Josepho
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My first impression from watching Podkolzin a few times is that, as talented as he is, he doesn't strike me as someone who uses his linemates well.
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We aren't taking podkolzin with our first...Benning doesn't have the balls to take a Russian that high
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I don’t blame him. That would suck if he decides to dip.
In the past for other cities they've been super cheap, like 10-20 bucks. I suppose just factor a bit of Vancouver inflation on top of that. They tend not to go on sale until close to the draft.
Yeah, to add on top of that, if we have a high pick im sure it will go up as well. I dont really want to pay 50+ dollars to go to the draft, but i also want to see it considering it rarely is in VAN.
I'm currently living in Victoria. Not too enamoured with Newhook ATM.
The top two/top-four tiers are where we desperately need to be at the draft.
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There are more and more criticisms of Newhook’s game. What did you see that you didn’t like?
I don’t the Canucks are in the top4 range this draft. DET is terrible. NYR is right there. OTT will come back to earth and LA, STL, FLA have been slow to start. VAN will have some work ahead of it to fall to the bottom. Either that, or win the lottery...
I’m projecting them at about #6 or #7. That gets them into the range of Suzuki, Soderstrom or Turcotte.
Just don't think that Newhook is much of a playdriver, which echoes what others have said. He's kind of "sneaky" and can create in a flash, but he doesn't control the pace of games at even the Junior A level.
I could be wrong, but I believe the same was said of Tarasenko at some point?
He loves to make highlight reel plays, and he goes for them a lot, I wouldn't consider him greedy though.
One of my favourite players in the class. As a German myself, I naturally gravitate and watch them a little more than others. He hasn't popped off f the scoresheet, but he shouldn't as a 17 year old playing in the DEL. Big right handed defensemen are always valuable, and Seider brings that tough physical attribute that you look for in a defenseman. He doesn't back down and is always so strong on his feet and skates, making him near impossible to jostle or budge out of the way. His passing is impressive, with lots of breakout passes and quick tape to tape cross ice ones with great accuracy and vision. People see that he hasn't scored too many points or done impressive things and automatically write him off, but he's not that Dahlin type of defender who's going to wow you with end to end breakaway speed and puck control, although he can breakout in a rush with the puck at his stick and show some flare. His shot generates tons of power with his large frame and I'd like to see him utilize it a bit more because it is quite blistering. Skates quite well for a big guy, could work on edges a bit but speed is great. I'd like to see him also stay involved in games as well and maybe not fade too much because when he's not throwing crisp passes or laying out attackers, he can be forgotten, although playing in a men's league can do that to you.
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Regardless of where this team is at approaching the deadline, they need to acquire additional picks.
Adding another high-end forward at the top of the draft and a dman towards the back-half of the 1st would be ideal.
Adding another high-end forward at the top of the draft and a dman towards the back-half of the 1st would be ideal.
J. Hughes- Horvat - Pettersson
Boeser- Q. Hughes
PP1 next year if we get the first pick lol. Drool.
Boeser- Q. Hughes
PP1 next year if we get the first pick lol. Drool.
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Even Kakko instead of J. Hughes would be nice there. I think he'd be a perfect fit in that slot spot that we are missing the right fit for. It's unfortunate he's a lefty but EP40 will make it work.
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I agree completely, but I've made a bet that it won't happen -- that Benning won't acquire any extra picks in the first three rounds.
What does he have that would get
Him extra picks aside from his 2 Dmen. Whom he also needs to play with his 2 first round pick Dmen? This the double edge sword. They can get you assets but leaves the D looking like hot garbage without them.
Sutter, if they retain on him gets them a pick. Doubt any of the other D land that unless Hutton’s game remains where it currently is. Maybe granny gets a 3rd if he continues to show versatility to move up and down the lineup.
But that’s pretty much it. The vets they signed this year aren’t tradable with the term they have. Nilsson, see how he plays heading down the stretch but I doubt backup goalies without playoff experience are that highly sought after.
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Hasn't he gone on record saying that he prefers young players instead of draft picks? (eg. Dahlen & Goldobin)
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I recall something like that, but I don't put much stock in what Benning says, because of his difficulties expressing himself clearly. Regardless, his actions make his preference clear. (also hence my bet)
It should never be exclusively one or the other. Depends on what teams are prepared to give up.
The reasoning for prospects like what Benning did in 2017 is that you get guys who are closer to 20 rather than getting 18 year olds. Hopefully that means a better read on them and that they are closer to playing.
Some teams prefer to give up picks rather than their prospects. So you trust your scouts and take them and run with it.
Aside from Edler and Tanev no canuck who is over 24 nets a 1st round pick.
Sutter I’d retained gets a 2nd and something.
Bear needs to come back and play but he’s not a typical forward that teams go after at the tdl. Not an expiring contract and really has like no playoff experience to draw from.
