Rumor: 2019-2020 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Thread XI (Apparently 19-20 Will Never End)

[Richard88]

Add Krug, then trade Byram to Anaheim in a package for Gibson and Rakell.

Landeskog ----- Mackinnon ----- Rantanen
Rakell ------------- Kadri --------- Burakovsky
Nichuskin ------- Compher* ----- Donskoi
Calvert ---------- Bellemare ------ Kaut
O'Connor

Krug ---- Makar
Girard -- Johnson
Graves -- Timmins

Gibson
Grubauer/Francouz

Not sure how that would work cap-wise but I'm sure we can massage contracts for depth pieces and/or make a trade or two to fit things in. Also, the asterisk on Compher denotes that we could acquire a 3C rental at the deadline to put us over the top.

Tell me that this team doesn't walk the cup in 2021... with enough capspace to also add a 3C at the deadline...

 

[Balthazar]

Tell me that this team doesn't walk the cup in 2021... with enough capspace to also add a 3C at the deadline...

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We have zero defense depth though...and that's including Timmins.

 

[Richard88]

I’d think trading for good players on Girard type contracts is more along the lines of what they’d want.

If we sign Krug, he’d be making 7ish? We’d be paying Girard 5 million on the left side. If Byram and/or Newhook explode, you have to wonder if we can even afford them? That might be true even without Krug. Byram’s value is extremely high now.

If we sign Krug then it probably makes sense to dangle Byram for 1-2 elite additions. Anaheim would be a prime hunting ground, with Rakell and Gibson the optimal targets in this case.

 

[Richard88]

We have zero defense depth though...and that's including Timmins.

You're right, RHD is a little iffy. Maybe sign someone better than Merrill as 7D (and also a RHD) as insurance.

 

[Balthazar]

If we sign Krug then it probably makes sense to dangle Byram

I want to believe that if it's true that we are after Krug it's because we have a trade in the works for Byram. That's the only way it somewhat makes sense. But even then, it makes more sense to keep ELC Byram than ~8M Krug so I don't f***ing know.

 

[Balthazar]

Say we sign Krug and trade Byram for someone else...who could that be? Keep in mind that we no longer have the cap room for a top player like Laine or Gaudreau because of Krug.

Yeah the whole Krug thing makes zero sense.

 

[Avs_19]

Krug's a good player but not what the Avs need. No thank you.

Brodie on a short-team deal would be a good option though if his market isn't strong. He's nowhere near as bad as some people here say he is.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Add Krug, then trade Byram to Anaheim in a package for Gibson and Rakell.

Landeskog ----- Mackinnon ----- Rantanen
Rakell ------------- Kadri --------- Burakovsky
Nichuskin ------- Compher* ----- Donskoi
Calvert ---------- Bellemare ------ Kaut
O'Connor

Krug ---- Makar
Girard -- Johnson
Graves -- Timmins

Gibson
Grubauer/Francouz

Not sure how that would work cap-wise but I'm sure we can massage contracts for depth pieces and/or make a trade or two to fit things in. Also, the asterisk on Compher denotes that we could acquire a 3C rental at the deadline to put us over the top.

Gibson is locked up through 2027. This isn’t a horrible idea. I think it would be a bigger trade though since Grubauer would likely be going the other way.

We’d still likely need at least one stay at home defenseman, preferably with some size/strength.

 

[Balthazar]

Hamonic played 17:12 per night for the Flames at even-strength this year, the second-most of anyone on the Flames (only behind Noah Hanifin’s 17:13). He played some of the toughest minutes on the team, with his 54.09% defensive-zone face-off percentage the highest of any Flames defenseman. That’s a hard role to fill effectively.


Wonder if he'd accept a short term contract....I'm not a big fan but that's the kind 3rd pairing RHD/PKer we could have used in the playoffs.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

I'll post this again....

Byrum + Annunen + 24th OA + Gru + Zads + Jost + 2021 1st to Anaheim for Lindholm, Gibson, and Getzlaf ($4M retained)

JTC + Cole to Ottawa for 2nd round pick

Bura - 5 years - $5.25M per
Nuke - 1 year - $2.5M
Graves - 3 years - $2.75M per
LOC - 2 years - $750k per
DeMelo 3 years- $2.75M per

Leaves you around $3M to fill out the roster with 3 more players, and after next year leaves you with just over $20.5M to sign Landy, Nuke, and Makar (assuming Getzlaf, Calvert, and PEB aren't resigned)

9296
Nuke/Naz/Bura
Dong/Getz/Kaut
Cal/PEB/LOC

Lindy/Makar
G/EJ
Graves/DeMelo

Gibson
Frank

Win Cup.

 

[Avs_19]

Hamonic played 17:12 per night for the Flames at even-strength this year, the second-most of anyone on the Flames (only behind Noah Hanifin’s 17:13). He played some of the toughest minutes on the team, with his 54.09% defensive-zone face-off percentage the highest of any Flames defenseman. That’s a hard role to fill effectively.


Wonder if he'd accept a short term contract....I'm not a big fan but that's the kind 3rd pairing RHD/PKer we could have used in the playoffs.

Stay away. I've watched enough Flames games to know that Brodie makes mistakes but he can skate and move the puck. Hamonic makes mistakes and can't move the puck. He's the classic hard nosed defensive defenseman at this point in his career. He's Ian Cole.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Say we sign Krug and trade Byram for someone else...who could that be? Keep in mind that we no longer have the cap room for a top player like Laine or Gaudreau because of Krug.

