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Not enough cap savings for TML. That trade is cap neutral. They need to take no money back.
Speculation: 2019-20 Expected Blackhawks Roster Part 5
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Kevin Musto
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Keep dreaming. I would eat my underpants if Tampa Bay sent Sergachev to dump Cally.
Pick 27? Maybe
Blackhawkswincup
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I'd do that deal in a heartbeat. Question do you think we could get more from them then that?
well i am hoping this is ok to use this thread as a place to post this.
Exploring a trade for Nikita
Chicago Blackhawks: Exploring a trade for Nikita Zaitsev
ideas for trading for Artem Anisimov
Chicago Blackhawks: Three trade proposals for Artem Anisimov
Exploring a trade for Nikita
Chicago Blackhawks: Exploring a trade for Nikita Zaitsev
ideas for trading for Artem Anisimov
Chicago Blackhawks: Three trade proposals for Artem Anisimov
Toews2Bickell
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i was really undecided on the proposal .... at first i thought what the hell was the thought process esp with the thread on the main board about Zaitsev.
then i am thinking if this is a salary dump and the rtn is not huge maybe it might be worth the trade.
just my thought process and prob over thinking things as i usually do. lol
featherhawk
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I think most people know that help is on the way, having said that Joker was with the hawks last year for about half the season and to be honest unless you know something I don't besides the fact that Stan stated he is planning on making changes on the back end; the defence this upcoming season at this point it is going to be very, very similar to that of last year...
last year
Keith
murphy
kookoo
seabrook
gus
dahlstrom
joker
forsling
what we know coming back next year thus far is
Keith
murphy
kookoo
seabrook
gus
dahlstrom
joker
(maybe forsling but he is an RFA that is still in limbo)
guys that could make a difference include;
Hillman
Krys
Carlsson
FA
guys via trade....
TheDachKnight
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Now I really hope we make this trade so you have to eat your underpants.
I expect Gilbert to be in the mix as well, and most likely to make the roster out of the fringe guys.
Look
.at some point SOME the draft INVESTMENTS Stan and Kelley have made building depth in the D-pipeline MUST pay dividends by helping us in the show and we CANNOT seek other more expensive "solutions" off other teams while depressing chances of our own kids to come in and take spots..this would be insanity as it would then DEMAND STAN and Kelley be fored as incompetent drafters of Dmen...Nd guys who WASTED our drFts..we simply should not look for more expense band-aids on D from other teams ...it is philosophically wrong g to stifle the paths of our soon to come pipeline d-aid to block their paths because of No Room At The Inn because we have loaded with too many NHL vets.
Rather the focus should be to improve the bottom2 line forwards with Competent NHL vets who can actually check somebody and help on a miserable pk..
In this regard we should look at bro hing back Michael Frolik who CGY wants to shed for cap reasons.. his cap hit is $4.3 but his salary is just $3million on his 1yr remaining deal ..
He would help our bottom 6 and be good on the pk...
It would be like a 1yr rental unless he is willing to extend for a more reasonable cap hit as a bottom 6 role player..He has a limited NTC ...so maybe he would agree to come back to Chicago? WE would be helping CGY with their cap issues so I do not think they e oect a lot back in any trade...maybe a 2020 3rd rounder and a conditional 4th rounder for 2021 if Frolik signs an extention with us..or a prospect from our pipeline that probably do not see making our lineup..
Whatever..it should not cost us much to get him..
Frolik was the best Czech player at the WHC...not asking him to take a top 2 line role ..but he could fill up there if we get an injury to a top 6 winger.
Rather have Frokik than John Hayden marginal NHLer types we keep putting h I the lineup on the 4th line.
.at some point SOME the draft INVESTMENTS Stan and Kelley have made building depth in the D-pipeline MUST pay dividends by helping us in the show and we CANNOT seek other more expensive "solutions" off other teams while depressing chances of our own kids to come in and take spots..this would be insanity as it would then DEMAND STAN and Kelley be fored as incompetent drafters of Dmen...Nd guys who WASTED our drFts..we simply should not look for more expense band-aids on D from other teams ...it is philosophically wrong g to stifle the paths of our soon to come pipeline d-aid to block their paths because of No Room At The Inn because we have loaded with too many NHL vets.
Rather the focus should be to improve the bottom2 line forwards with Competent NHL vets who can actually check somebody and help on a miserable pk..
In this regard we should look at bro hing back Michael Frolik who CGY wants to shed for cap reasons.. his cap hit is $4.3 but his salary is just $3million on his 1yr remaining deal ..
He would help our bottom 6 and be good on the pk...
It would be like a 1yr rental unless he is willing to extend for a more reasonable cap hit as a bottom 6 role player..He has a limited NTC ...so maybe he would agree to come back to Chicago? WE would be helping CGY with their cap issues so I do not think they e oect a lot back in any trade...maybe a 2020 3rd rounder and a conditional 4th rounder for 2021 if Frolik signs an extention with us..or a prospect from our pipeline that probably do not see making our lineup..
Whatever..it should not cost us much to get him..
Frolik was the best Czech player at the WHC...not asking him to take a top 2 line role ..but he could fill up there if we get an injury to a top 6 winger.