Depending on how it goes Hutton and granny best case gets a 3rd. Hutton have to consider contract as his QO is $2.8 million. Is he worth that come tdl?
Al others are very late picks at best and some aren’t going anywhere due to term.
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Outside of the top4 of Kakko, Hughes, Dach and Cozens, the player for me still seems to be Turcotte. He does everything and is still very skilled. However after him, or even in the place of him, my early target would be Suzuki. He is the best playmaker in the draft, IMO, and his skill level is higher than Turcotte's own. What's more, Suzuki's production has been great out of the gate.
Granted, there are some intensity/motor criticisms of Suzuki and people have called out his perimeter play. He's a finesse player. Saying that, imagine if he rectifies some of those deficiencies post draft? You would have a high end player on your hands as a result. I also see an easy conversion to LW for him if that is required.
This kid is going to climb the draft charts (if he hasn't already).
Granted, there are some intensity/motor criticisms of Suzuki and people have called out his perimeter play. He's a finesse player. Saying that, imagine if he rectifies some of those deficiencies post draft? You would have a high end player on your hands as a result. I also see an easy conversion to LW for him if that is required.
This kid is going to climb the draft charts (if he hasn't already).
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| Team | Player | Position | Points in D-1 | Points on Nov. 1st / '18 | DOB | Commitment | Notes |
| USNTDP | Cole Caufield | C/RW | 33P in 32GP | 8P in 5GP for NTDP / 12P in 13GP for U.S. U-18 | 2001/01/02 | University of Wisconsin | |
| USNTDP | Alex Turcotte | C | 32P in 31GP | 0P in 1GP for NTDP / 2P in 3GP for U.S. U-18 | 2001/02/26 | University of Wisconsin | Oct. 30th: "Alex Turcotte... returned Sunday from a month-long absence because of a lower-body injury." |
| USNTDP | Judd Caulfield | F | 21P in 32GP | 5P in 5GP for NTDP / 11P in 13GP for U.S. U-18 | 2001/03/19 | University of North Dakota | |
| USNTDP | John Beecher | C | 25P in 34GP | 4P in 5GP for NTDP / 9P in 13GP for U.S. U-18 | 2001/04/05 | University of Michigan | |
| USNTDP | Michael Gildon | F | 23P in 34GP / Playoffs 1P in 8GP | 3P in 3GP for NTDP / 6P in 10GP for U.S U-18 | 2001/06/21 | Ohio State | |
| USNTDP | Matthew Boldy | F | 35P in 34GP | 7P in 5GP for NTDP / 17P in 13GP for U.S. U-18 | 2001/04/05 | Boston College | |
| USNTDP | Cameron York | D | 14P in 33GP | 5P in 5GP for NTDP / 13P in 13GP for U.S. U-18 | 2001/01/05 | Boston College | |
| USNTDP | Patrick Moynihan | C | 19P in 34GP / Playoffs 3P in 8GP | 3P in 5GP for NTDP / 4P in 13GP for U.S. U-18 | 2001/01/23 | Boston College | |
| USNTDP --> Central Illinois (USHL) | Ryan Siedem | D | 14P in 34GP / Playoffs 2P in 8GP | 4P in 10GP | 2001/02/25 | | |
| USNTDP | Danny Weight | F | 22P in 31GP / Playoffs 5P in 8GP | 1P in 4GP for NTDP / 4P in 13GP for U.S. U-18 | 2001/05/01 | Boston College | |
| USNTDP | Case McCarthy | D | 9P in 22GP | 5P in 5GP for NTDP / 5P in 13GP for U.S U-18 | 2001/01/09 | Boston University | |
| USNTDP --> Central Illinois (USHL) | Trevor Janicke | RW | 18P in 62GP | 12P in 10GP | 2000/12/25 | University of Notre Dame | |
| USNTDP | Marshall Warren | D | 18P in 34GP / Playoffs 5P in 8GP | 0P in 3GP for NTDP / 3P in 7GP for U.S. U-18 | 2001/04/20 | Harvard | |
| USNTDP / Muskegon | John Farinacci | C | 3P in 5GP | 0P in 2GP for NTDP / 0P in 2GP for U.S U-18 / 3P in 2GP for Muskegon | 2001/02/14 | Harvard | |
| USNTDP | Cameron Rowe | G | 4.29GAA and .870SVP in 23GP / 3.76GAA and .893SVP in 8GP | 3.72GAA and .866SVP in 3GP for NTDP / 4.42GAA and .847SVP in 8GP for U.S. U-18 | 2001/06/01 | | |
| Cedar Rapids | Grant Silianoff | F | 2P in 2GP | 7P in 9GP | 2001/01/04 | Notre Dame | |
