there's a guy who could drop it's Quinn. Idk why. Just a hunch.

That would be amazing.

I’ll be shocked.

 

[bwana63]

I think if there's a guy who could drop it's Quinn. Idk why. Just a hunch.

No chance he'll drop to 17, IMO.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

No chance he'll drop to 17, IMO.

You might be right, but out of the guys who could fall I think Quinn and Lundell are the ones to keep an eye on.

 

[bwana63]

You might be right, but out of the guys who could fall I think Quinn and Lundell are the ones to keep an eye on.

Just to be clear, any of these kids could fall. But Quinn falling to 17? Sign me up for that pipe dream!

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Just to be clear, any of these kids could fall. But Quinn falling to 17? Sign me up for that pipe dream!

Teravainen was ranked around 7th and he fell to 18 in 2012. You never know what could happen. That would be the equivalent of Holtz falling to the Hawks.

 

[TheDachKnight]

Holtz I could see falling a bit later than projected. Perfetti is another one who I think could fall if he makes it past Detroit and Buffalo. I don’t think either falls to 17, though. I think best case scenario, one of Quinn/Mercer/Jarvis falls. I think all 3 have very high ceilings with Mercer having the best two-way game, Quinn having the best shot, and Jarvis having arguably the highest ceiling/lowest floor of the 3. Although one could argue that Quinn’s ceiling is higher than Jarvis’.

 

[Kevin Musto]

Teravainen was ranked around 7th and he fell to 18 in 2012. You never know what could happen. That would be the equivalent of Holtz falling to the Hawks.

Wasn't that over work ethic concerns or bad interviews?

Not gonna have that happen with Quinn.

 

[TheDachKnight]

Wasn't that over work ethic concerns or bad interviews?

Not gonna have that happen with Quinn.

Didn’t he just start working out like a year or two ago? Some commitment issues there

 

[Kevin Musto]

Didn’t he just start working out like a year or two ago? Some commitment issues there

That makes him more intriguing. He had a massive boost in production after he started working out and taking training seriously. If he can make leaps like that in a short amount of time, imagine what he can look like in a few more years.

 

[TheDachKnight]

That makes him more intriguing. He had a massive boost in production after he started working out and taking training seriously. If he can make leaps like that in a short amount of time, imagine what he can look like in a few more years.

I know, I was making up a reason for him to fall.

 

[Kevin Musto]

I know, I was making up a reason for him to fall.

Jack Quinn only scored a measly 52 goals. He must not be disciplined, and playing on the 2nd line instead of 1st? Bet he's a coaches worst nightmare...

 

[TheDachKnight]

Jack Quinn only scored a measly 52 goals. He must not be disciplined, and playing on the 2nd line instead of 1st? Bet he's a coaches worst nightmare...

He didn’t even play with Marco Rossi. He must be a problem in the locker room if he wasn’t playing with their best player.

 

[ColbyChaos]

Didn’t he just start working out like a year or two ago? Some commitment issues there

Timmonen did tell him to start lifting and to practice harder after the 15 cup


Edit: nvm

 

[hawksfan50]

Draft Dynssty has just put Tristen Robbins at#17...


This is much higher than the "consensus" rankings which place him late 2nd to early 3rd round...and even higher than Draft Dynasty had himas one if their "hidden gems" in their video analysis of his game where the comments were just glowing as to all the things he does well and that he compares to cobsensuscfirst roundsr Mavrik Bourque in skill level but is a better work ethic and more physical player too...so they asked if you could get a better version of Bourqie in thec49s ratger than take Bourque in the lateteens or early 20s....then I guess on reflection Mr.St.Pierre who does the Draft Dynasty draft prospect analysis on youtube,must have just decided to go with his conviction on where Robins shoukd be ranked (a few spots ahead of Bourque) to back up his own glowing report on this kid.
Whike Robbins posted a 1.17 ppg this season ,he did come on at 1.55 ppg on the 2nd half of tgecseadon that was played and most kids who did that are considered 1stvrounders..somplacing Robinsxat #17 actually be a better reflection on his talent than the"cobsensus" rankings.

It shoukd be noted that yes Robins is another "older" player at 18 with a November 2001 birthdate ...but interestingly if you compare him to Pius Suter whose final OHL year was played as an 18 year old back in2014/15...Suter put up 1.18 ppg...(Suter with a May birtdate would have played the 2014/15 season starting 6 months older than Robins was starting his 2019/20 season with Saskatoon...

I do not know if Suter at age 24 now is heavier than the 180 lbs EliteProspectsvlists hom at ..b.butvtgey showRobinsxat 183lbs..both at 5'11..


Neither is a "big" player ...but they are not really smurfs either...

In any case I was hoping we could steal Robins with ourc#46 pick...but if other teans now also think Robins is 1st round worthy and upon analysis checks both the skiks,scoring ,passing and tge work ethic plays bigger than size box,then maybe we shoukdcgrab homat#17!

We did after all do well taking tfat other guy from the Saskatoon Blades last draft...it's a sign!

 

[Drumman44]

Timmonen did tell him to start lifting and to practice harder after the 15 cup

Didn't he get him to stop smoking?

 

[Toews2Bickell]

I like Perrault but his defensive game sucks. Other than that, really like the prospect. Bordeleau is intriguing because he absolutely has that level of talent to be considered at 17. He’s kind of a wild card for me as he could go as early as mid-teens or as late as mid-2nd.

Amirov would likely be 4th on my list. Of the guys you listed, Mercer, Khusnutdinov, Amirov, Bordealeau, Perrault, Gunler, Holloway is how I’d rank them. Holloway is worth a late 1st/early 2nd but I wouldn’t take him at 17. I haven’t watched Gunler much yet but from what I’ve read, I like him more than Holloway.

Is Perrault a player they could put at wing going forward given his offensive ability but defensive deficiencies?

 

[Kevin Musto]

Is Perrault a player they could put at wing going forward given his offensive ability but defensive deficiencies?

Yeah he has played both center and wing.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

I like Dawson Mercer, but prefer Gunler, knowing he's pretty risky.
I don't think the Hawks will take Gunler though.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

I like Dawson Mercer, but prefer Gunler, knowing he's pretty risky.
I don't think the Hawks will take Gunler though.

Who are your top 3-5 players that make for a typical Mark Kelley pick? Are there any Boqvist type guys in the 17-30 range that are maybe lower on some boards but would be as high as 17 if they slid a year to 2021 draft?