Prospect Info: 2020-2021 Senators Prospect Watch

[The Devilish Buffoon]

It happens every year. Last year it was Aspirot, Murray, Doughtery and Labrie getting more minutes than Lajoie, Jaros and even Brannstrom at times.

Side note, is there any public data on AHL stats? Such an annoying omission...

 

[Bileur]

I’d expect Thomson to start on the third pair in Belleville and work his way up.

The difference will be having a coach committed to his long term development and whose job depends on developing the young guys to the NHL club’s satisfaction rather than a coach looking to win now with Ilves while knowing any time invested in him is wasted since he’s leaving the moment the AHL starts up.

I’m expecting at least 2 years in the AHL for him. They’re going to give him every opportunity. We’ll see how much he wants it.

 

[BondraTime]

Side note, is there any public data on AHL stats? Such an annoying omission...

Outside of watching the games I don’t believe so. I know it’s tracked, but don’t believe it’s made public, I remember it being brought up at the rink when the Ice Caps were playing out of St. John’s. The teams have the info, as does the AHL.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Thomson was -2 in 8:53 toi yesterday

Ilves vs Jukurit today

 

[Burrowsaurus]

November 31-in-31: Ottawa Senators

another not so kind review of our draft.

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

November 31-in-31: Ottawa Senators

another not so kind review of our draft.

Calling Sanderson a safe pick is just blatantly incorrect. I’m not reading the rest

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Calling Sanderson a safe pick is just blatantly incorrect. I’m not reading the rest

Well I mean. Technically he was safe? Safe doesn’t need to mean bad.
Lafraniere was a safe pick.

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

Well I mean. Technically he was safe? Safe doesn’t need to mean bad.
Lafraniere was a safe pick.

Ok I kept reading. The draft summary take is just awful. Like yikes. He says it seems like they didn’t take guys like Rossi because they didn’t want to pay him in a few years. What a ridiculous thing to say. And then goes on to say they passed on the best player available every single time. This is not a good read

Safe would have been taking Drysdale who was the top ranked D all year or Rossi who was the top scorer with a safe floor due to his two way game

 

[mianjo]

Thomson was -2 in 8:53 toi yesterday

Ilves vs Jukurit today

Ilves 2 Jukerit 0 after 1, Abramov still injured for Jukerit? Thompson and Jarvente playing for Ilves

 

[Ouroboros]

Not a lot of diversity of opinion among these, uh, 'online draft experts' is there?

Why do we need to hear about 7 or 8 of them when they all have the same thing to say, which is essentially that they are extremely mad online about how the Senators didn't use every pick on their favourite 5'8 Euro dangler.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Ok I kept reading. The draft summary take is just awful. Like yikes. He says it seems like they didn’t take guys like Rossi because they didn’t want to pay him in a few years. What a ridiculous thing to say. And then goes on to say they passed on the best player available every single time. This is not a good read

Safe would have been taking Drysdale who was the top ranked D all year or Rossi who was the top scorer with a safe floor due to his two way game

Sanderson is a much safer player than drysdale lol.
Rossi is 5’7 in nhl eyes that is not safe.

of we would have picked rossi. You would be mad at anyone who didn’t like the pick lol.

 

[mianjo]

I assume Merillainan is playing for Karpat U20 who won 4-2
Balcers playing for Stavanger 1-1 in 2nd Balcers scores.
Brannstrom playing later

Also tonight Canada U20 playing Sweden U20 exhibition

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

Sanderson is a much safer player than drysdale lol.
Rossi is 5’7 in nhl eyes that is not safe.

of we would have picked rossi. You would be mad at anyone who didn’t like the pick lol.

No, I would have been mad if the sens took Rossi. He was never a top 5 pick in my eyes. But he would have been the safer choice over many players selected before him. When these so called analysts use the word safe, they are talking about floor.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

No, I would have been mad if the sens took Rossi. He was never a top 5 pick in my eyes. But he would have been the safer choice over many players selected before him. When these so called analysts use the word safe, they are talking about floor.

