Red Sox/MLB 2019 Regular Season II - David Ortiz shot in the DR

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McGarnagle

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This whole thing reminds me of 2006 when we kind of sucked out the gate and we traded Cla Meredith to get Doug Mirabelli back to massive fanfare and police escorts, and Wakefield was just as mediocre afterward as he was with Josh Bard or whoever the backup catcher was before.
 

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They were throwing high leverage innings on short rest constantly in October and November. That adds up. Your point becomes incredibly disingenuous when you call eovaldi a “reliever” and act like what he did wouldn’t carry over. Chris Sale came off a shoulder injury and then threw stressful innings in October and November on short rest. Price did the same. Porcello kinda looked like toast since the 2nd half of last year and wasn’t good with Leon anyway so his struggles are unrelated.

They’re all still playing ball a month to two months after everybody else has started offseason work for the next year. That absolutely matters.

What we learned last night is that a catcher doesn’t make pitchers throw it over the center of the plate, like a poster argued with me on page 3. Swihart has nothing to do with their struggles. Vazquez has nothing to do with their struggles. The lack of Leon has nothing to do with their struggles. The presence of Leon last night had nothing to do with their struggles (outside of contributing to a donut with some hilarious AB’s). Throwing the ball down the middle (or in porcellos case throwing the ball everywhere the ball shouldn’t be) has nothing to do with the catcher
 
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Your point becomes incredibly disingenuous when you call eovaldi a “reliever” and act like what he did wouldn’t carry over.

Nope. Not what I was doing.

Chris Sale came off a shoulder injury and then threw stressful innings in October and November on short rest. Price did the same. Porcello kinda looked like toast since the 2nd half of last year and wasn’t good with Leon anyway so his struggles are unrelated.

They’re all still playing ball a month to two months after everybody else has started offseason work for the next year. That absolutely matters.

Price had the highest workload by far and he's performing on par with last season, so..........
 

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Price also has one of the most unnaturally durable arms James Andrews has ever seen. And really, Price has had one quality start out of 3 so not a great point!
 

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Win tonight and we’ll be OK somehow I think we find .500 in May.

But this team needed a move for the sake of making a move and the Leon call up was a crappy move. Should have called up Rusney.
 

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My pitching move to send a message is trade free agent to be Porcello for another free agent to be arm. Just for the sake of some change and to send a message. Why not?
 

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Price also has one of the most unnaturally durable arms James Andrews has ever seen. And really, Price has had one quality start out of 3 so not a great point!

I just said he was on par with last year, not that he was good. His ERA is essentially the same.

Should have called up Rusney.

Never gonna happen because of the luxury tax issue. Dude could hit .500 in the minors and it won't make any difference.
 

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This whole thing reminds me of 2006 when we kind of sucked out the gate and we traded Cla Meredith to get Doug Mirabelli back to massive fanfare and police escorts, and Wakefield was just as mediocre afterward as he was with Josh Bard or whoever the backup catcher was before.
The issue was Bard couldn't actually catch him, not game calling.

Bard had some insane amount of PB's in limited games with Wakefield, to the point that it was a genuine issue.

I still think it was a reactionary move, but they really didn't have much of a choice.
 

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Sox get a great start from Eovaldi, get some offense, and Braiser f***s it all up by giving up a grand slam to that hardo Gardner
 

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I guess if you told me this would be the price of a title I would be okay with it. This team is not enjoyable to watch right now.

Pretty much where I’m at

This is pretty damn gross. It’s not like the games are even close in a lot of cases
 

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That’s fine, he was underpaid for most of his career anyway


The good news is Chavis has hit dingers 470, 467, and 430+ tonight in the last handful of days. Hopefully he’s taking to 2B, I haven’t seen much of an update on that. He’s been playing 1B, 2B, and 3B. He’s kind of a butcher in the field but so is Nunez so f*** it, get the butcher that hits
 

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What's the opposite of a career year, because 7/9 of our lineup and 4/5 of our rotation is doing that
 
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