Speculation: 2019 Trade Deadline III

[Ruck Over]

All I am hoping for is that the Flyers sign exactly the UFA right player or players – with a rough definition of "right" as one who produces significantly more goals than the player previously holding that position in the roster and/or who is associated with fewer goals scored on the Flyers during his time on the ice – at a salary amount commensurate to a secure team cap situation for now and the future, while making appropriate player exchanges that increase their future winning opportunities, in which the value of the players becoming Flyers significantly exceeds those who are going from the Flyers to other teams.

Not only do I agree with the sentiment, I also agree with the writing style. I am pleased there is only one period in your post.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Should've traded the pick for Grubauer. His .891 sv% would have fit in well here.

We need to stay away from Varly as well. He is about as bi-polar as you can get

 

[BernieParent]

Not only do I agree with the sentiment, I also agree with the writing style. I am pleased there is only one period in your post.

That kind of verbal diarrhea just needs to be delivered in one long, glorious, run-on sentence.

 

[TheKingPin]

I’m good with Hart and Stolie to start next year. I think Fletch is too but can’t see him going with them in case things go south. It will look bad if Stolarz isn’t playing well and Hart slumps if we passed on any vet goalie.

 

[Larry44]

I’m good with Hart and Stolie to start next year. I think Fletch is too but can’t see him going with them in case things go south. It will look bad if Stolarz isn’t playing well and Hart slumps if we passed on any vet goalie.

They'll need a veteran somewhere, just in case. This year's goaltending catastrophe cost Hexy his job, Fletch isn't going to risk it.

 

[BernieParent]

They'll need a veteran somewhere, just in case. This year's goaltending catastrophe cost Hexy his job, Fletch isn't going to risk it.

I would be good with Hart / Stolarz and Lyon / Sandstrom in a moderate risk, high reward kind of way. Stolarz's injury history would be a concern.

 

[lancer247]

They'll need a veteran somewhere, just in case. This year's goaltending catastrophe cost Hexy his job, Fletch isn't going to risk it.

I wonder if they just wait out the market and see if guys like Elliot, Talbot, etc are still around.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Idk if you are quoting them as examples of success or being sarcastic, but none of these guys have played an NHL game so none are success stories at this point. Could be at some point, but until then I would not use them as examples of good drafting.

You don't need to see someone play in the NHL to determine if they were good acquisitions or not. You don't need to see Myers play in the NHL to determine that he was a good pickup.

 

[tictactoe]

We need players that play solid defensive game forwards and defense man.

 

[bobbythebrain]

5 points out and closing. I doubt Simmer goes anywhere at the TDL if this continues.

 

[Tripod]

5 points out and closing. I doubt Simmer goes anywhere at the TDL if this continues.

It's 5 points out, but also CBus has 2 games in hand.

 

[bobbythebrain]

It's 5 points out, but also CBus has 2 games in hand.

Ya I haven't looked into the whole dynamics of our shot TBH. Just making a point that i don't see us trading a heart and soul player like Simmer if we're in the mix. Sucks to perhaps to lose him for nothing, but worth it for a strong push imo

 

[bobbythebrain]

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[prototypical4thliner]

My brain says that they need to cut ties with simmer for the haul they could get. Also the other loose ends they can clear out.

Heart says some of the guys we have long term plans deserve to at least not see their chances cut out from underneath them, which I assume that is the optics of if they move Simmonds.

I think the worst case is them resigning him. It blocks one prospect—whomever it is.

 

[Bigkarl]

If they win 8 more straight, I'll be ok with keeping Simmer...

The crazy thing is Columbus has lost 5 straight and are falling apart and Buffalo is 3-7 in their last 10. Could get a little interesting down the stretch

 

[Tripod]

Maybe this is what they meant when they said we would be both sellers and buyers.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Blues traded Statsny last year while in the playoffs. Don’t be fooled, we have to move Simmer

 

[BernieParent]

Button with the voice of reasons:

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/game/vancouver-canucks-philadelphia-flyers-20190204

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

Blues traded Statsny last year while in the playoffs. Don’t be fooled, we have to move Simmer

And promptly missed the playoffs.

 

[bobbythebrain]

Maybe this is what they meant when they said we would be both sellers and buyers.

Good point. Maybe we do both

As more for your CLB reply, they are in a massive crunch to make a decision on Bob and Pana before losing them for nothing. Those 2 games in hand might just be a formality at this point

 

[BernieParent]

Simmonds still at #3 on the TSN trade bait board.

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

You don't need to see someone play in the NHL to determine if they were good acquisitions or not. You don't need to see Myers play in the NHL to determine that he was a good pickup.

Novel idea. Scouts get credit for drafting good players before we know if they are good players because before they reach the NHL people think they might turn out to be a good player. Myers is a good prospect along with a lot of other players, but if they don't eeve amount to anything I'm not going to laud our scouts and give them credit for picking guys we thought would be good but turned out to suck.

 

[baudib1]

Novel idea. Scouts get credit for drafting good players before we know if they are good players because before they reach the NHL people think they might turn out to be a good player. Myers is a good prospect along with a lot of other players, but if they don't eeve amount to anything I'm not going to laud our scouts and give them credit for picking guys we thought would be good but turned out to suck.

This is just results-oriented thinking. Scouts can identify talent and attempt to asses their upside but everything after signing is up to the team’s development program. If Fletcher leaves Myers in LHV for five years and Myers decides to retire, it doesn’t mean the scouts were wrong about him.

Myers has already exceeded expectations.

 

[baudib1]

40% chance Simmer isn’t traded.

 

[Johnk0728]

This is just results-oriented thinking. Scouts can identify talent and attempt to asses their upside but everything after signing is up to the team’s development program. If Fletcher leaves Myers in LHV for five years and Myers decides to retire, it doesn’t mean the scouts were wrong about him.

Myers has already exceeded expectations.

Sports is a results-oriented business. Drafting results are not subjective. If the player fails to succeed in the NHL; then the result of the pick is graded as such. Too many excuses on this board for prospects....its never that the beloved prospect was not good enough; its the coaches system, development flaw etc. An athlete never pays no mind to that crap when they are playing. If they are good; then they just flat out rise above and succeed. Myers will get his chance in the NHL; lets see how he does instead of declaring him great without playing an NHL game.

 

[Johnk0728]

You don't need to see someone play in the NHL to determine if they were good acquisitions or not. You don't need to see Myers play in the NHL to determine that he was a good pickup.

Huh? You kind of do need to see how they fare in the NHL to assess if it was a good acquisition by an NHL team. You can project and predict that they will succeed in the NHL. But NHL play is kind of important to judge an NHL draft pick.