Yeah. High floor.

 

[mianjo]

Balcers scores 2 so far

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

The fact that the author of that article embedded this tweet of his within tells you pretty much everything you need to know

 

[mianjo]

Stavanger win 4-2 Balcers with 2g
Ilves lost 5-3 to Jukerit, 0 points for Jarvente or Thompson 2 mins tripping for Thompson.
Brannstrom just starting for Langnau

 

[BondraTime]

I mean, Dobber guys are bashing the Sens draft, that's not surprising looking at their draft rankings.

I think their rankings were awful, so that basically sums up my feeling on their evaluation.

They had Stutzle 7 (-4), Sanderson 8 (-3), and Grieg 54 (-26). Of course they aren't going to like the Sens draft.

Again, that speaks more to the terrible ranking they had in place than it does an actual evaluation of the draft.

Also not sure why he's saying we played it safe with Grieg instead of taking Perrault, seeing he was off the board the pick before Grieg...As well as Sokolov hasn't been 240 pounds since March, he's 215ish. Strange to have his weight as a negative when it's 25 pounds off.

That truly was a very bad read

This part really gets me

"The same thing will be said in the future that so many Senators fans and draft analysts are saying now, why didn’t they just take the best player available? "

Best player available in the eyes of Tony Ferrari, who cares about the eyes of Trent Mann and the Sens.

 

[Xspyrit]

Calling Sanderson a safe pick is just blatantly incorrect. I’m not reading the rest

"The Ottawa Senators were blessed by the “Hockey Gods” coming into the 2020 NHL Draft"

In what sense? The Sens traded some past succesful players that they have drafted and developed, and gained valuable draft picks as a result. Maybe "luck" was related to the Sharks finishing lower than expected? Personally, I saw them imploding (but not as bad) so I disagree it was all the puck. If anything, the Sens pick went from #2 to #5. Hardly "luck"

So what is wrong with the Sens draft exactly? Normally, a team has one 1st rounder, a 2nd rounder and a 3rd rounder. That's the basis

We got out of the first round with Tim Stuetzle that Ferrari does praise so the first round is automatically a success, no? The next 2 first rounders were added bonus

"picking Sanderson was surely the safest pick but it could come with great reward"

OK safe to be a good NHL player but does recognize he has very high upside. What's wrong?

"there is no doubt that Ottawa added another intriguing and talented prospect to their pool"

Picking another NHL player with extremely low bust potential but still undetermined upside at 28th sounds very good for me.

Jarventie : ok he acknowledges it's a swing for the fences.

We also acquired Matt Murray with a 2nd round pick, a guy that had 2 Stanley Cup rings by the end of his rookie season lol

Well didn't want to finish the read. But so far it looks like a very good haul, even based on Ferrari's comments

So where's the problem?

 

[dumbdick]

It happens every year. Last year it was Aspirot, Murray, Doughtery and Labrie getting more minutes than Lajoie, Jaros and even Brannstrom at times.

Aspirot is younger than Lajoie and is a pretty good prospect. He deserved the minutes he got.

 

[BondraTime]

Aspirot is younger than Lajoie and is a pretty good prospect. He deserved the minutes he got.

Sure, that wasn't the point I was making

 

[dumbdick]

Sure, that wasn't the point I was making

Yeah i realized that after. Aimed more at whoever you were quoting.

 

[mianjo]

Langnau (Brannstrom ) lost 4-1

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Finally a Lassi Thomson highlight

That's 16 y/o Brad Lambert

 

[Johnny Hanson]

I just can’t believe the arrogance of some of these “internet scouts.” I mean seriously, a guy calling himself Tony Ferrari has the nerve to write an article suggesting that he knows better than our entire organization does on which players will end up better nhlers. Like show some humility and understand the fact that the people making these picks have spent their entire careers working in professional hockey and maybe, just maybe, know a little bit more about scouting than you do, Tony Ferrari.