Yeah the whole Krug thing makes zero sense.

I’d think they’d want someone with a good contract that has term. Schieffele/Ehlers/Gibson/Nylander are examples of people who would be involved?

Maybe something with Byram and Newhook to Florida for Barkov/Ekblad?

 

[John Mandalorian]

Stay away. I've watched enough Flames games to know that Brodie makes mistakes but he can skate and move the puck. Hamonic makes mistakes and can't move the puck. He's the classic hard nosed defensive defenseman at this point in his career. He's Ian Cole.

He’s not Ian Cole unless his first pass is routinely to no one in particular. It’s hard to imagine anyone worse in this regard than Ian Cole.

 

[shadow1]

It doesn't seem like there's a spot for Krug on the left side of the defense, but he's definitely better than most of the guys on the Avalanche's blue line, so I can fathom the rumor.

Even if Colorado acquires him, I'd be surprised if he signs here. My guess is Sakic would offer a three year deal, which would coincide both with MacKinnon's current deal and Byram's ELC expiring.

But you have to imagine Krug will be looking for the biggest, longest contract he can get as a 29-year-old UFA. I still have my money on him ending up in his hometown Detroit.

 

[John Mandalorian]

It doesn't seem like there's a spot for Krug on the left side of the defense, but he's definitely better than most of the guys on the Avalanche's blue line, so I can fathom the rumor.

Even if Colorado acquires him, I'd be surprised if he signs here. My guess is Sakic would offer a three year deal, which would coincide both with MacKinnon's current deal and Byram's ELC expiring.

But you have to imagine Krug will be looking for the biggest, longest contract he can get as a 29-year-old UFA. I still have my money on him ending up in his hometown Detroit.

The biggest takeaway is that the Avs are probably open to trading Byram. The more you think about it, the more it makes sense.

 

[S3rkie]

Shit i'd rather they give up real assets for Ekblad if he's actually available. Then hire a new special teams staff and get a 3c stopgap at the deadline since Bowers most likely isnt ready yet.

 

[shadow1]

The biggest takeaway is that the Avs are probably open to trading Byram. The more you think about it, the more it makes sense.

I don't believe anything about this rumor infers the Avalanche will trade Byram this off-season. I think there's a lot of middle between the Avs being interested in Krug and them being open to trading Byram.

Signing Krug - who will turn 30 before Byram turns 20 - to a short term deal isn't going to impact the Avalanche's long term plans for Byram.

Sakic said in an interview a few weeks ago that he saw last off-season as a bit of an overhaul and sees this off-season as adding around the edges, which makes sense based on the club's performance this year.

 

[John Mandalorian]

I don't believe anything about this rumor infers the Avalanche will trade Byram this off-season. I think there's a lot of middle between the Avs being interested in Krug and them being open to trading Byram.

Signing Krug - who will turn 30 before Byram turns 20 - to a short term deal isn't going to impact the Avalanche's long term plans for Byram.

Sakic said in an interview a few weeks ago that he saw last off-season as a bit of an overhaul and sees this off-season as adding around the edges, which makes sense based on the club's performance this year.

Krug has been quoted saying it’s time for him to cash in.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Say we sign Krug and trade Byram for someone else...who could that be? Keep in mind that we no longer have the cap room for a top player like Laine or Gaudreau because of Krug.

Yeah the whole Krug thing makes zero sense.

Gibson hopefully. Or as part of a deal for somebody like Huberdeau? Those are the only types of deals I’d approve if we’re moving Bo.

 

[shadow1]

Krug has been quoted saying it’s time for him to cash in.

I don’t believe it’ll be here, even if the Avalanche trade for his negotiating rights.

 

[AvalancheSpeedsters]

Gibson hopefully. Or as part of a deal for somebody like Huberdeau? Those are the only types of deals I’d approve if we’re moving Bo.

Agreed . Huberdeau be awesome , but Florida would be crazy to trade him . Same with Anaheim with Gibson: both are still young enough to build around

 

[Balthazar]

I don’t believe it’ll be here, even if the Avalanche trade for his negotiating rights.

What Krug said about short term deal/hometown discount:

“I’m very opposed to that. I’ve bet on myself and I’ve taken shorter term deals and less amount of money my whole career now,” Krug said in his end of the year availability last week.

"This is my time in terms of my value at its peak and I have the ability and I’m in a position now where I need to make the most of it. I’m very opposed to something like that. I’ve done it long enough now. That’s the situation I’m facing.”


Sure doesn't sound like someone Sakic would go after

 

[Avsboy]

I would support a Krug move. He's 29 so a bit old, but puts up big points, would help in all areas, partner for Makar. Veteran presence.

 

[shadow1]

What Krug said about short term deal/hometown discount:

“I’m very opposed to that. I’ve bet on myself and I’ve taken shorter term deals and less amount of money my whole career now,” Krug said in his end of the year availability last week.

"This is my time in terms of my value at its peak and I have the ability and I’m in a position now where I need to make the most of it. I’m very opposed to something like that. I’ve done it long enough now. That’s the situation I’m facing.”

Right out of the horses mouth as to why I don’t think he’ll sign here - I don’t believe the Avalanche will offer a 5+ year deal.

 

[Peter Peckerwood]

No on Laine, Krug, Gudreau, Brodie....
No on Byram other than if blockbuster someone like Anaheim...Gibson, Manson, etc.
Yes to any number of TB players, Danault, Bonino...maybe, AP.