GDT: 2020 HHOF Inductions June 24 - Alfredsson's 4th attempt. Start post #206

[Senscore]

So they let in all the forwards but Alfie?


Oh right, Toronto.

 

[TB1299]

What a piece of crap.

A dsigrace. The Hall of Shame.

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

He's unfortunately never going to get in, the Toronto media has always refused to acknowledge him.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Whatever, didn't expect it.

 

[GWNR]

He's unfortunately never going to get in, the Toronto media has always refused to acknowledge him.

Never?

It may take a few years, but he's going to get in. He has a very solid resume.

 

[Senscore]

Explain to me how Kariya deserves it over Alfredsson.

 

[Neil Patrick Harris]

Doesn't make it in his first year of eligibility = Never going to make it in boo Toronto boo

Let's calm down people. He's gonna get in eventually.

Explain to me how Kariya deserves it over Alfredsson.

His career being so marred by injuries does him no favours for sure, I suspect there were quite a few on the committee who liked the idea of sending both Selanne and Kariya to the hall at the same time.

If anything, I'd say that Kariya and Andreychuk making it in only helps establish that a player at Alfie's level should be a shoe-in when his time does come.

 

[starling]

Alfredsson will definitely get there but not on his first year of eligibility. Kariya had to wait 4 years for example.

 

[Neil Patrick Harris]

Alfredsson will definitely get there but not on his first year of eligibility. Kariya had to wait 4 years for example.

As did Recchi.

Hell, Andreychuk was on his ninth year.

 

[DrunkUncleDenis]

Explain to me how Kariya deserves it over Alfredsson.

So him and Selanne could canoodle while being inducted.

 

[BonkTastic]

Kariya over Alfredsson is a little odd

I have Kariya ahead of Alfie too.

At his peak, he was the best player in the league not named Lindros. He was robbed of his prime due to concussions - was never the same player after he left the Ducks, and has battled chronic symptoms very since.

Kariya was flat out one of the best players of the 90's. He absolutely deserves to be in, and I love Alfie as much as the next Sens fan, but Kariya was the better player when he was healthy.

Explain to me how Kariya deserves it over Alfredsson.

If you saw Kariya in his prime, you wouldn't need to ask this question.

I understand that a lot of people here (not all, but some) are young enough that maybe they only really remember the tail end of Kariya's career. You had to see him on those old Ducks team, before Scott Stevens made an omelette out of his brains, to appreciate how unbelievably good he was.

 

[Senscore]

So him and Selanne could canoodle while being inducted.

Once again Anaheim's ******** screws us over.

 

[Neil Patrick Harris]

Once again Anaheim's ******** screws us over.

Ducks fly together

 

[saskriders]

I think Anderychuk is much less deserving than Kariya.

 

[ATdaisuki]

great year for the sens!
-don't get first in the division
-short a goal of the cup finals
-karlsson doesn't get the norris
-possible injuries to start next season (karlsson, brassard)
-methot gone in the expansion draft
-alfie doesn't get into the hhof

 

[Fandlauer]

great year for the sens!
-don't get first in the division
-short a goal of the cup finals
-karlsson doesn't get the norris
-possible injuries to start next season (karlsson, brassard)
-methot gone in the expansion draft
-alfie doesn't get into the hhof

It doesn't get more Ottawa Senators than that!

 

[BonkTastic]

I think Anderychuk is much less deserving than Kariya.

Andreychuk has the longevity and the numbers. Just played forever at a good (but never really elite) pace. He's the "Mike Gardner" candidate.

Kariya was far and away the better player, and it's not particularly close as far as I'm concerned.

 

[saskriders]

Andreychuk has the longevity and the numbers. Just played forever at a good (but never really elite) pace. He's the "Mike Gardner" candidate.

Kariya was far and away the better player, and it's not particularly close as far as I'm concerned.

That is pretty much why I think Andreychuk is less deserving than Kariya (and Alfredsson). I have no problem with longevity guys getting in, but it shouldn't be at the expense of better players.

 

[OD99]

I watched bith and certainly wouldn't say that Kariya was much better if at all than Alfie.

Different players as well but Alfie more complete in my book.

 

[starling]

Again, Kariya wasn't selected AHEAD of Alfredsson. If Alfredsson gets passed on for 3 more yeas then one could say that.

 

[Inkling]

I think Kariya and Andreychuk getting in is good news for Alfie's eventual induction.

 

[Laphroaig]

He's unfortunately never going to get in, the Toronto media has always refused to acknowledge him.

The media doesn't vote on this. The voters are primarily former players.

 

[Laphroaig]

The media don't vote on this. The Hall of Fame voters are primarily former players.

 

[pepty]

Hockey Hall of fame selection committee:

https://www.hhof.com/htmlinduct/indselect.shtml

 

[JD1]

I have Kariya ahead of Alfie too.

At his peak, he was the best player in the league not named Lindros. He was robbed of his prime due to concussions - was never the same player after he left the Ducks, and has battled chronic symptoms very since.

Kariya was flat out one of the best players of the 90's. He absolutely deserves to be in, and I love Alfie as much as the next Sens fan, but Kariya was the better player when he was healthy.



If you saw Kariya in his prime, you wouldn't need to ask this question.

I understand that a lot of people here (not all, but some) are young enough that maybe they only really remember the tail end of Kariya's career. You had to see him on those old Ducks team, before Scott Stevens made an omelette out of his brains, to appreciate how unbelievably good he was.

I agree with all of this