Lol alright then, ill definitely be listening to this
99% keeping it according to Lebrun; It would have to be a clear win for the Sens to do it.I hope we keep the 5th for the reason that I'm more confident we'll take Raymond or Sanderson, either of whom I'd be excited to get.
Read my posts after thisI can think of at least 3 players that would be way worse case scenario than Rossi. If Raymond is gone at #4, I would be thrilled to grab Rossi at #5. I have made up my mind that I want two forwards, so best of luck to whoever drafts Sanderson and Drysdale.
im so confused, are we getting Stutzle or Byfield?
So if our #5 is a Jared Cowen, but our 5th round pick is Mark Stone. Is that something you take?This is the type of draft where sens bust on a first round pick but hit a grand slam in the 5th round lmao
So if our #5 is a Jared Cowen, but our 5th round pick is Mark Stone. Is that something you take?
7 out of the 9 defensemen Tampa had listed on their roster were above 6'2. 6 were over 210 lbs. None were under 6'0.
Tampa had tons of skill, yes. But they were also a big team on the back-end. And at forward, they went out after the sweep last year and added a ton of sandpaper with Blake Coleman, Barclay Goodrow and Pat Maroon.
Hell ya can only hope for so much in a draftSo if our #5 is a Jared Cowen, but our 5th round pick is Mark Stone. Is that something you take?
Well statistically speaking it seems like the vast majority of elite/superstar players are in the 5'10/5'11 to the 6'2 range. I am not sure if you checked the heights at the time of being drafted but prospects that were 5'10 or 5'11 could have easily grown to 6' plus.Certainly, but at the same time, since 2010, with a total of 64 picks, only 6 have been less than 6ft.
91% of our picks since 2010 have been 6ft or bigger, that's not a coincidence.
That’s heights at the time of being drafted. McCormick, Dunn, Prince, Pageau, Crookshank, Dahlen. Dunn is listed at 6ft now.Well statistically speaking it seems like the vast majority of elite/superstar players are in the 5'10/5'11 to the 6'2 range. I am not sure if you checked the heights at the time of being drafted but prospects that were 5'10 or 5'11 could have easily grown to 6' plus.
Personally I agree with the Sens in targeting bigger players. I also like that they also value compete higher than size. There was a period of time after 2007 where they drafted, traded for and signed plenty of players with size that were soft. Maybe they thought they could teach them to compete harder and develop a mean streak but it never worked out. I detest big players that are soft and am very skeptical that a prospect that plays soft can ever develop that compete level and aggressiveness. I am also a fan of smaller players that are hyper competitive and aggressive.
But looking through past drafts it doesn't look like we missed out on many players by not drafting players under 6 feet.
2010: none
2011: Vincent Trocheck, Johnny Gaudreau
2012: Alex Kerfoot
2013: none
2014: Brayden Point, Viktor Arvidsson
2015: Travis Konecny
2016: none
2017, 2018, 2019: none as of this point
Even of those players listed we don't know what the Sens thought of them, where they had them ranked and whether they were unwilling to draft them simply because their size. In the vast majority of cases where the Sens missed out on a prospect who ended up being a better NHL player they 6' and in many cases well above 6'. Arguably they have suffered nearly no negative consequences as a result of any potential bias they have towards taller players. Whatever prospects they missed out on drafting were due to other factors than size.
Edwards: Stutzle is closer to Lafreniere at #1 than Byfield is to Stutzle at #2
Worth a listen. I bought and read their Draft Black Book and even though some of the rankings might seem controversial (Sanderson 5, Quinn 6, Jarvis 7, Raymond 8, Schneider 11, Drysdale 12) I still think it's a very good write up of the draft and detailed explanations.
My draft scenarios, depending on who LA/DET pick:
Byfield + Raymond/Quinn
or
Stutzle + Sanderson/Rossi
All daySo if our #5 is a Jared Cowen, but our 5th round pick is Mark Stone. Is that something you take?