| Central Illinois | Brady Meyer | C | 6P in 13GP | 3P in 11GP | 2000/10/17 | University of Minnesota-Duluth | |
| Central Illinois | Bradley Marek | F | 12P in 32GP | 3P in 10GP | 2000/11/13 | Michigan State | |
| Chicago | Robert Mastrosimone | C | 45P in 60GP / Playoffs 4P in 7GP | 10P in 9GP | 2001/01/24 | Boston University | Named alternate captain for Chicago |
| Chicago | Travis Treloar | C | 1P in 4GP / Playoffs 0P in 2GP | 6P in 9GP | 2001/05/12 | Western Michigan | |
| Des Moines | Kaden Bohlsen | F | 2P in 27GP | 5P in 11GP | 2001/01/10 | University of Minnesota | |
| Dubuque --> Duluth East (HS) | Ryder Donovan | C | 0P in 5GP between 2 teams / Playoffs 0P in 5GP | <<statistics unavailable>> | 2000/10/04 | University of North Dakota | |
| Green Bay | Ethan Frisch | D | 6P in 14GP / Playoffs 0P in 2GP | 4P in 11GP | 2000/10/29 | University of North Dakota | |
| Muskegon | Yegor Afanasyev | F | 14P in 45GP / Playoffs 2P in 3GP | 10P in 8GP | 2001/01/23 | Michigan State | |
| Omaha | Brian Silver | D | 1P in 10GP | 5P in 9GP | 2000/11/06 | Michigan State | |
| Waterloo ---> Sherbrooke (QMJHL) | |||||||
| Youngstown | Jack Malone | F | 14P in 52GP / Playoffs 2P in 8GP | 4P in 8GP | 2000/10/13 | Cornell |
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| Team | Player | Position | Points in D-1 | Points on Nov. 1st / 18 | DOB | Commitment | Notes |
| Victoria | Alex Newhook | C | 66P in 45GP / Playoffs 9 points in 12 GP | 30P in 20GP | 2001/01/28 | Boston College | Named captain for Victoria |
| Penticton | Massimo Rizzo | F | 39P in 50G / Playoffs 10P in 11GP | 0P in 1GP | 2001/06/13 | University of North Dakota | Named captain for Penticton, but then... "New captain Massimo Rizzo sustained an upper-body injury during off-season training..." |
| Langley | Ethan Leyh | F | 31P in 53G / Playoffs 7P in 6GP | 16P in 18GP | 2001/06/07 | University of Wisconsin | |
| Vernon | Alex Swetlikoff | F | 15P in 51G / Playoffs 4P in 10GP | 10P in 15GP | 2001/07/06 | University of Denver | |
| Prince George | Layton Ahac | D | 28P in 57GP / Playoffs 5P in 24GP | 8P in 18GP | 2001/02/22 | Ohio State | |
| Wenatchee ---> Buffalo Jr. Sabres (OJHL) | Nick Kent | D | 0P in 24GP / Playoffs 0P in 16GP | 13P in 20GP | 2001/02/01 | Quinnipiac | |
| Alberni | Keaton Mastrodonato | C | 42P in 58GP / Playoffs 2P in 7GP | 12P in 18GP | 2000/09/24 | Canisius |
Josepho
i want the bartkowski thread back
One of the obvious, Arvidsson-style overagers available in later rounds seems to be Brett Leason.
Statistically speaking Suzuki is having a more impressive year than Cozens and I don't know why Cozens is considered so unanimously high or even mentionable under the same breath as Dach.
Statistically speaking Suzuki is having a more impressive year than Cozens and I don't know why Cozens is considered so unanimously high or even mentionable under the same breath as Dach.
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| Team | Player | Position | Points in D-1 | Points on Nov. 1st / 18 | DOB | Commitment |
| Brooks | Luke Bast | D | 31P in 57GP / Playoffs 13P in 15GP | 10P in 11GP | 2000/11/20 | University of North Dakota |
| Grande Prairie | Zachary Okabe | F | 57P in 58GP / Playoffs 5P in 9GP | 22P in 19GP | 2001/01/04 | University of Vermont |
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| Team | Player | Position | Points in D-1 | Points on Nov. 1st / 18 | DOB | Commitment |
| Aurora ---> Green Bay (USHL) | Chris Giroday | D | 49P in 48GP / Playoffs 11P in 16GP | 4P in 11GP | 2000/12/13 | Western Michigan |
| Aurora ---> Sioux Falls (USHL) | Anthony Romano | RW | 44P in 40GP / Playoffs 10P in 9GP | 7P in 9GP | 2000/10/07 | Clarkson |
| St. Michael's ---> Green Bay (USHL) | Nicholas Zabaneh | F | 34P in 44GP / Playoffs 1P in 4GP | 4P in 11GP | 2001/03/27 | University of Michigan |
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