GDT: 2019 Trade Deadline: Part Two/ The Wrath of Holland

[TomasHertlsRooster]

What is Chmelevski projected to be, RW or C? Gambrell is a very nice AHL rookie.

I think Chmelevski is projected to be a center but I could see him stepping in for us as a center or a winger as early as next season.

 

[NickH8]

San Jose's got a few prospects I'd be interested in. Chekhovich, Blichfeld, Chmelevski, Gregor, and Gambrell are some forwards I'd be interested in. On D they've got Kyle Wood and Jeremy Roy, I don't think they'll trade Merkley. Idk if any of those dmen have enough value.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

What do you guys think of Nyquist?

 

[SirloinUB]

So for picks, the best we can do is a late 2nd this year.

 

[Konnan511]

I just read the conditions on SAN Jose’s 2019 1st round pick and it is essentially available for trade. The way it works is that if the sharks miss the playoffs Ottawa gets SJ’s 2019 1st however if SJ makes playoffs Ott gets SJ’s 2020 1st instead.

So we could give them Nyquist for a conditioninal 1st.

If SJ makes playoffs and/or wins X amount of rounds Detroit gets the 2019 1st. If they miss playoffs/don’t win X rounds Detroit gets a 2019 2nd/3rd/whatever.

I don't think you can conditional a conditional. As far as I know, SJs first is not able to be traded.

 

[SimonEdvinssonAtSix]

I just read the conditions on SAN Jose’s 2019 1st round pick and it is essentially available for trade. The way it works is that if the sharks miss the playoffs Ottawa gets SJ’s 2019 1st however if SJ makes playoffs Ott gets SJ’s 2020 1st instead.

So we could give them Nyquist for a conditioninal 1st.

If SJ makes playoffs and/or wins X amount of rounds Detroit gets the 2019 1st. If they miss playoffs/don’t win X rounds Detroit gets a 2019 2nd/3rd.

I was curious about that. So it's confirmed that you can have multiple conditions on the same pick you're trading to different teams, as long as those conditions dont interfere with each other? If so that's interesting. I would have thought the NHL would not allow you to trade a pick with conditions on it to avoid weird scenarios like this one.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

I don't think you can conditional a conditional. As far as I know, SJs first is not able to be traded.

Our 2019 1st and 2020 1st are both unconditionally owned by one of Anaheim/Buffalo/Ottawa. The only conditions are which team owns which pick. Our 2021 1st, on the other hand, is conditionally owned by Ottawa if we win the Cup and Erik Karlsson re-signs.

The earliest 1st round pick San Jose could offer would be a conditional 2021 1st, that becomes a 2022 1st if San Jose wins the Cup and Erik Karlsson re-signs.

In other words, San Jose isn’t trading any 1sts lol

 

[SirloinUB]

What do you guys think of Nyquist?

He is quick, has a decent shot and will get to the dirty areas to score a goal but is more of a playmaker. He will backcheck hard and typically avoids “cheating” in the dzone but isnt very physical. He also isn’t the strongest on the puck but is shifty and plays with his head up. Over his career he has averaged out as a 50-55 point scorer. Personally I see him as a good second line scorer but he he is comfortable on the 1st line having played a good chunk of the season with Larkin.

 

[Austin Wings Fan]

San Jose as a trading partner makes me nervous. Their prospect pool is depleted but for a few top end guys they refused to give Ottawa for EK. It goes without saying that if they wouldn’t trade those guys for Karlsson, they certainly won’t trade them for Nyquist.

If SJ is the winning bidder, prepare for an underwhelming return.

 

[SirloinUB]

I don't think you can conditional a conditional. As far as I know, SJs first is not able to be traded.

Yea, I also forgot about the Kane trade so My initial assessment was way off haha.

 

[avssuc]

If Nyquist cites personal reasons for not waiving his NTC, how many of you would still want Holland to attempt to work out a new contract?

 

[NickH8]

Our 2019 1st and 2020 1st are both unconditionally owned by one of Anaheim/Buffalo/Ottawa. The only conditions are which team owns which pick. Our 2021 1st, on the other hand, is conditionally owned by Ottawa if we win the Cup and Erik Karlsson re-signs.

The earliest 1st round pick San Jose could offer would be a conditional 2021 1st, that becomes a 2022 1st if San Jose wins the Cup and Erik Karlsson re-signs.

In other words, San Jose isn’t trading any 1sts lol

While you're here do you want to fill us in on some prospects of yours who could be available?

 

[DetroitRed]

What do you guys think of Nyquist?

My guess is like half of us here want to re-sign him. The other half don't dislike his game, but would rather rebuild than re-sign. Obviously, he's been on the top line for several seasons and is one of about two guys who Blashill doesn't shift around a lot. He's also been a good influence on our younger guys like Larkin.

 

[DetroitRed]

If Nyquist cites personal reasons for not waiving his NTC, how many of you would still want Holland to attempt to work out a new contract?

I don't want Holland to attempt to work out any new contracts in general. Let Steve.

To answer your question though, I guess his NTC entitles him to do that kind of thing by right. So, I wouldn't blame him. I would be more disappointed in the contract in question.

 

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

No thanks on touching that lucic contract.

We are a rebuilding team, we can take on terrible contracts, especially if it means getting a player with Pulu's potential.

 

[Gecklund]

Nyquist's was seen boarding the Sharks plane a couple of hours ago.

Where did you see this? Haven’t heard anything about this

 

[datsyukfan]

We are a rebuilding team, we can take on terrible contracts, especially if it means getting a player with Pulu's potential.

It’s still 5 years at 6 mill not 1-2 years big difference

 

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

It’s still 5 years at 6 mill not 1-2 years big difference

I forgot it was for 5(!) more years. Lol Oilers.

 

[Syckle78]

If Nyquist cites personal reasons for not waiving his NTC, how many of you would still want Holland to attempt to work out a new contract?

Another contract negotiated ny Holland terrifies me. If gus isn't traded I'd hope they change gms before free agency.

 

[FrolundaRedWings]

 

[lhsgolf19]

Here we go

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

hopefully two 2nds or one and a decent prospect

 

[datsyukfan]

Please be a high price

 

[datsyukfan]

Gonna be 2 draft picks per Lebrun

 

[lhsgolf19]