Rather have Frokik than John Hayden marginal NHLer types we keep putting h I the lineup on the 4th line.
RememberTheRoar
“I’m not as worried about the 5-on-5 scoring.”
A fourth line of say like Caggiula-Kampf-Frolik should be significantly more impactful than Boston’s fourth line. At least on-paper.
my whole point, with ref to Zaitsev, is how talented is he. judgement with vs Murph.
the second point is how much is it worth to Tor to do this salary dump, as i mention in the org post. Tor wants to ease their cap and well they will need to pony up for a team to take on Zaitsev and his salary.
the next point is for 1 yr this will solidify the d-men even if its on the rhd position.
lastly in the future, trade bait.
so here is my question, who is the better Zaitsev or Murph ??
the second point is how much is it worth to Tor to do this salary dump, as i mention in the org post. Tor wants to ease their cap and well they will need to pony up for a team to take on Zaitsev and his salary.
the next point is for 1 yr this will solidify the d-men even if its on the rhd position.
lastly in the future, trade bait.
so here is my question, who is the better Zaitsev or Murph ??
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Report: Leafs' Kapanen, Kadri, Brown drawing most interest in trade talks
Gotta assune Stan is one of the GMs poking around that.
Gotta assune Stan is one of the GMs poking around that.
pvr
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Stan should be looking to make the kind of trade he was forced to make every year the Hawks were cap-strapped. Take Toronto to the woodshed!
bwana63
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Blackhawkswincup
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If Kings are truly rebuilding I wonder if they would make Doughty available?
Maybe offer them a Jokiharju , Perlini , Kayumov , 2020 1st and 2021 1st and see what they think. I love Joker but to land a 29 yr old Norris winner signed longterm it would be worth it. Not sure Kings would view that as enough futures and I was looking at our forward group to see if I could throw someone in there but well we are pretty thin for impact talent up front with our youth on NHL roster in Debrincat , Strome and Kahun
Add Doughty as our big OMG splash move and then Draft Byram
In a year or two
Byram-Doughty
Keith-Boqvist
Beaudin-Murphy
Seabrook bought out and then Murphy departs as UFA when his contract is up and Keith when he retires has Beaudin hopefully slot into 2nd pairing
For this coming season
Keith-Doughty
Byram-Murphy (I think Byram can step into NHL role this coming year)
Gus-KFC (If you can move Gus for 1st you do it and then sign Forsling to a prove it deal and slot him on 3rd pair)
Spare parts
I know ,, Its all not going to happen but until this SCF is over we wont see much activity around league and thus me and countless others will just do even more Capfriendly scenario's
Maybe offer them a Jokiharju , Perlini , Kayumov , 2020 1st and 2021 1st and see what they think. I love Joker but to land a 29 yr old Norris winner signed longterm it would be worth it. Not sure Kings would view that as enough futures and I was looking at our forward group to see if I could throw someone in there but well we are pretty thin for impact talent up front with our youth on NHL roster in Debrincat , Strome and Kahun
Add Doughty as our big OMG splash move and then Draft Byram
In a year or two
Byram-Doughty
Keith-Boqvist
Beaudin-Murphy
Seabrook bought out and then Murphy departs as UFA when his contract is up and Keith when he retires has Beaudin hopefully slot into 2nd pairing
For this coming season
Keith-Doughty
Byram-Murphy (I think Byram can step into NHL role this coming year)
Gus-KFC (If you can move Gus for 1st you do it and then sign Forsling to a prove it deal and slot him on 3rd pair)
Spare parts
I know ,, Its all not going to happen but until this SCF is over we wont see much activity around league and thus me and countless others will just do even more Capfriendly scenario's
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Toews2Bickell
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No way I pay that for Doughty. Rather pay EK and keep the other assets if we’re looking to gamble
Blackhawkswincup
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EK is falling apart
Doughty is a douchebag but only 29 and will have many good years ahead
He is also a far better defender then EK
Rather go after big fish and give up a lot of assets then trade assets for overrated , soon to be overpaid and always injured Trouba or signing EK as FA
If you want major upgrade on D this offseason you will need to spend assets via trade to get it
Doughty is a douchebag but only 29 and will have many good years ahead
He is also a far better defender then EK
Rather go after big fish and give up a lot of assets then trade assets for overrated , soon to be overpaid and always injured Trouba or signing EK as FA
If you want major upgrade on D this offseason you will need to spend assets via trade to get it
Toews2Bickell
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I’m with you on Trouba and EK. Just saying between the two options I prefer keeping the picks/HJ, signing EK and using that to acquire a comparable forward. HJ and one 1st and it becomes more appealing
bwana63
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Kapanen & Horton for Gus+? What would be the +? Gus' peanuts salary is a huge plus, but his looming UFA status is a major negative. What will Kapanen's next contract look like?
As much as the Donkey Kong line tickles me, I think Cat-Strome-Kapanen could be dynamite.
As much as the Donkey Kong line tickles me, I think Cat-Strome-Kapanen could be dynamite.
Kevin Musto
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Seriously. 60 point defensemen > 44 point wingers AINEC, even with the age difference.
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